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Title: A new hello to everyone
Post by: atrueman on January 17, 2005, 09:56:09 PM
Been using a BS in United Kingdom for the last eight months.

Concentrating on cold smoked salmon, smoked trout pate, and smoked bacon.

All are working well.

Smoked chicken is also a real treat.

Just cooked my first pastrami but waiting for an old new yorker who lives over here to give me an honest opinion. It taste fine to me.

I intend to visit the forum every day as the information and advice flowing around is fantastic.

Regards to everyone i hope to correspond with some of you later.


Alan


alan
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: Warrior on January 17, 2005, 10:30:12 PM
Welcome...  I am also new to the forum, as well smoking.  Everyone seems very willing to help out and to provide advise when and where needed.

Again, welcome.

Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: SMOKEHOUSE ROB on January 17, 2005, 10:38:09 PM
welcome both of you to the forum.[:D]

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Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: JJC on January 17, 2005, 11:36:13 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by atrueman</i>
<br />Been using a BS in United Kingdom for the last eight months.

Concentrating on cold smoked salmon, smoked trout pate, and smoked bacon.

All are working well.

Smoked chicken is also a real treat.

Just cooked my first pastrami but waiting for an old new yorker who lives over here to give me an honest opinion. It taste fine to me.

I intend to visit the forum every day as the information and advice flowing around is fantastic.

Regards to everyone i hope to correspond with some of you later.


Alan


alan
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Welcome to the Forum, Alan!  Glad you'll be joining us.  It's a great bunch of folks--no question is too basic and no mistake hasn't already been made by more than one of us here . . . [:D]

I've posted a terrific pate recipe that I use for salmon, steelhead, and bluefish.  I'm always looking for something new to try, and I'm not sure if my recipe will be as good on trout.  Would you please post that pate recipe here?  Be careful--Olds might scoop it up for the the newbie board!   [;)][:D]  I'd also love to hear how you cold smoke your salmon.

Hey Olds--what are you going to name that board?  Newbie Board, FAQs, New Users Start Here, ???

John
Newton MA
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: Chez Bubba on January 18, 2005, 01:09:18 AM
Alan,

I looked everywhere & can't find your <b>old</b> hello.[;)]

If you haven't noticed yet, I'm the boards' resident smartass.[:D]

And welcome to the forum, I look forward to learning your experiences.[:)]

Kirk

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Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: BigSmoker on January 18, 2005, 01:26:55 AM
Welcome to the forum[:D].

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Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: nsxbill on January 18, 2005, 01:38:21 AM
Welcome to the forum..ditto about finding a great source of info...Something new everyday...mispelled sometimes, but still good information! [:D]

Bill
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: JJC on January 18, 2005, 02:00:50 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">...mispelled sometimes [:D]

Bill
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That's because we're too busy eating to spell-check[:D][:D][:D]

John
Newton MA
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: Oldman on January 18, 2005, 02:46:25 AM
Greetings atrueman!

While Chez Bubba is the boards' resident smartass, I'm the resident thief!

If you have one or a few even many proven recipes that you would like to have added to our data base please post it/ them. I will then  added it/ them our data base.

If you would like to see what we have gotten done so far then go to http://www.susanminor.org/index2.html Click in the link "Bradley Smokers Here."

At the moment I'm using posting boards to catagorize with sub board the items. I'm doing it this way for two reasons. First it is easy on me to set up and manage. For example <b>bsolomon</b> did an excellent piece on the types of woods and what to use them on. Next <b>JJC</b> a few days later did an excellent Wood Flavor Chart. By using a board system it was easy to add JJC's work to bsolomon's.

Futhermore, the board allow nsxbill to proof read and make any corrections without having to mess with HTML and a FTP program.  When we are through the end project will be Smokers FAQ in the form of a static page with sub-links. I'm not sure of what we will really call it yet--maybe we will have a contest for that! [:D][:p]

There is one OPEN posting board there that you make post to or make any suggestions. The rest are read only boards.

Again welcome to this place~~!
Olds

BTW Now you know why I'm the resident thief! Post a recipe and I've got it LOL!!![:D]


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Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: JJC on January 18, 2005, 04:24:57 AM
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While Chez Bubba is the boards' resident smartass, I'm the resident thief!
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That's what I love about this guy--he doesn't mind pleading guilty! [:D]

Hey, Olds--you've got mail!

John
Newton MA
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: atrueman on January 18, 2005, 09:18:29 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JJC</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by atrueman</i>
<br />Been using a BS in United Kingdom for the last eight months.

Concentrating on cold smoked salmon, smoked trout pate, and smoked bacon.

All are working well.

Smoked chicken is also a real treat.

Just cooked my first pastrami but waiting for an old new yorker who lives over here to give me an honest opinion. It taste fine to me.

I intend to visit the forum every day as the information and advice flowing around is fantastic.

Regards to everyone i hope to correspond with some of you later.


Alan


alan
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Welcome to the Forum, Alan!  Glad you'll be joining us.  It's a great bunch of folks--no question is too basic and no mistake hasn't already been made by more than one of us here . . . [:D]

I've posted a terrific pate recipe that I use for salmon, steelhead, and bluefish.  I'm always looking for something new to try, and I'm not sure if my recipe will be as good on trout.  Would you please post that pate recipe here?  Be careful--Olds might scoop it up for the the newbie board!   [;)][:D]  I'd also love to hear how you cold smoke your salmon.

Hey Olds--what are you going to name that board?  Newbie Board, FAQs, New Users Start Here, ???

John
Newton MA
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alan
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: atrueman on January 18, 2005, 09:48:03 PM
thanks for the interest in english smoked trout pate and cold smoked salmon.

8oz warm smoked trout fillet ( not cured and smoked at lower temperature till cooked pink)

4oz of cold smoked salmon
 
4oz of cream cheese

Squirt of lemon juice


Blend together add a dash of "fromage fraise" or cream and put into small tubs.   Freezers well if you want

Serve with hot toast and small amount of salad.

The abscence of other ingredients really lets the flavour through.

Cold smoking salmon is fairly easy particularly if the fish is good

Take a side of slamon with all bones removes. A cheap pair of small pliers are useful.

Mix together 1lb of salt with 1lb of sugar and put on a plastic tray.

Place the fish on the mixture with the skin upwards. Make sure that the fish is in full contact and pile any spare mixture to the sides and on top of the fish. A small fat board with a bit of weight will help the moisture leave the fish. Leave overnight, wash the fish and hang to dry for a few hours. Cold smoke the fish for about 4 hours. Slice very thinly. (Odd bits use in the smoked trout pate)

The method of cold smoking is to seperate the smoke generator from the box by introducing a intermediate chamber. John Watkins demonstates this on the UK website. Towards the end of the paragraph on cold smoking there is a link. John is using a cardboard box and a tumble dryer hose. I have made something a little more substantial but the idea is the same

Traditionally Scottish smoked salmon would smoked in oak. I have tried maple and apple with good results. A bit of rich brown suger in cure is another option.Good smoked salmon is raw in appearance but highly prized in the UK.

Hot smoked salmon is virtually unheard of in the UK.

Perhaps I hope to make my name with some of the fasinating dishes you Americans and Canadians have produced.

Regards

Alan.

alan
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: Oldman on January 19, 2005, 12:24:35 AM
atrueman Thanks for your recipe. I had one heck of a time trying to find out what fromage fraise was. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe your spelling is English and the French spell it fromage frais.  Here is where I have added it to the recipe data base:

http://www.susanminor.org/cgi-bin/iB3/ikonboard.cgi?s=964565cbc2c78f299ad671adda3ce159;act=ST;f=17;t=115

<font size="4"><font color="red"><b>atruemans' recipe is added!!</b></font id="red"></font id="size4">

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Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: JJC on January 19, 2005, 04:27:09 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by atrueman</i>
<br />thanks for the interest in english smoked trout pate and cold smoked salmon.

8oz warm smoked trout fillet ( not cured and smoked at lower temperature till cooked pink)

4oz of cold smoked salmon
 
4oz of cream cheese

Squirt of lemon juice


Blend together add a dash of "fromage fraise" or cream and put into small tubs.   Freezers well if you want

Serve with hot toast and small amount of salad.

The abscence of other ingredients really lets the flavour through.

Cold smoking salmon is fairly easy particularly if the fish is good

Take a side of slamon with all bones removes. A cheap pair of small pliers are useful.

Mix together 1lb of salt with 1lb of sugar and put on a plastic tray.

Place the fish on the mixture with the skin upwards. Make sure that the fish is in full contact and pile any spare mixture to the sides and on top of the fish. A small fat board with a bit of weight will help the moisture leave the fish. Leave overnight, wash the fish and hang to dry for a few hours. Cold smoke the fish for about 4 hours. Slice very thinly. (Odd bits use in the smoked trout pate)

The method of cold smoking is to seperate the smoke generator from the box by introducing a intermediate chamber. John Watkins demonstates this on the UK website. Towards the end of the paragraph on cold smoking there is a link. John is using a cardboard box and a tumble dryer hose. I have made something a little more substantial but the idea is the same

Traditionally Scottish smoked salmon would smoked in oak. I have tried maple and apple with good results. A bit of rich brown suger in cure is another option.Good smoked salmon is raw in appearance but highly prized in the UK.

Hot smoked salmon is virtually unheard of in the UK.

Perhaps I hope to make my name with some of the fasinating dishes you Americans and Canadians have produced.

Regards

Alan.

alan
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Alan,

This is great stuff!  The Forum is already starting to take on an international flavor [:D] with the recipes you and a couple of our other international brethren have provided!

I was intrigued by your desciption of an intermediate chamber between the smoke generator and the main chamber to facilitate a cold smoke.  I had a thought that might be helpful to Olds, Duck-man, and those in the South, as well to some of us Northerners who might want to make cold-smoked foods in the hot summer months:  could the intermediate chamber containe a tray of ice, or even one of those small, flat  "blue ice" blocks to help keep the temp down?

John
Newton MA
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: tsquared on January 19, 2005, 05:16:45 AM
JJC re the intermediate chamber for cold smoke.-- I use an old Little Chief smoker that i inherited from my father for an intermediate chamber. I cut a hole in the side so the BS smoke generator slides in and put a piece of dryer hose out the top that I slid onto a 90 degree piece of ducting. I slide the BS generator into the side of the Little Chief, stick the dryer hose in the top and shove the duct into the side of the BS. I put the water bowl in the Little chief to extinguish the pucks. The temp never goes over 5 degrees above the ambient, so even in 80 degree weather, you would be fine to cold smoke. Cold smoking salmon is the main reason I originally bought my BS. Hanging out with these characters on this board has led me to smoke all kinds of other things, I  am still over the moon about how well my cold smoke salmon turns out.
Tom
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: JJC on January 19, 2005, 06:20:40 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by tsquared</i>
<br />JJC re the intermediate chamber for cold smoke.-- I use an old Little Chief smoker that i inherited from my father for an intermediate chamber. I cut a hole in the side so the BS smoke generator slides in and put a piece of dryer hose out the top that I slid onto a 90 degree piece of ducting. I slide the BS generator into the side of the Little Chief, stick the dryer hose in the top and shove the duct into the side of the BS. I put the water bowl in the Little chief to extinguish the pucks. The temp never goes over 5 degrees above the ambient, so even in 80 degree weather, you would be fine to cold smoke. Cold smoking salmon is the main reason I originally bought my BS. Hanging out with these characters on this board has led me to smoke all kinds of other things, I  am still over the moon about how well my cold smoke salmon turns out.
Tom
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Sounds great, Tom.  I think I have an old Lil Chief hanging around somewhere.  Do you have any pics you could post?  I'm also curious why the duct comes out of the top of the Lil Chief and then goes into the BS.  Is that to catch the rising smoke?

John
Newton MA
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: MallardWacker on January 19, 2005, 02:26:23 PM
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<br />......and smoked bacon.
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Now that my kind of smoker, BACON[:p].

Welcome Allen.

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Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: JJC on January 20, 2005, 05:23:44 AM
Gotta love the way Duck-man reduces something to its true and simplest form!  Truly an awesome talent I wish I had! [8D][8D][8D]

John
Newton MA
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: manxman on January 20, 2005, 12:50:35 PM
Hi Folks,

Used the John Watkins/Grakka method of separating the smoke generator from the smoke box to cold smoke a variety of things last night (Cheddar, blue cheese, olives, garlic, butter, quail eggs, sea salt - various ideas picked up off the internet) and found it excellent.

As mentioned elsewhere temperature never went more than a couple of degrees above ambient, in this instance not more than around 9decC/49degF and never even registered on the BS door thermometer.

Took care to cut a big enough hole in the cardboard box for the smoke generator to sit in to make sure their was virtually no risk of the cardboard box igniting and at the end of smoking there was no sign of charring on the box and it never got particularly hot, just warm. I will be able to reuse it.

Found wrapping a damp cloth around the base of the tumble dryer hose where it exits the top of the cardboard box (to catch the rising smoke)to take the smoke to the smoker reduced what little smoke loss there was in this area despite my careful cutting of the hole!

Just put the BS box bit itself on the patio table to raise it above the smoke generator, bringing it up to a perfect height for loading and unloading the food.

All in all very impressed, just letting the various goodies I tried smoking sit in the fridge for a couple of days before sampling.[:D]

Manxman.
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: BigSmoker on January 20, 2005, 05:48:01 PM
Manxman,
If your going to cold smoke a smaller amount of stuff I've had good success adding ice to the puck catcher then a tray of ice on the bottom or next to bottom rack and my food product above that.  Glad your having fun.

Jeff
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Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: atrueman on January 20, 2005, 06:22:24 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by manxman</i>
<br />Hi Folks,

Used the John Watkins/Grakka method of separating the smoke generator from the smoke box to cold smoke a variety of things last night (Cheddar, blue cheese, olives, garlic, butter, quail eggs, sea salt - various ideas picked up off the internet) and found it excellent.

As mentioned elsewhere temperature never went more than a couple of degrees above ambient, in this instance not more than around 9decC/49degF and never even registered on the BS door thermometer.

Took care to cut a big enough hole in the cardboard box for the smoke generator to sit in to make sure their was virtually no risk of the cardboard box igniting and at the end of smoking there was no sign of charring on the box and it never got particularly hot, just warm. I will be able to reuse it.

Found wrapping a damp cloth around the base of the tumble dryer hose where it exits the top of the cardboard box (to catch the rising smoke)to take the smoke to the smoker reduced what little smoke loss there was in this area despite my careful cutting of the hole!

Just put the BS box bit itself on the patio table to raise it above the smoke generator, bringing it up to a perfect height for loading and unloading the food.

All in all very impressed, just letting the various goodies I tried smoking sit in the fridge for a couple of days before sampling.[:D]

Manxman.
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alan
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: atrueman on January 20, 2005, 06:36:15 PM
good to see that Manxman is really giving the cold smoking some treatment.

Cheese and garlic really benefit from the lack of heat.

I am intrigued by the mention of ice in the process. Still i live in a climate that rarely experiences high temperature and as Manxman lives about 60 miles west of me over a small stretch of sea I'm sure he don't have too much trouble either.

Sorry about the speeling of frais ( or fraise) I'm sure you are right but the French have funny ways of spelling food largely depending on whether it's male or female eating it.

Do we have a member smoker in Quebec who can clear up the matter.

By the way do any of you Canadians have any inside info on the NHL. I really miss getting up at 2am to watch the Maple leafs or Redwings

Back to business: This weekends smoke is local cock pheasant and some rabbit

Not before i've tried some of Manxmans sea salt

Best wishes to everyone

Alan


alan
Title: Re: A new hello to everyone
Post by: manxman on January 20, 2005, 07:11:06 PM
Hi folks,

BigSmoke....thanks for the info. about the ice, may be useful in the height of summer but even then we rarely get ambient temperatures above 30 degC! Wet and windy is the normal! I may give it a try as an alternative to the Grakka cold smoke method and compare at some stage.

Alan, if you are giving sea salt a try I spread it out thinly on greaseproof paper when smoking. As it is a dessicant I found I had to put it in the oven at around 90 - 100 degC for a short while afterwards to dry it out.

Manxman.