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Title: smoke beef but not cooked
Post by: bushman on September 20, 2008, 06:54:30 PM
I want to smoke steaks and other beef cuts with rub and then wrap in saran and into the fridge for the night .This will marinade deeper into the beef. I just want to add the smoke flavor and not cook until the next day. So what would be a safe lowest temp. to smoke at and not cook it too much.
Title: Re: smoke beef but not cooked
Post by: Gizmo on September 20, 2008, 07:16:36 PM
Cold smoking is considered below 100 Deg.  I wouldn't let it go above 80.  Offset the smoke gen (box and dryer duct) and leave the oven off.  The reason for the off set is the puck burner can bring a box temp up to 150 deg or more by itself.
Title: Re: smoke beef but not cooked
Post by: Consiglieri on September 20, 2008, 11:04:14 PM
Here's link showing the cold smoke set up that Giz mentions.  I haven't tried it yet cuz ambient temps have been over 80 anyway.  http://www.johnwatkins.co.uk/personalpages/coldsmoking.htm

Good luck!
Title: Re: smoke beef but not cooked
Post by: bushman on September 21, 2008, 10:07:24 AM
Is there no temp that you must be careful at with beef regarding bacteria
Title: Re: smoke beef but not cooked
Post by: maja on September 21, 2008, 10:18:37 AM
New to the art of smoking foods. looking for two suggestions:

1. receipe for a shoulder pot roast, BEEF.

2. good all around cook book.

Thanks
Title: Re: smoke beef but not cooked
Post by: westexasmoker on September 21, 2008, 11:45:40 AM
Welcome to the forum maja!

My go to cookbook is the Smoke&Spice, but quite honestly I have found this forum to be the best cookbook going!  These guys know there stuff for smoking/cooking!  Do a search on roast or hit the recipe site and you'll be good to go!  Good luck and keep us posted!

C
Title: Re: smoke beef but not cooked
Post by: bushman on September 21, 2008, 01:02:35 PM
Quote from: maja on September 21, 2008, 10:18:37 AM
New to the art of smoking foods. looking for two suggestions:

1. receipe for a shoulder pot roast, BEEF.

2. good all around cook book.

Thanks

as a newbie you need to learn not  to hijack a topic . If you have anything to ask  start your own
Title: Re: smoke beef but not cooked
Post by: westexasmoker on September 21, 2008, 01:24:39 PM
Dang bushman, easy on the new guy!  ;D

C
Title: Re: smoke beef but not cooked
Post by: Gizmo on September 21, 2008, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: bushman on September 21, 2008, 10:07:24 AM
Is there no temp that you must be careful at with beef regarding bacteria

There are a lot of resources out there on food poisoning.  Here is a link to the recipe site and some information on it.  More technical than I would care to go into.  In my opinion, you should be able to cold smoke under 80 degrees for an hour to an hour and a half without a problem.  This is typically the time you would normally have your meat out getting to room temperature (so to speak).

http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9 (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9)
http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7 (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7)
Title: Re: smoke beef but not cooked
Post by: manxman on September 22, 2008, 01:48:32 AM
QuoteIn my opinion, you should be able to cold smoke under 80 degrees for an hour to an hour and a half without a problem.

When cold smoking I always stick to <80F, you will be fine at this temp. The meat will just smoke and won't cook.  :)

You will see different recommended maximum temps quoted for cold smoking, some sites say 80F, some 90F and some 100F. I always feel safer at <80F, I have cold smoked meat and fish for up to 8 hours without a problem sticking to this cut off point.

Big problem if you live somewhere too hot to manage this..........   ::)
Title: Re: smoke beef but not cooked
Post by: La Quinta on September 23, 2008, 07:35:41 PM
Amen Manx!...bushman...if you live in a warmer climate...fill the puck bowl with ice...or/and put some ZipLoc bags of ice on the other shelves to cool the box down. Or...consider the offset idea...
Title: Re: smoke beef but not cooked
Post by: FLBentRider on September 24, 2008, 09:45:41 AM
Quote from: La Quinta on September 23, 2008, 07:35:41 PM
Amen Manx!...bushman...if you live in a warmer climate...fill the puck bowl with ice...or/and put some ZipLoc bags of ice on the other shelves to cool the box down. Or...consider the offset idea...

Does that work for you in the desert ? the ziploc idea. I think I would need the ziploc and the offset.
Title: Re: smoke beef but not cooked
Post by: La Quinta on September 24, 2008, 11:40:48 AM
Yeah FLBent it works when temps are in the low 90's...I have to do ice on every rack but the top...but nothing works when it's 110 out...so I wait!!