Hi all,
I just did spare ribs tonight, 8 hrs total, 4 hrs smoke with a dry rub and they were fantastic and fall off the bone. The spare ribs seemed a bit better than the baby back ones I have done. What is the big difference between these two cuts, and do most have a preference when picking between the two?
Thanks
Baby backs come from the loin area of the pig. They are smaller, leaner and more expensive. They are well trimmed and other than seasonings, there is not much preparation needed. Being smaller they cook faster.
Spare ribs come from the belly area. They are much larger, fattier and less expensive. Spare ribs are sold in a variety of ways, depending on how much trimming the butcher does. I like the St. Louis style ribs, because they require less trimming and preparation.
I prefer the spare ribs. I like the texture (more chewy), and more meaty.
Thanks Habanero, that's what I was looking for.
J.
What ingrediants or recipe did you have for the dry rub? I am thinking of doing some ribs this weekend and am looking for a good dry rub. Did you have to use any liquid on them to keep them from drying out? Thanks for the help.
jdallinger
I don't do ribs often, but when I do I use one of three rubs. I'm sure others who smoke ribs more often will respond. Also I don't spritz, but many do. One is Iceman's Rub, the other two are:
Basic Beef Rub (works well with pork)
2 Tbsp. ground black pepper
2 Tbsp. paprika
2 tsp. of brown sugar
2 tsp. chili powder
1 tsp. celery salt
1 tsp. ground cayenne pepper
1 tsp. of onion powder
1 tsp. garlic powder
1/2 tsp. mustard powder
The Renowned Mr. Brown
1/4 cup Black Pepper, fresh cracked
1/4 cup Paprika
1 /4 cup Turbinado Sugar or Brown Sugar
2 Tbsp. Salt, Kosher
2 tsp. Mustard, dry
1 tsp. Cayenne pepper
(Makes enough for one 6 - 8 lb. Boston Butt)
Also Mccormick makes a real good commercial pork rub, under it;s Grillmates brand.
I like them both, but given a choice I'll grab the babybacks.
As for rubs, it depends. Sometimes I'll massage a little olive oil and (a lot of) crushed garlic into the meat and then sprinkle with salt, pepper, and Italian seasoning. Makes a really good rib that can stand up without sauce/glaze.
Othertimes I'll mix up a mustard slather, smear it over the meat, and then sprinkle on a rub similar to those Habs posted. There are two great smoking recipe books I have. One is Smoke n Spice (which includes a Renowned Mr. Brown rub) and the other is Paul Kirk's Championship BBQ:
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(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s293/consiglieri655/Kirk.jpg)
Smoke and spice is a great book...got me interested in smoking right off!! Funny stuff in there as well...
Consigs...I like spare ribs...why babys?
Quote from: La Quinta on May 03, 2008, 01:29:46 PM
Consigs...I like spare ribs...why babys?
I like the babybacks much more than spares, but really don't know why. Unless it's because it gives me another reason to disagree with you, LQ. ;D
I would imagine so...Mr. Cranky Pants...if you bring up cold smoked cheese I will sign off and never come back...:)
Couldn't have that! My lips are sealed :-X
Did someone say cheese ::) ;D
SDuck...don't push it...I'm depressed about cold smoking cheese...very frustrating not to be able to make it in the nuclear weather environment I live in...but...on the bright side I did swim and suntan today!! Made ribs (SPARE RIBS!!) last night so...:)
Quote from: La Quinta on May 03, 2008, 01:29:46 PM
Smoke and spice is a great book...got me interested in smoking right off!! Funny stuff in there as well...
Consigs...I like spare ribs...why babys?
I'm like ontrack: I just do. Some of the preference is linked to ease: the membrane is easier to remove and you can save a couple of hours of cooking time. Plus, I like the meat a bit better. Believe me, I won't turn my back on any rib, especially those bones carved away from the prime rib. That Kirk book has about 20 or so rib recipes, some that are pretty exotic (and some that I'll probably never try). There is one in the book that I keep coming back to: a Mustard BBQ(which doesn't taste too mustardy)
3 slabs ribs, membrane removed
9 smashed cloves of garlic
2 T kosher salt
1T fresh ground pepper
2 cups apple juice
1 cup firmly packed light brown sugar
1/2 cup grainy mustard (like stone ground Sierra Nevada)
1/4 cup cider vinegar
1/4 cup molasses
2T dry mustard
1 T dark rum (I use Meyers and spill some into some Orange juice too)
Rub the garlic into both sides of the ribs and season with s & p and then place in your pit.
The rest of the ingredients are for the glaze. Combine them in a medium sauce pan and simmer, stirring occassionally for 10 to 15 minutes. Do not turn your back on the sauce because it is prone to foaming over. About 60 minutes before the ribs are done brush some of the warm glaze onto both sides and repeat about 30 minutes later.
Hey I read a bit about your cold smoke attempt. Some thoughts: did you use the "offset" cardboard box method? (see here http://www.johnwatkins.co.uk/personalpages/coldsmoking.htm ). Also, you can put a high walled aluminum foil pan filled with ice at bottom rack level, with the cheese and stuff above it.
The problem now Consigs...is even with an offset box...the temp in the tower is well above 80/90 just sitting there...many times goes to 150 just hangin' out. I guess I missed the window of time that would allow me the ability to do it. My own stupid fault...to hung up on cold smoked salmon I guess...made a lot of that!!...good news...there is always next year!! :) Or one of the lovely peeps here on the forum can sent me some freakin smoked cheese!!! :) (Just kiddin').
I have pepper jack, provolone, mozz, sharp cheddar, swiss, and colby jack. Take your pick, send me your address, and its yours. Now call me "Mr. Cranky Pants". :D
Nah..you eat it OnT...too cranky for me...afraid...
Hey LQ, is your garage air-conditioned? I know if I had a garage and I lived in the heat that you lived in, it'd be air-conditioned only cause that's where the wife sends me when I've been bad. But, a cool garage may help you smoke some cheese. You could run a hose from the vent out of a window or something so the smell wouldn't be so overpowering.
OR
You can come visit me and my family and you can smoke cheese till it hurts and fly back with 3 extra pieces of luggage filled with cheese. Course, you'd want to make them carry-on bags. No telling how much cheese would be confiscated by the TSA.
The offer is valid any time you so desire! :)
Thanks SDuck....may take you up on that some day!! Garage is not Ac'd...wish it was...geezzz I built these homes...shouda thought of that!! Power bills would be major league tho..if it were ac'd I could send cranky boy cheese!!
I suspect if the garage was AC'd the only way we'd hear from you is if you had wireless in there as well. I fear that if the garage was AC'd your husband would be a cold smoke widower by now ;D.
Seriously, though, if ever you're in the area, mi casa es su casa (and that goes out to anyone in the forum). Got plenty of room in this house and what could be more boring staying in a hotel with no one to talk or smoke with.
Hey SDuck...my hubby is still alive and kickin!!! (Thank God no air in the garage I guess!!) And I do have a wireless...but I'd like to keep him around a while...he makes a mean Indian curry!! :) I'm off to Florida (on Friday) to surprise Mom for Mother's Day so he can do whatever he wants for a week...(he seems excited about that prospect!!) Go figure? :)
Is Mother's Day coming up? ??? :o :-[
Uh...yeah...Sunday...make her breakfast in bed...we love that!! :)
Quote from: La Quinta on May 05, 2008, 05:07:32 PM
Uh...yeah...Sunday...make her breakfast in bed...we love that!! :)
My Mom? Ewwwwwwwwww, that just ain't right. I let her get dressed before I bring her any food.
I meant your wife...geezz...ya know...the mother of your children...then take your Mom to brunch...
LQ: you certainly add a little Venus perspective to our discussions. Us Mars guys, well... we just don't get it unless it hits us in the head.
But thanks for the tip. Me and a few of the other guys are going to serve Duck's mother her breakfast in bed. ;D (Big joke, paisan ;))
Have at her, boys. I'm sure she'd appreciate that. No need to worry Consig. I'd never take any offense from anyone here on the board, and especially not from a paisan ;)
LQ, my wife? Ewwwwwwwwwwwww, that just ain't right. I let her get dressed before I bring her any food ;D