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Title: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Duster on November 04, 2007, 04:25:05 AM
Just wondering, Has anybody ever tried the smoked thanksgiving turkey recipe on Bradley's site?

Smoked Thanksgiving Turkey
Ingredients
• 4 to 5 kg (8 to 10 lb) turkey (small turkeys work best)
• 65 ml (1/4 c) brown sugar
• 65 ml (1/4 c) non-iodized salt
• Cream sherry
• 5 ml (1 tsp) of garlic powder, onion powder, paprika, thyme, sage, lemon zest and/or pepper to individual taste
Preparation
Mix together brown sugar, salt and rosemary and add cream sherry to make a thin paste. Brush paste in between meat and skin and on top of the skin. Season with other herbs to taste.
Smoking Method
Preheat the Bradley Smoker to approximately 100°C (220°F). Using Pecan flavor bisquettes smoke/cook turkey for 2 to 4 hours depending on how strong a smoke flavor you want. Baste the turkey using juices from inside the cavity and continue cooking the bird, basting every hour for another 2 to 4 hours, until a meat thermometer reads 75°C (165°F).
To Serve
Carve up turkey and serve as part of a traditional Thanksgiving feast with stuffing, gravy, cranberry chutney, potatoes, Brussels sprouts and yams. Bradley Smoked Acorn Squash would also work well with this menu. And do not forget the apple and pumpkin pies!


This seams to be a very simple recipe and I was wondering if the bird drys out or in general how well it is. I have a large family coming to dinner over thanksgiving (as usual) and wanted to try this unless anybody has any better ideas. Also it calls for 4 to 5 kg (8 to 10 lb) turkey (small turkeys work best) do you think I can get by with putting two into my OBS at the same time?
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Wildcat on November 04, 2007, 08:23:48 AM
I have not tried it.  I have done boneless, skinless turkey breast in the BS though.  I coat with olive oil, salt and pepper, then smoke/cook until done.  Really nice results.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: West Coast Kansan on November 04, 2007, 10:39:12 AM
Will be doing the smoked and deep fried variety this year.  The method has been posted here before and it is on the card for some of the apple pucks. Sounds pretty interesting.  Last year was my first deep fryed turkey so need to add something different this year.  ;D

My son did his with the trash can method last year and his wifes family family asked for a repeat performance. Not sure if it was the turkey or the fun / novelty.  ;D
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Scotty-G on November 04, 2007, 10:01:08 PM
Been deep frying turkey for the past several years.  Last year did a cold smoke and then a fry.  Got pretty good results.  This year am thinking about straight smoke.  Was thinking about soaking in a brine before slathering with marinade rub and smoking - planning on a mix of cherry and pecan wood.

Might try a trail run within the next 2 weeks, using turkey parts to see if it's worth attempthing for the big feast.

Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: LilSmoker on November 05, 2007, 01:28:25 AM
I've done lot's of turkey in the BS, coz it always turns out great, and everybody that visits seems to love it! (http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s62/Gitster59/Big-Thumbs-Up.gif)

I've done turkeys up to 12lb in weight, but the smaller ones are easier, much of the time i'll do the crown/breasts as they are even easier.

I keep the brine simple, as i brine more for moisture more than anything else.

I fill a container with the right ammount of water needed, keep adding salt until an egg will float in the solution, then i add required ammount of sugar, maybe some lemon juice, and if i'm feeling adventurous i'll add some white wine  ;D

You can add other herbs/spices garlic, salt, pepper, anything really, but i like to keep it simple.

I leave the turkey in the brine for at least 1 hour per lb, once the brinning is done, remove the turkey, pat it dry with some kitchen towel, and leave for around an hour to dry further and get up to room temp.
Into the the preheated BS and smoke at 200-220F until the IT is 175F.

Once turkey is done, let the meat rest before carving, or you can now put it in the oven at a higher heat, just long enough to crisp the skin.

I don't have a turkey fryer, but they sound very usefull (http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s62/Gitster59/Big-Thumbs-Up.gif)

Anyway that's a simple method i use for turkey, very easy, and always pleases everybody  ;)

LilSmoker (http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s62/Gitster59/Tip-Hat.gif)

Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 05, 2007, 02:27:13 AM
I do basically the same as LilSmoker. If you brine the turkey or use a self-basting turkey such as Butterball you won't have to keep opening the cabinet and basting. My turkeys are always moist. The Skin is another issue, so I generally take them out of the smoker when the turkey get to about 150°F-155°F measured at the thigh; generously rub the skin with butter and place in a preheated 350°F oven at the lowest level. Continue to roast until the internal temperature is 165°F (I generally take it out at 160°F, and it will continue to rise in temperature while it is resting). Also I only use 2:40 to 3 hours of smoke, using apple or maple.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: msu-smoker on November 05, 2007, 07:29:39 AM
I smoked my first turkey yesterday and it was a hit.  I bought an 11 lb turkey that was enhanced (no fresh turkeys available in my area).  Since it was enhanced, I did not brine it.  I injected it with a cider beer, garlic oil and paprika mixture.  I also created a paste of salt, pepper, garlic, and garlic oil and rub it under the skin of the turkey.

Smoked it at 210 until it reached 165 in the breast, then let sit for about 45 min.  I am not a huge turkey fan, but everyone at the house seemed to really enjoy it and all agreed it is much better than the traditional roasted turkey.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: sherlock on November 05, 2007, 10:27:43 AM
when the turkey get to about 150°F-155°F measured at the thigh;


Just where in the thigh do you place the probe?
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 05, 2007, 01:47:28 PM
Place the probe in the thickest part of the inner thigh, and make sure the probe does not touch the bone.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Duster on November 05, 2007, 06:36:19 PM
Thanks guys, sounds like all good advice
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Duster on November 06, 2007, 02:36:58 PM
Just one more question guys, I know that cooking times very quit a bit do to ambient air temps, tower temps, wind, and how many beers I feel like drinking  ;) but can anyone tell me about an approx time? I bought 2 birds, both just under 10 lbs. I plan on brining them and will probably pull them out of the OBS at about 160 F and finish them under a broiler to crisp the skin. But how long will they take to finish and is it possible to FTC turkeys? This always works well for time management for butts but I have not tried it on poultry.

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/dustinnabinger/carvingturkey.gif)
Can't wait !!!
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: West Coast Kansan on November 06, 2007, 09:47:04 PM
The FTC on turkey will cause the skin to go soft again. 

No idea really on the time but the moisture will slow it down some as well as the load - even to 150 - 155F. 

Others will have a better idea. Interested in hearing the answers to this one.

You may want to finish one in the oven or put both in the oven when smoke is finished.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 07, 2007, 02:22:56 AM
I don't give times, it too difficult to estimate, because of all the variables and how long it takes each individual smoker to get up to the temperature you want to smoke/cook at. I've never done two 10 pound turkeys, I've only smoked one 10-12 pounder at a time. I have smoked 4 chickens weighing 4-5 pounds a piece, and will never do that again. It took way too long for the smoker to get up to my set cabinet temperature. But that is comparing apples to oranges, because 4 chickens will have more skin then two 10 pound turkeys.

So you don't get disappointed on the day you want to smoke; if you have a 4 shelf smoker you may want to make sure that you can fit two 10 pounders in the cabinet. I'm with WCK about not FTCing poultry. If timing is critical, then I would take them out after the smoke has been applied, and finish them off in an oven or grill.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: LilSmoker on November 07, 2007, 01:57:47 PM
Last time i did a whole turkey (9lb) it took around 6 hours if i remember rightly?

The turkey was the only thing smoking at the time, so if you do 2 together, the time will be significantly longer.

I also never FTC poultry, as the skin goes like an inner tube!  ;D
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Duster on November 07, 2007, 04:01:19 PM
QuoteSo you don't get disappointed on the day you want to smoke; if you have a 4 shelf smoker you may want to make sure that you can fit two 10 pounders in the cabinet.


Come on Hab don't scare me like that.


(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/dustinnabinger/Things%20in%20the%20skoker/THEYFIT.jpg)

They Fit


Thanks Lilsmoker with that being said I think I'll allow about 10 to 11 hours
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Ontrack on November 07, 2007, 05:01:20 PM
Looks like it's gonna be a heckuva feast at Duster's in a couple of weeks...By the way, Duster, looking at your drip pan-it's different than mine-is that a modification or just an optical illusion?
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Stickbowcrafter on November 07, 2007, 06:12:09 PM
Keep us posted...and don't forget the pics!!!  ;D

-Brian
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 08, 2007, 02:03:01 AM
Glad they fit. I generally smoke 12 pounders, and only do one at a time. I just didn't seem that they would fit.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: begolf25 on November 08, 2007, 05:23:03 AM
Duster,

I have never tried smoking them with the packaging on before, let me know how that turns out!  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: iceman on November 08, 2007, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: begolf25 on November 08, 2007, 05:23:03 AM
Duster,

I have never tried smoking them with the packaging on before, let me know how that turns out!  ;D ;D ;D



Geez, don't ya know that's how ya keep the moisture in!!! ::) :o :D
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Duster on November 08, 2007, 01:01:04 PM
Don't worry guys that packaging will crisp right up in the broiler ;D.......You guys are too funny.
QuoteDuster, looking at your drip pan-it's different than mine-is that a modification or just an optical illusion?

Ontrack, it's OEM, The only mods there are the fieldstone to help hold heat. I have seen several different looking pans on here and have often wondered the same. My OBS was new this past summer so maybe Bradly made some changes  ???
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Malc on November 08, 2007, 01:45:49 PM
What is the biggest turkey anyone has ever done in the Bradley?
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: iceman on November 08, 2007, 01:58:17 PM
Quote from: Malc on November 08, 2007, 01:45:49 PM
What is the biggest turkey anyone has ever done in the Bradley?
Ann said I was the biggest turkey she's ever seen get "done in" next to the Bradley.  ;D :D ;)
Seriously though 16 pounder but it got finished in the deep fryer after 4 hours of smoke.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 08, 2007, 02:01:03 PM
I once smoked a 14 pound turkey, because someone else on this forum smoked one that size. I had to see how it would fit. It was a tight fit, but I think I could have gone about 2 pounds larger.

Iceman;
We must thing alike.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: iceman on November 08, 2007, 02:08:21 PM
Yeppers Hab. Had to fiddle around with it to get it to fit. Not anything I'm going to try again soon. If the birds are that big again they will go in the big smoker.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Malc on November 08, 2007, 03:52:36 PM
Quote from: iceman on November 08, 2007, 01:58:17 PM
Quote from: Malc on November 08, 2007, 01:45:49 PM
What is the biggest turkey anyone has ever done in the Bradley?
Ann said I was the biggest turkey she's ever seen get "done in" next to the Bradley.  ;D :D ;)
Seriously though 16 pounder but it got finished in the deep fryer after 4 hours of smoke.
Nice.  ;D That is about what I figured
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: LilSmoker on November 09, 2007, 10:35:07 AM
I thought similar to Habs, the biggest whole turkey i've done in the BS was 13lb, and it went in ok, and i remember looking at it thinking a 16lb bird should fit.

Usually at Chritmas we get a 24-26lb turkey, i'd love to be able to smoke one that size, after a good brinning etc, you're lucky Pat having those lovely big smokers, and that fantastic workshop (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Respect/respect-060.gif) (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Respect/respect-061.gif)

Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: iceman on November 09, 2007, 11:31:01 AM
Quote from: LilSmoker on November 09, 2007, 10:35:07 AM
you're lucky Pat having those lovely big smokers, and that fantastic workshop (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Respect/respect-060.gif) (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Respect/respect-061.gif)
Thanks for the compliment LS.
I'm still amazed the boss lady let me get all the goodies for my shop.
I asked her why once and she just smiled and said it keeps me out of the bars and away from loose woman. ::) :D ;D ;)
(I think it's because of all the good food coming out of the smokers I build) ;D
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Duster on November 22, 2007, 07:57:22 AM
Well y'all, Sorry for my absents lately, They shifted me to the office at work witch I thought would be a good thing (and still might be when I get settled in) but not getting home to dark is eating up a lot of my personal time.
Any way as a follow up, the turkeys are brined and in the smoker as of midnight last night. They smell so good now and I'm finding myself wanting to open the door and sneak a bite but meat temp is currently 135 so I'd better wait. hopefully some pics are soon to come. Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Duster on November 22, 2007, 12:48:57 PM
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/dustinnabinger/Things%20in%20the%20skoker/11-22-07_1452.jpg)

20 min later
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/dustinnabinger/Things%20in%20the%20skoker/11-22-07_1543.jpg)
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Gizmo on November 22, 2007, 07:33:13 PM
Duster,
That was some fast moving turkey to blurr out on yah.  Time to ask the Mrs. for a new faster camera with super stop motion so you can really capture the action.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 23, 2007, 04:34:24 AM
Duster;
What was the total time in the smoker?
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Duster on November 24, 2007, 05:25:49 AM
I here ya giz those camera phones arnt the best quality, sorry.
Habb they were in the smoker for about 13 hours. I had a lot of things staked against me though, I kept the vent open all the way to try to dry out the skin, It was only about 20 degrees outside, and I had the Bradly running off an extension cord witch it handled it but I know that it's not ideal.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 25, 2007, 05:33:25 AM
After awhile you can start to close the vent, when most of the moisture had dissipated. It's hard to explain, but once you do it a couple of times you will know when you can start to close the vent. Hold your hand over the vent, and you can tell the difference in how much moisture is still in the hot air.
Title: Re: Thanksgiving Turkey
Post by: Malc on November 26, 2007, 10:25:12 AM
  I ended up doing two 13lb. turkeys.  I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't think I could have fit anything bigger than that in there laid breast side up on the racks.  It took about twelve hours in the smoker.  I wasn't in any hurry thank God.  I did pop them in the oven for a bit to crisp the skin, so I guess more like 11.5 hours in the smoker.  I actually smoked them for three hours and used cherry for the first time.  Very nice flavor on poultry. 
  No idea what the box temp was.  I kept the slider pretty much all the way over.  My calibrated door thermometer was no help.  I couldn't find an arrangement that didn't involve the thermometer jabbing the bird.  I just monitored the internal temp and kept rotating the racks every few hours.  It was kind of fun actually.  Early I was worried I would poison everybody, but of course that didn't happen.  It was enjoyed by all. ;D