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Title: more help please
Post by: Up In Smoke on December 13, 2008, 02:20:57 PM
i am looking for a meat mixer, nothing really big but something that is around the 20 lb range?something that is easy to break down and clean.
i know i ask for a lot of help and one day i hope to be able to contribute, but i am still really green and a little
financially embarassed. did i spell that right?
any help is greatly appreciated.
                                          jerry
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: Father Tom on December 13, 2008, 02:28:41 PM
This is a place where we can all ask questions as no one knows it all.  The Sausage Maker web site has them as well as Cabela's.com.  Also there is a company in Texas that has all the equipment you will ever need.  I will locate their name and forwared it to you.   Something like  ???? & Packers.  Someone else will give you a lot more shortly.  Just hang in there

Tom
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: Mr Walleye on December 13, 2008, 02:30:38 PM
Quote from: smokinrookie on December 13, 2008, 02:20:57 PM
i am looking for a meat mixer, nothing really big but something that is around the 20 lb range?something that is easy to break down and clean.
i know i ask for a lot of help and one day i hope to be able to contribute, but i am still really green and a little
financially embarassed. did i spell that right?
any help is greatly appreciated.
                                          jerry

I'm not much help on the mixer as I mix by hand in 20 lb batches. I have done up to 60 lbs at a time but I always mix in 20 lb amounts. I have seen a number of reasonably priced mixers around the net. Hopefully someone will be along with more help.

Oh... Nothing wrong with being "fiscally responsible"  ;)

Mike
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: West Coast Sausage Maker on December 13, 2008, 02:42:09 PM
Mr Walleye is right. Why not mix by hand.
I have a mixer, but most of the time I'll just mix by hand. Especially if Im making 20 lbs or less.

I mix 20 lbs of meat in a container that can hold 40! thats the easiest most money and time saving way. IMHO

Mike
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 13, 2008, 02:53:54 PM
Do a search on Ebay for meat grinders; you can find some relatively inexpensive hand powered meat grinders
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: Mr Walleye on December 13, 2008, 02:57:08 PM
I use these meat tubs...

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0058721518635a&navCount=1&podId=0058721&parentId=cat20099&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat602009-cat20099&catalogCode=XJ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20099&hasJS=true

I find these just the right size for mixing 20 lb batches. They also fit in the fridge nicely.

Mike
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 13, 2008, 02:58:19 PM
Lots of places have a 20 lb mixer.

cabelas.com

sausagemaker.com (Buffalo NY)

alliedkenco.com  (Houston TX)

lemproducts.com (Ohio)

northerntool.com

I also use the meat tubs mike does. The 20lb mixer works well too  ;D


nepas
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 13, 2008, 03:03:43 PM
Quote from: smokinrookie on December 13, 2008, 02:48:51 PM
when mixing by hand what type of container is best?
i have a small plastic one i used for starter batches (about 2 lbs)
is it safe to stick with plastic?
i am in the process of researching food safety, from the many informative
posts here and my head is spinning in a major way.

Plastic is best, use some food grade safe rubber or latex gloves and make sure the meat is cold. If you have a kitchenaid mixer the paddle works well to mix small batches.

nepas
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: pensrock on December 13, 2008, 03:20:29 PM
Yep, food grade plastic tubs is what I use also. I mix up to 35 lb batches at one time but the 20 lb batches are easier to handle. I've made sausages for 20+ years and never once used a meat mixer. I have an electric grinder and an antique cast iron 15lb. stuffer. Add a little muscle and away you go.
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 13, 2008, 03:22:03 PM
Other than mixing muscle meat for jerky, wouldn't a grinder work better for mixing meat, say for sauage or does the mixer work better?  I've never used a mixer and was just wondering.

Thanks!

SD
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 13, 2008, 03:29:42 PM
When i use my grinder i wrap one of them elastic frozen sports things around the neck of the grinder to keep the heat down so the fat dont start to melt. Same with the kithenaid mixer i put the metal bowl in the fridge before mixing.
The big sausage maker dudes use dry ice in the mix while mixing.

If you use your grinder just go slow, you dont want your meat to turn into an emulsion like hot dog mix.

nepas
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 13, 2008, 03:33:15 PM
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on December 13, 2008, 03:29:42 PM
When i use my grinder i wrap one of them elastic frozen sports things around the neck of the grinder to keep the heat down so the fat dont start to melt. Same with the kithenaid mixer i put the metal bowl in the fridge before mixing.
The big sausage maker dudes use dry ice in the mix while mixing.

If you use your grinder just go slow, you dont want your meat to turn into an emulsion like hot dog mix.

nepas

Great tips, Nepas.  Thanks!

SD
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: deb415611 on December 13, 2008, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on December 13, 2008, 03:29:42 PM
Same with the kithenaid mixer i put the metal bowl in the fridge before mixing.

nepas

I bet this would work well.   http://www.shopkitchenaid.com/product_detail.asp?HDR=attachments&T1=KTA+KN2WJ

Title: Re: more help please
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 13, 2008, 03:40:45 PM
Yeah deb that would work good



nepas
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: Smokin Soon on December 13, 2008, 03:41:58 PM
I use a metal bowl sitting in one of those plastic meat lugs full of ice. Somone here told me to do that. That way you dont have to rush. Works good, even on a warm day.
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 13, 2008, 03:45:59 PM
Quote from: Smoking Duck on December 13, 2008, 03:33:15 PM
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on December 13, 2008, 03:29:42 PM
When i use my grinder i wrap one of them elastic frozen sports things around the neck of the grinder to keep the heat down so the fat dont start to melt. Same with the kithenaid mixer i put the metal bowl in the fridge before mixing.
The big sausage maker dudes use dry ice in the mix while mixing.

If you use your grinder just go slow, you dont want your meat to turn into an emulsion like hot dog mix.

nepas

Great tips, Nepas.  Thanks!

SD

No problemo SD

Hey i think Jeremiah Johnson is on tv again tonite or tomorrow........................twernt mormons    ;D

nepas
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: Mr Walleye on December 13, 2008, 04:16:29 PM
Here's a good write up on food grade plastic if anybody is interested.

http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/plastics.html

Mike
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 13, 2008, 05:24:27 PM
Man, I love that movie  ;D
Title: Re: more help please
Post by: Buck36 on December 13, 2008, 06:02:05 PM
This is the mixer I have and am very happy with it. It is around a hundred bucks. I mixed before by hand and if you are working with a large volume of meat it will freeze your hands. You also get a better mix of the spices in the meat.

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200004374_200004374 (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200004374_200004374)

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