Anyone know anything about these post war German Walther P1/P38? -- 9mm. I can pick a couple up for $229.95 each. These were made in Germany by Walther. They are rated in excellent condition with 2 mags and a holsters (each.) Don't really need the guns but they look kind of neat.
(http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/walp1.jpg)
Thanks
Olds
What no one know anything about this pistol?
I have shot one once. Nice gun. The one I tried was selling for $375.00 and that was about 8 years ago.
Quote from: Oldman on October 18, 2007, 01:02:34 PM
What no one know anything about this pistol?
The only thing I know about it is that it sends out a piece of lead faster than I can run, so I try not to get in front of them. ;D
I think they go "BANG" or something like that. :o :D Just kidding.
Found out this on them Old's.
The P38 concept was accepted by the military in 1938 but production of actual prototype ("Test") pistols did not start until late 1939. Walther began manufacture at their plant in Zella-Mehlis and produced three series of "Test" pistols, designated by a "0" prefix to the serial number. The third series satisfied the previous problems and production for the Heer (German Army) began in mid-1940, using Walther's military production identification code "480". After a few thousand pistols the Heer changed all codes from numbers to letters and Walther was given the "ac" code. All production was performed at the Walther plant until mid- to late 1942 when additional production began at the Mauser plant in Oberndorf (code "byf" until early 1945, then "svw") and at the Spreewerk plant in Hradek and Nisou, Czechoslovakia ("cyq"). Production continued until the end of the war and into the post war period. The early Walthers, until late 1941, were made to almost commercial standards of fit and polish. As the pressures of war required increased production the exterior finish declined but the operating components of the P38 remained remarkably well-made throughout the war, especially at Mauser.
Three firms made components for P38 production:
Fabrique Nationale-- slides, frames and locking blocks (M or M1)
Ceska Zbrojovka, CZ (Böhmische Waffenfabrik)-- barrels (fnh)
Erste Nordböhmische Metallwarenfabrik -- magazines (jvd)
The French manufactured P38 pistols from captured parts at the Mauser factory from May or June of 1945 until 1946. These are identifiable by the presence of a five-pointed star stamped on the slide. Total German production is estimated at more than 1,200,000 pistols. Production of the P38 resumed at a new Walther factory in Ulm, West Germany under the name Pistole 1 (P1) in 1958 for West German Police and the Bundeswehr. It remained in Walther production, in several revised iterations, until the early 1990s.
[edit] Design
The P38 was the first locked-breech pistol to use a double-action trigger. The shooter could load a round into the chamber, use the de-cocking lever to safely lower the hammer without firing the round, and carry the weapon loaded with the hammer down. A pull of the trigger, with the hammer down, fired the first shot and the operation of the pistol ejected the fired round and reloaded a fresh round into the chamber, all features found in many modern day handguns.
The first designs submitted to the German Army featured a locked breech and a hidden hammer, but the German Army requested that it be redesigned with an external hammer. This led to the subsequent adoption of the P38 in 1940. Several experimental versions were later created in .45 ACP, and .38 Super, but these were never mass-produced. In addition to the 9mm Parabellum version, some 7.65 mm Parabellum versions were also created and sold.
The breech-locking mechanism operates by use of a wedge-shaped locking block underneath the breech. When fired both the barrel and slide recoil for a short distance, where the locking block drives down, disengaging the sliding and arresting the movement of the barrel.
The P38 uses a double action trigger design similar to the earlier Walther PPKs, and a loaded chamber indicator is also incorporated.[1]
[edit] Variants
A slightly modified version of the P38 called the P1 was adopted by the Bundeswehr in 1957. The P1 had a receiver made of aluminum alloy, instead of steel. There was also a short-barreled version of the P1 called the P4.
An improved version of the P38, the Walther P5, was developed after the war, and was adopted by the police forces of Rhineland-Palatinate and Baden-Württemberg.
[edit] Bibliography
The Walther P38 Explained by Gerard HENROTIN (H&L Publishing - HLebooks.com 2005)
Hope that helps out.
W O W ! ! ! ! ! !
How's that for some background.
Duoble WOW! for me.
Triple WOW!
Can you repeat that please. I think that there was some interference.
olds...
i prefer the guns that boil their innards to the point where all is left is a puddle of lard...
however...
that walther unit routinely goes for $200 to $250 each as described...
reliable units...
crazy aint it...
owrstrich
Thanks for the infor all.... (What Iceman? You got to much time on your hands ~~ LOL!)
Quote from: Oldman on October 19, 2007, 08:24:38 AM
Thanks for the infor all.... (What Iceman? You got to much time on your hands ~~ LOL!)
:D :D :D Stuck up on the north slope till Sunday and bored as all get out. Trying to get to Wasilla to send some sauce down to owrstritch. Hang in there, it's coming soon O. ;)