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Smoking Techniques => Hot Smoking and Barbecuing => Topic started by: Kane on May 27, 2009, 12:20:38 PM

Title: Wild Boar
Post by: Kane on May 27, 2009, 12:20:38 PM
Im finally gonna smoke this 10lb hind quarter I got.  Ill most likely use apple pucks but I have a box of these Jim Beam pucks and Im thinking about trying em. Has anyone used these for pulled pork yet? results?
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: OU812 on May 27, 2009, 12:38:59 PM
Have not seen the Jim Beam pucks in my area yet but what I have herd is they are white oak. Have not seen the Crown Royal eather but I think they are white oak also. Oak is good with about anything.   IMO
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: DaBeef2112 on May 27, 2009, 01:00:41 PM
I used the Crown Royal to cold smoke some steaks last weekend before I grilled it and it tasted excellent. Can't say for sure if it's any different the the regular oak yet because I haven't tried it. I really couldn't taste any Whisky in the final product and I drink a lot of Whisky...   ;D

I have some JB pucks as well but I haven't tried them yet. Maybe this weekend?

OU812 is right, JB and CR are both aged in Charred White Oak.


Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: FLBentRider on May 27, 2009, 01:11:06 PM
I've used them on pork. Not bad. The flavoring of the JB is just barely there.

The last wild boar I shot was very lean. I'm not sure how well it would pull.

Have you done wild boar pulled pork before ?
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Up In Smoke on May 27, 2009, 01:17:33 PM
MMMMMMMMMM...oak smoke and steaks!
Major slobber drool!
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Kane on May 27, 2009, 03:28:21 PM
Quote from: FLBentRider on May 27, 2009, 01:11:06 PM
I've used them on pork. Not bad. The flavoring of the JB is just barely there.

The last wild boar I shot was very lean. I'm not sure how well it would pull.

Have you done wild boar pulled pork before ?

no, Ive never done any Wild Boar so Im kinda flying blind here.  Some suggestions were made that I do a ham but Id rather not.  Any suggestions?

My plan was cover in bacon and slow roast at 220 to internal temp of like 190 but Im not sure
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Smokin Soon on May 27, 2009, 05:45:33 PM
I've never done one that big, but I have Injected a few with Cajun Injector stuff knowing that they will need the moisture.
http://www.cajuninjector.com/cajun-injector-marinades.html (http://www.cajuninjector.com/cajun-injector-marinades.html)
I like the Creole Butter myself for pork. Boars will never be the same as the meat varies by the age of the animal. If it is a lean one some like to brine, it makes it too salty for my taste. I will try to predict the final 2 hours and wrap in foil with Applejuice, Orange Soda, or whatever is on hand. Had one that was a slicer instead of a puller no matter what you did with it. Tasted pretty good though!
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: FLBentRider on May 28, 2009, 03:00:05 AM
I brine domestic butts, I would probably brine a wild one too.

Maybe not a bacon wrap - I like my bark - but a pound of bacon in the rack above.
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: OU812 on May 28, 2009, 05:46:23 AM
I have never done a wild boar myself but have done wild turkey which is very lean also and have done it the Cajun Injector, Creole Butter with great success.

The Creole Butter has great flavor.

Maybe mop it, after the smoke, every hr for 5 or 6 hr then foil it till its close to the final temp then unwrap and finish up to get the bark back.

Good luck
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: NePaSmoKer on May 28, 2009, 06:08:30 AM
1. Maintain a low cooking temperature
2. Maximize moisture retention in the meat.


I keep my cooking temperature around 200°F - 225°F. The goal is to slowly raise the internal temperature of the meat to 180°F and then hold it there for about an hour. "Slow and low". Cooking time will be about 1.5 – 2 hours per pound of meat, but can vary based on thickness and whether or not it's bone-in or bone-out. Wild boar is leaner than domesticated pig, darker meat and kinda fiberous.

Covering the meat with fatty bacon or other fats while it cooks is another technique. This is typically used on very lean meats that lack sufficient natural fat so the bacon acts as a substitute. This is a great way to add fat and moisture during the cooking process.

Once the meat has smoked for a few hours and absorbed a sufficient quantity of smoke flavor the meat can be tightly wrapped in foil. This wrap will reduce moisture evaporation into the open air and keep the juices close to the meat (acting more like a braise than BBQ). It's also a great way to capture the juices for use in a sauce. If you want a crispy exterior (a "bark") then don't use a foil wrap and cook a little longer. If you want some insurance on getting a tender, moist final product then use the wrap.


Use Oak or hickory.

This is OPT

If you want smoke flavor use your smoker for the first 1 - 2 hours to infuse some smoke flavor into the meat. Then finish the cooking in the oven. Heat your oven to 200°F - 225°F. Wrap the meat in foil. Put it in the oven until done. About 1.5 - 2 hours per pound.

nepas




Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Caneyscud on May 28, 2009, 06:54:55 AM
Exactly as Nepas said, except one other option is to mop (baste a few times while cooking) to maintain moisture during the smoke and don't want the bacon flavor. 
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Kane on May 28, 2009, 10:46:58 AM
thanks guys,

so I should only hit it with 2 hours of smoke? I was thinking 4 hours like a Boston butt. So if I do the wrapped foil thing in the oven will this meat "pull" or shred for buns?

Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Smokin Soon on May 28, 2009, 09:45:03 PM
It all depends on the pig. It might just fall apart or some minor chopping involved. It will be DELISH anyway! We have all learned to recover our overcooks with sauce and our undercooks with chopping. I am sure you will be happy with the results.
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Kane on May 29, 2009, 11:26:51 AM
Thanks,

I injected some pineapple juice in it and let it sit over night. I just hit it with Icemans rub and have it on the kitchen counter coming up to room temp. Will be in the smoker soon

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Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Kane on May 29, 2009, 11:53:23 AM
And if ya liked the first pic you will love the 2nd!!!

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Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: OU812 on May 29, 2009, 12:21:31 PM
Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon

That should keep it moist.

Heck you could even chop up the bacon and put it in with the pork if your pulling it.
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Kane on May 29, 2009, 12:36:22 PM
snaps fingers! now why the heck didnt I think of that.
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: OU812 on May 29, 2009, 12:56:24 PM
That's what is nice about this place everyone helps each other.

5000 + minds working together.

Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: CB on May 29, 2009, 01:06:59 PM
So the acid in the pineapple juice (fresh or canned?) would tenderize it and the bacon would seal and keep in moisture (essentially as we all know, the meat is now only a service vehicle for the bacon!)

Good stuff! Thanks
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Kane on May 29, 2009, 01:28:29 PM
chuckles, I have no idea how this turns out. I bought a can of pineapple. (I have a ham Im doing in the Nesco so I needed it anyway)  Figured what the heck and gave it a couple injections.
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: OU812 on May 29, 2009, 02:59:48 PM
Even are mistakes taste good just not what we expected
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Kane on May 29, 2009, 04:42:33 PM
The Bradley-DigiQ doin its thang.  ;D

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Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Kane on May 29, 2009, 04:46:16 PM
3 hours of Jim Beam smoke - Temp at 131 right now.  Wrapped in Foil and back in for the night

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Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: OU812 on June 01, 2009, 09:01:46 AM
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Bacon

So how did that bad boy turn out?
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: NePaSmoKer on June 01, 2009, 09:03:05 AM
Very nice  ;D

nepas
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Tenpoint5 on June 01, 2009, 09:09:41 AM
Now that looks GOOOOD!!!
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Kane on June 01, 2009, 11:31:32 AM
ahhhhhh, it was just ok.  The flavor was great but it wasnt as tender as I hoped for. I cooked to an internal temp of 180 than FTC for about 2 hours. I think Id go to 190 internal next time and Id try without the foil wrap
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: OU812 on June 01, 2009, 12:19:48 PM
You can still save it .
Put it in the crock pot on low for about 6 to 8 hr. Throw in some apple juice to keep from drying out and the BACON.
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Kane on June 01, 2009, 01:37:54 PM
thats what I did. the apple juice helped but I dont care for the flavor it adds to the meat. My guests did eat it all so I guess it wasnt all that bad.
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: OU812 on June 01, 2009, 01:54:34 PM
Well at least you didn't have everyone turning up there nose up at it.

Even are mistakes can turn out good, not what we expected but good.
Title: Re: Wild Boar
Post by: Up In Smoke on June 01, 2009, 04:31:00 PM
Sometimes we can be harder on ourselves than others can be on us.
sounds like it worked out pretty well.
i would have never thought to inject with pineapple juice.