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Title: rack spacers ?
Post by: FLBentRider on May 06, 2008, 01:02:36 PM
When smoking product that is in thickness, like Almonds or Jerky, It has occurred to me that if I could make some kind of a spacer to sit on the edge of the rack, I could stack another rack on top and still allow room for smoke to circulate. Currently, I am inverting one rack on another to get 8 racks in a 4 rack OBS. If I could make a metal frame the same size as the rack and about an inch or so thick, I could probably get 16 racks in the OBS, as well as my convection oven ( I smoke the jerky in the OBS, then dry in the Convection oven) .

Has anyone made anything like that ?

I would assume that metal would be preferred over wood, since most commercial wood would not be viable, since there may be chemicals and / or sap that they are treated with that would not taste good. Maybe I can find a solid hickory 1x1.

Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: Tiny Tim on May 06, 2008, 01:35:43 PM
Better go with a 1x3 instead...the 1x1 will only get you to the top of the inverted rack, and a 1x2 would only go high enough for the bottom of rack 3 to touch the top of rack 2.  Not sure if you'd be able to slip a 4th rack in each postition that way or not.
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: Habanero Smoker on May 06, 2008, 02:04:51 PM
I believe Mike used hard wood spacers. Stores like Lowes and Home Depot sell a few hard woods, such as 3/4 maple and oak.
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: Gizmo on May 06, 2008, 02:06:02 PM
The Mr. Walleye setup is what you are looking for.  
http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=6130.0 (http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=6130.0)

The only thing that could be added is to put a stiff jerky screen between the two inverted racks which would add 1 more set of meat.
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: FLBentRider on May 06, 2008, 03:19:58 PM
That is kinda what I was thinking.... My idea actually had all the racks "right side" up, but there would need to be a spacer between each rack instead of every other rack. It would probably be too dense for jerky but for Almonds it would be perfect. I will put the 1x6 on my Lowes list.
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: Tiny Tim on May 07, 2008, 07:06:14 AM
Guess I didn't think of it that way...1x1 would be fine then. 








Man, I gotta quit tunnel visioning some stuff. :P :P
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: Toker on May 20, 2008, 08:13:48 AM
Was just wondering up to what degree can we use wood inside the smoker without fire danger?
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: aha638 on May 20, 2008, 08:29:32 AM
Wood "flash points" are from about 550º to 800º depending on the wood type.

Al
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: Toker on May 20, 2008, 08:43:47 AM
Is this the same for plywood i have alot of 3/4 plywood here maybe i could use it do like on the picture? Always been for fire incident.
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: FLBentRider on May 20, 2008, 08:46:16 AM
I would stick with hardwood, like Oak or Hickory - something you would smoke with - and UNTREATED. Treated wood will give off vapors that will make you sick - I am not sure at what temperature that occurs - but I would not take any chances.
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: NePaSmoKer on May 21, 2008, 05:50:05 PM
Quote from: toker1313 on May 20, 2008, 08:43:47 AM
Is this the same for plywood i have alot of 3/4 plywood here maybe i could use it do like on the picture? Always been for fire incident.

dont think i would use any type of plywood cuz of the glue being in it.

nepas
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: Kummok on May 22, 2008, 10:21:45 AM
Quote from: toker1313 on May 20, 2008, 08:13:48 AM
Was just wondering up to what degree can we use wood inside the smoker without fire danger?

Recognizing that many smokers are actually made from wood, (you can even smoke in a cardboard box without burning it down if you do it right!), I wouldn't confuse still standing wooden smokers with using wood in the enclosed Bradley smokers. For the purposes of your question, it is important to know that wood exposed to heat over time will go through a process called "pyrolysis". Simply put, the temperature at which the wood will ignite from a heat source (e.g the heating "tube" and/or puck burner in the Bradleys), is continually lowered until it can actually reach its autoignition point, (ignite itself) at significantly lower temps.
The sage wisdom of my father-in-law always echos in my ears when dealing with questions like this. As a retired  Alaskan bush pilot with over 35k hours and still alive/flying (for pleasure only these days), his motto dealing with "marginal flying conditions" was "Never think you can....Know you can or else go around/sit out the weather!".  LOTS of variables in the "wood in the smoker" scenario but the best advice I can give you is to stay away from any wood in your Bradley smoker that you don't want smoking. You might get away with it for a loooong time, but why risk it  when you can get/make spacers of non-combustible material.
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: Wildcat on May 22, 2008, 11:42:27 AM
Bravo Kummok!  ;)
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: FLBentRider on May 22, 2008, 11:43:01 AM
Quote from: Kummok on May 22, 2008, 10:21:45 AM
the best advice I can give you is to stay away from any wood in your Bradley smoker that you don't want smoking. You might get away with it for a loooong time, but why risk it  when you can get/make spacers of non-combustible material.


Sage advice. Now where did I put that titanium bar stock...  ;D
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: Toker on May 22, 2008, 11:51:38 AM
So what material do you suggest me to use instead of wood?
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: Tiny Tim on May 22, 2008, 12:27:09 PM
I'd stay with aluminum or stainless......
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Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: Kummok on May 22, 2008, 12:59:47 PM
Quote from: toker1313 on May 22, 2008, 11:51:38 AM
So what material do you suggest me to use instead of wood?

Something "non-combustible", like aluminum would be my choice. I've got several 8' sections of 1" channel that would work great and I'd be glad to give you enough to use for 4-6 racks.....but it's local pickup only!  ;)
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: Mr Walleye on May 22, 2008, 03:06:59 PM
I certianly can't argue with you on that Kummok.

I know in the insurance industry wood stoves are a major issue here in Canada for the exact same reason. Having said that I will probably be changing mine to alluminum.

Mike
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: huhwhatliar on May 22, 2008, 03:15:11 PM
Quote from: Kummok on May 22, 2008, 12:59:47 PM
Quote from: toker1313 on May 22, 2008, 11:51:38 AM
So what material do you suggest me to use instead of wood?

Something "non-combustible", like aluminum would be my choice. I've got several 8' sections of 1" channel that would work great and I'd be glad to give you enough to use for 4-6 racks.....but it's local pickup only!  ;)

Is there a time limit on the local pickup only  :D

Domenick
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: Kummok on May 22, 2008, 04:50:07 PM
Quote from: huhwhatliar on May 22, 2008, 03:15:11 PM

Is there a time limit on the local pickup only  :D

Domenick

Never....campfire's usually smoking and friends are always welcome. Come on back up and take your heart back! (So that's what that thumping sound has been?!?!?)   ;) ;D
Title: Re: rack spacers ?
Post by: huhwhatliar on May 22, 2008, 04:54:34 PM
Quote from: Kummok on May 22, 2008, 04:50:07 PM
Quote from: huhwhatliar on May 22, 2008, 03:15:11 PM

Is there a time limit on the local pickup only  :D

Domenick

Never....campfire's usually smoking and friends are always welcome. Come on back up and take your heart back! (So that's what that thumping sound has been?!?!?)   ;) ;D

I didn't think it was that loud  :D

Domenick