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Smoking Techniques => Hot Smoking and Barbecuing => Topic started by: Mr Walleye on January 20, 2008, 08:03:49 PM

Title: My First Sausage
Post by: Mr Walleye on January 20, 2008, 08:03:49 PM
I finally jumped in and made 15 lbs of Smoked Polish Sausage (Kielbasa) from "Great Sausage Recipes and Meat Curing". I added a little Cayenne to it other than that I pretty much just followed the recipe. All I can say is "Holy Crap"... What the he11 took me so long to try making sausage!

I bought a 1 HP Cabelas grinder and man does this puppy eat meat! I ground this 15 lbs in well under 2 minutes!

Anyway here's a few pictures.....

Mike



(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/mmike/Fishing%20Photos/IMGP0378-s.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/mmike/Fishing%20Photos/IMGP0379-s.jpg)


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Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Arcs_n_Sparks on January 20, 2008, 08:11:27 PM
Quote from: Mr Walleye on January 20, 2008, 08:03:49 PM
All I can say is "Holy Crap"... What the he11 took me so long to try making sausage!

Probably too much time on the forum helping novices instead of stuffing sausages...    :D

I have a soft spot for kielbasa; these look great!

Sparkler
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Gizmo on January 20, 2008, 08:11:43 PM
Those look Great.

I did some beef sticks for the first time today.  Still in the smoker getting to temp.  I am still in the low budget mode as I had to use my Kitchen Aid for grinding then for stuffing.  The grinding wasn't bad but the stuffing was tiring and slow.  Some day will have to upgrade to real stuffer if I get the hang of it.  
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Mr Walleye on January 20, 2008, 08:18:01 PM
Gizmo

I have an 11 lb Cabelas stuffer on back order right now. Hopefully it shows up soon. My grinder worked ok for stuffing but definitely a 2 person job.

Beef sticks are definitely on my list. You'll have to let me know how they turn out.

Mike
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: acords on January 20, 2008, 08:27:56 PM
QuoteProbably too much time on the forum helping novices instead of stuffing sausages...   
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Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Gizmo on January 20, 2008, 08:29:11 PM
The sample on the grill was good but could have used more seasoning.  Since this was the first time, I didn't want to make adjustments until after the 1st time as the taste will change.  I had a lot of questions that I wasn't sure of going in but I just went a head and forged on.  I thought I had a great stuffing going on, especially for the first time.  Got about 2.5 feet stuffed and then heard a pop.  I stopped, cut off the tear, then continued on with a little less in the casing.  I looked back at the part that I cut off, only to discover that enventally a 1.5 foot section had split after pinch the original split end off.  I kept the rest of if fairly loose as I was on my own trying.  

I am not too sure how these will turn out taste wise but will brave the embaresment and let you know.
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: coyote on January 20, 2008, 10:55:55 PM
Looks great Mike !!! You'll like your new stuffer when it comes in. Sausage looks great  8)


Coyote
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Gizmo on January 20, 2008, 11:37:22 PM
Don't laugh.

Laid out on the rack.  Slid when I pulled out of the BS as the sides were not touching with plenty of spacing.
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/GizmoPhoto/Smoking086.jpg)

After shocking in ice water, piled high.  This was 5 lbs of chuck ground.
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/GizmoPhoto/Smoking087.jpg)
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Habanero Smoker on January 21, 2008, 02:06:57 AM
Mike;

The Kielbasa looks good. That will be my next sausage. I thought for the first time I would use the Kielbasa spice blend sold by Penzy's. I had a gift certificate so I bought something I would have never had bought with my own money.

PS
Oh well! I have to retract the above statement. I purchased the Bratwurst seasoning, so I guess that is what I will be making next.
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Mr Walleye on January 21, 2008, 09:52:12 AM
Quote from: Habanero Smoker on January 21, 2008, 02:06:57 AM
Mike;

The Kielbasa looks good. That will be my next sausage. I thought for the first time I would use the Kielbasa spice blend sold by Penzy's. I had a gift certificate so I bought something I would have never had bought with my own money.

PS
Oh well! I have to retract the above statement. I purchased the Bratwurst seasoning, so I guess that is what I will be making next.

Habs

If you are like me when I get into those stores I'm... reading this and grabing that and... next thing you know I have about 4 times what I was looking for and usually a couple of the wrong things!  ::)


Gizmo

What do you mean "don't laugh"! It looks great to me!  8)
I see you have one of those "Thermoapens". I definitely need something different for making sausage.

Mike
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Gizmo on January 21, 2008, 11:26:34 PM
The folks at work didn't shy away from the sausage and thought the taste and texture were great.  I even told them that I accidently chopped off my finger (I had them cut into 3 inch pieces) but they saw right through that.  Guess I should have put a finger nail on one end. :D
I got the best compliment from my wife.  She said it was good and better than store bought as it was not greasy.  The grease (fat) is why she doesn't like most sausages.

The Thermopen is an awesome device for the quickest and most accurate temp measure.  Knowing the actual temperature sensor is in the very tip and not located somewhere above the tip, allows for more accurate probe placement and therefore better readings.  The tip is very small so it doesn't leave as large of a hole (not that the small hole doesn't prevent the juices leaking out).  For me it doesn't replace the remote probes as I resist any reason to open the door but for the small sausages, it is tough to place a lot of confidence in a probe that is almost as big as the sausage and wondering if it ripped out of the casing and is now monitoring the cabinet. ;D

I recently bought a non contact laser thermometer as well.  it allows me to measure the surface temerature of areas.  I used it the other day to see how hot the puck burner gets for smoldering the pucks and also as a quick cabinet temperature comaparision.  I have had a few needs in the past to be able to measure suface temperatures such as in breaker pannels to detect circuit breakers that are failing which can be seen in a higher temperature.  When we first moved into our current house, I had a problem with some lights flickering and it turned out to be the main breaker had developed some carbon deposits due to age and loading.  The electrician was able to verify his suspicion by the thermal scan and when he pulled the breaker, you could see the defects and why the lights were flickering.  The Cen-Tech was on sale for half price so for 30 bucks, I just had to have another toy. 
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: bigredsmoker on January 22, 2008, 07:20:53 AM
The sausage looks great Gizmo. Someday I will venture into the sausage relm, but for now I have to get thisa smoking thing down, then I can think about sausage. I guess I now know why you are called Gizmo....Gotta love those new toys! ;D
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: drano on January 22, 2008, 06:45:59 PM
Mr Walleye,
Great looking Kielbasa!  What internal temp did you cook it to?  Is it and fully cooked, or only partially cooked?  I've been making fresh brautworst for a few years, but haven't smoked any yet.  Maybe on my next batch I'll add cure and cold smoke it for a few ours before I freeze it. 

You'll like the Cabelas 11 lb stuffer.  I've had mine for several years.  Mine has teeth all the way to the top of the ram shaft and will push the plunger all the way to the bottom of the container.  Now they machine off the teeth at the top, so I don't know if they still bottom out the plunger.  Only thing I don't like is the bottom is not flat so I can't stand it up on the counter to fill it.  So I hold it in one hand, and spoon meat in with the other.  I have a long handled solid stainless spoon from a restaurant supply store that I bent the spoon/handle juction about 90 deg so I can spoon in, then press the meat down to get most of the air out as I fill the container.  If you'd like a stuffer motor, Weston sells a reconditioned one for $138. 
http://www.westonsupply.com/Items.aspx?CAT=stuffpart (http://www.westonsupply.com/Items.aspx?CAT=stuffpart)

Gizmo
Yours looks great too!  Man, we need to start a Sausage/jerky section on this forum! :)
Go ahead and treat yourself to a dedicated stuffer.  I used the Kitchen Aid grinder to stuff casings once, then made a donation to Cabelas.  If you make small size snack sticks, you might look into the Sausage Maker brand
http://www.sausagemaker.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=26 (http://www.sausagemaker.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=26) or L.E.M..  I think they have more leverage with their 90 degree gear.  Hopefully they use high quality nylon for their gears.  Cabelas has in-line gears, and I had to crank like a mad dog to get sausage through the 10mm stuffing tube. 

Where can I find a Thermopen?  I tried a batch of snack sticks a few years back, and like you said, getting a meat thermometer into to a small casing is impossible. 

Get smokin
Drano

Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Mr Walleye on January 22, 2008, 06:54:06 PM
Drano

I took the IT to 152 degrees. I hope my stuffer arrives soon.

Here is a link to the Thermapen. I have thought about getting one but haven't loosened up the $100 yet.

http://www.thermoworks.com/products/thermapen/tpen_home.html?gclid=CLyXupari5ECFQcmgwodLR0-GA

Mike
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Gizmo on January 22, 2008, 09:22:54 PM
Mike has the post for the Pen.

Hey Drano, some of them gots Gizmos on top called motors.   Arhh Arhh Arrhh.  But they gots something I don't, 2k pricetag.  :'(
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: La Quinta on January 22, 2008, 10:19:45 PM
Giz...my man...please say those are coming to the smoke out!!!???  They look delicious!!!

PS...dry run on LOX is great...may have to bring some...in the fridge for 24 hours...oh this is gonna be fun!!! :) Prime rib...snack sticks...cold smoked salmon...oh yeAH BABE!!!
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Gizmo on January 22, 2008, 10:29:01 PM
Yup, they will and I will probably have some slim jims as well.  Looks like it will have a little more flavor.
FYI, the LSU Crawfish boil tickets are on order.  You will have a blast at this bash.  We have about 60 people in our group coming so far and all the preliminary orders aren't in. 
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: La Quinta on January 22, 2008, 10:34:51 PM
Can't wait...I am a bug head from way back!!! Thanks!! Bob's never had them...gonna be fun!!! :)
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Habanero Smoker on January 23, 2008, 05:04:35 AM
Drano;

I just read your post. I will be making about 10 lbs of bratwurst in a couple of weeks. I've never smoked any either, but will be smoking about 5 lbs of the 10 lbs batch. If you smoke yours sooner let me know how they turn out.

If you are making sausage, cooking chicken parts, Kummock's salmon, steaks or any fish the ThermaPen is a must have. I have had mine for close to 2 years, use it frequently, and still have the original battery. You will find it comes in handy to monitor the temperature of most cooking/baking projects.
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: drano on January 23, 2008, 02:42:14 PM
Habanero Smoker
It will be a few months before I make more bratwurst.
I need to get my sausage-making book out to see what kind of cure is recommended so I kill the bad stuff. 
Keep us posted on your results.
Guess I need to put that Thermapen on my Santa list--don't know if I can wait that long though . . .
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Habanero Smoker on January 24, 2008, 03:21:54 AM
If you are adding a cure to your own seasoning, the recommended cure for smoked sausage (not dried sausage) is InstaCure #1, or any of the equivalent brands. I have bratwurst seasoning, and will be adding a cure to one batch. I'll post my results on the end product, especially the taste; because the nitrite will alter the taste.

These are the calculations I've come up with base on the recommended 4 oz per 100 lbs of ground meat. I will be making 10 lbs. and plan to smoke only 5 lbs. so I will only be adding a cure to 5 lbs.

The recommended amounts of InstaCure #1, Prague Powder #1, pink salt etc (its alright to use the higher rounded off figure):
1 lb.  add      1.13 grams
5 lb.  add      5.56 grams (6 grams) or 1 teaspoon.
15 lb. add      17 grams (18 grams) or 1 tablespoon.

The calculations don't have to be exact to the 1/100th of a gram, but if any one sees a major miscalculation please let me know.
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Stickbowcrafter on January 26, 2008, 05:01:11 AM
Very nice product Mike...WOW. Been wondering when you were going to post that "first". Looks perfect!

-Brian
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Mr Walleye on January 26, 2008, 08:16:15 AM
Brian

With all your fine sausage posts I.... well.... I bit, hook line and sinker!  :D

I still haven't got my stuffer but I've got lots of sausage planned.

Mike
Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: SmokinHotMama on January 28, 2008, 12:14:18 PM
Hey there Mr. Walleye...  How about that grinder...  Now that is "man's man" grinder, huh?  There is no messing around with that thing...  The sausage looks awesome!  How was it!  See, I knew that if we could do it, you would have no problems at all....  WTG!  I think SmokinHotPapa just bought that same book?  Is that "The Sausage Bible"?   He can't wait to get it!  Are you lovin' it?

Title: Re: My First Sausage
Post by: Mr Walleye on January 28, 2008, 05:28:37 PM
Mama

That grinder is one meat hungry hog! Hey... how can you argue that! I can't believe how fast that puppy is.

The sausage turned out really good. Next time I will add a little more cayenne to it. I kinda like the hot stuff. Papa's going to love that book. It certainly taught me lots, plus many ideas in it. Once you read it you'll see why every body refers to as the "Bible"

I can't decide on what's next... either summer sausage or beef sticks.... maybe both!  ;)

Mike