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Title: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: ShadyGrove on September 18, 2008, 04:22:42 PM
I just bought a Bradley Smoker from a friend of mine. Very new to it, but I have cooked on it 3-4 times. Man I love it. I am smoking sausage and 2 Boston Butts right now. I am having trouble getting the temp to go up. I have it all the way on high and it will not go above 175 degrees. It has been at 175 for the past 30-45 minutes. My wife put the meat on for me while at was work so it could have been at this temp for much longer. This is just when I noticed it. Is the element going out or is there something I have missed? Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: westexasmoker on September 18, 2008, 04:25:37 PM
When you have a pretty good size load it takes quite awhile for the temp to recover, I'm guessing thats the problem!

C
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: westexasmoker on September 18, 2008, 04:26:52 PM
And my bad, where are my manners....Welcome to the forum ShadyGrove!

C
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: FLBentRider on September 18, 2008, 05:04:57 PM
W E L C O M E  to the Forum ShadyGrove!

I assume that all the electrical connections are snug. If the temp control slider is all the way to the right, back it off just a hair. Look at the heating element in the smoker, is it glowing red ?
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: ShadyGrove on September 18, 2008, 05:09:57 PM
All lights are on. Element is glowing red. Have you heard of the temp guage going out or malfunctioning?
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: westexasmoker on September 18, 2008, 05:24:34 PM
The door temp gauge is notorious for being off, hence the need for a maverick or other thermometer.  When I do briskets it takes quite a few hours to recover to 220.  Sounds like your heat element is working fine.

C
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: FLBentRider on September 18, 2008, 05:26:01 PM
The built in temp gauge on the bradley is notoriously inacurate, although I have never seen it off by more than 10F or so.

Most of us use a Maverick ET-73 remote probe thermometer. This unit allows you to remotely monitor the smoker temp and the internal meat temp.
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: ShadyGrove on September 18, 2008, 05:53:01 PM
Thanks for the welcome. We tailgate for football games and guess who has the main course now. Just started getting a little worried. Well it finally jump up to 200-205. Can't get it passed that but the meat was at 145 internally. So something is happening. Thanks for the help. If you can think of anything else for me to check, let me know.
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: Arcs_n_Sparks on September 18, 2008, 06:09:33 PM
ShadyGrove,

Welcome to the forum. Remember, you are basically heating the Bradley with six 100 watt light bulbs. Going to take awhile to recover after the door is open or a significant load is put in. The vent also has a bearing.

Arcs_n_Sparks
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: Gizmo on September 18, 2008, 09:12:13 PM
Quote from: ShadyGrove on September 18, 2008, 05:53:01 PM
Thanks for the welcome. We tailgate for football games and guess who has the main course now. Just started getting a little worried. Well it finally jump up to 200-205. Can't get it passed that but the meat was at 145 internally. So something is happening. Thanks for the help. If you can think of anything else for me to check, let me know.

Welcome Shady,
I usually find the temp of the box will rise more quickly once the meat reaches 145 or so.  You are progressing as expected.
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: Oldman on September 18, 2008, 11:50:12 PM
Welcome to the forums....
QuoteThe door temp gauge is notorious for being off, hence the need for a maverick or other thermometer.
Believe it or not my door temp gauge is right on spot. HOWEVER, it takes it a long time to get to the true reading.
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: beefmann on September 19, 2008, 01:11:40 PM
welcome shadygrove,

with the tempture reading 175 and a larger laod of  food .. over 6 lbs it  will drop and take a  while to recover to 220 .. dont worry about it and trust the bradley ... once your  meat starts  getting close to being done it  the  gage will be at  or  near 220 ..

on another  note one item that a lot of newbies are not  use to is that the outside of the  meat  turns black...this is just the nature of  smoking.. im not talking  that the  meat  is burnt  from the fire or heat... just  from the  smoking process


beefmann
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: Curious Aardvark on October 28, 2008, 08:32:07 AM
from my experience this is normal - my bradley will just not cook at anything over 200.
I think it's down to the liquid always being present. As the temp rises the water evaporates and cools it down again.

With another smoker you could simply remove the water - with the bradley I don't know what the result would be if the bisquettes did not have a water bowl.
But as I let it go dry on the last smoke and the temp finally went up right at the end, and it all tasted fine and all I had left in the water bowl was a fine ash. I suspect you don't need the water in the bowl. The hot bisquettes would then add to the heat in the machine rather than sending up a spray of cooling steam every 20 minutes when they drop in the bowl.

Next 'play' smoke I'll try running it dry. As with the cooking temps as low as they are, it's totally useless for ribs.

I will add that the only thing it hasn't cooked well are racks of ribs - and it just wouldn't go hot enough to get decent pullback. With the result that after 6 hours I had racks of ribs that were both underdone and overcooked. Wasn't impressed lol
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: Gizmo on October 28, 2008, 10:31:48 PM
I would suggest not running the Bradley without water in the bowl.  Not only does the water extinguish the pucks, it keeps the grease dripping down from the meat from catching on fire.  I have not had a problem getting the box up higher than 200 degrees under most normal conditions.  I can get 260 degrees in the box if needed but you must realize that larger loads will absorb more heat and until the meat gets up in temperature, the overall box temperature will be lower.
On the digital units, you need to set the temperature set point higher than the temperature you wan the box to be at.  As the meat increases in temperature, the box temperature will rise, and then you can start lowering the set point.  I typicaly have mine set at 260 for probably the first 2 hours before adjusting it down.  Again, the numbers here are relative to what I have loaded and how much.  Also the outside air temperature will have some affect as will opening the door and the vent setting.  Time and experience will get you dialed in.  The great thing is the process in the Bradley is very forgiving and external adjustments to the finished product can salvage most errors in patience.   8)
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: LilSmoker on October 29, 2008, 01:09:43 AM
Yeah that's sound advice from Giz, never run the Bradley without water in the bowl  :o

In fact if yours is struggling to climb in temp, try hot water in the bowl, this will kickstart a climb in temparature. I always use hot water in the bowl, and so do lots of members here with good results  ;)

LilSmoker (http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s62/Gitster59/Tip-Hat.gif)
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: IKnowWood on November 03, 2008, 01:39:25 PM
In addition to all this great advice, I added some bricks in the smoker and let it heat up over 250 degrees over an hour before adding the meat in the smoker.  It helps to recover temps.  But also, make sure to set out the meat well before placing it in there.  The colder it is when its loaded in the smoker the longer the recovery and even longer to smoke the butts to proper temps.  And keep the water for the pucks and fat.  It does not impact that much and it does have a function. the other ideas to recover heat will be a much more substantial impact. 

As long as the bulb is glowing its cooking. 
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: beefmann on November 03, 2008, 02:18:17 PM
Know,

everything you  have  stated is correct and all good... However what I have found and works quite well .. better then expected for  me is the use of a blower and a higher wattaged finned heater... i currently run a 900 watt heater and couldent be happier even with a 25 pounds plus of meat  load and most i ever  done was 40 pounds of tritip.

With the 40 lbs of  tri tip i had a box temp of 220 before i loaded the bradley ... and  within 30 minutes of loading  it was at 210.

only  thing I can say is give this sone serious thought and the amount of load you  will be  doing. i have  found that with a PID, higher wattage  heater and  blower makes a HUGE differance... i wouldent go much higher in the  bradleys

Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: IKnowWood on November 03, 2008, 04:42:09 PM
beefman, I concur, the Mods you made to your unit have indeed optimized this art to great ends.  If I had the time and know-how to do what you did, I would. I am most jealous on what you have done. 

Lately I have not done much in the smoker.  I will next Month, I will do another big feed with three racks of Boston Butts one day and maybe another day of Brisket.  For a work party, its now expected what I hear.  Just need to get that time.

Shady, you have some great knowledge on the boards and this thread form all.  Welcome and always remember, this is fun.
Title: Re: Need Help With Bradley Smoker
Post by: beefmann on November 03, 2008, 06:11:24 PM
thanks for the complement, And i hope your gathering next month comes out better then expected and everyone enjoys... and have fun... have a brew for me