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Consumables and Accessories => Accessories => Topic started by: dbrown1 on September 14, 2009, 12:00:00 PM

Title: Additional heating element
Post by: dbrown1 on September 14, 2009, 12:00:00 PM
I was looking for some information on an additional heating element for the BDS if anyone has information on this I would appreciate it.... did some smoking this weekend and for some reason I had a problem getting my temp close, in some cases it was more than 40 degrees off....needless to say I was a bit upset and want to fix this issue. Thanks in advance for your help.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: Habanero Smoker on September 14, 2009, 02:04:51 PM
Adding the additional heating element is not recommended unless you have a PID or other second party temperature controller.

Here are the instructions to add an additional element to the BDS.
Additional Heating Element (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=572)
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: dbrown1 on September 16, 2009, 08:20:24 AM
Thanks for the link Hab, that seems easy enough..
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: porterdriver on October 06, 2010, 11:52:54 AM
I am buying all of my additions and accessories before I I get my 6-Rack BDS.  I already have fan kit, Auber PID, cold smoke attachment, and Maverick wireless thermometer...so I am just about done.  I want to do all of my mods before I smoke for the first time.

This thread is about a year or so old since anyone posted in it.  Love Mr. Walleye's instructions, I think even I can do this.  However, I am having trouble finding a source for the additional heating element and the reflector shield.

Mr. Walleye said he got his element and reflector from "Yard & Pool".  With no more information than that, I haven't been able to find that business on-line.

Anybody give a rookie a hand with this?

TIA
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: squirtthecat on October 06, 2010, 11:58:09 AM
Quote from: porterdriver on October 06, 2010, 11:52:54 AM
I am buying all of my additions and accessories before I I get my 6-Rack BDS.  I already have fan kit, Auber PID, cold smoke attachment, and Maverick wireless thermometer...so I am just about done.  I want to do all of my mods before I smoke for the first time.

This thread is about a year or so old since anyone posted in it.  Love Mr. Walleye's instructions, I think even I can do this.  However, I am having trouble finding a source for the additional heating element and the reflector shield.

Mr. Walleye said he got his element and reflector from "Yard & Pool".  With no more information than that, I haven't been able to find that business on-line.

Anybody give a rookie a hand with this?

TIA

Here ya go..

http://www.yardandpool.com/Bradley-Smoker-Replacement-Parts-s/341.htm


Brian Bryan (from Yard & Pool) is a long-time member on the forum.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: Tenpoint5 on October 06, 2010, 11:59:06 AM
This should take you right to it. http://www.yardandpool.com/
If you have any questions give them a call and they will be more than happy to help you out. Bryan is a member here on the forum.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: GusRobin on October 06, 2010, 12:19:29 PM
You can order the high temp connectors and wire fron Allied Kenco
http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/585_762?osCsid=undefined (http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/585_762?osCsid=undefined)

I would recommend that you do one smoke before you do your mods. That way you know everything is working. I did my seasoning and a small chicken. I figured that if something wasn't working after the mods at least I know it wasn't in the original unit as shipped and will help narrow the fix.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: porterdriver on October 06, 2010, 12:40:52 PM
Gus,

Excellent point.  Hadn't thought that through.  I was just trying to work on stuff before it got snotty and sooty and the connectors welded themselves together but your point is well taken.

Thank you (and thank the rest of the cats on this site).  Answers to questions that I have posted on this board have been amazingly quick in coming, spot on, and greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: Toker on October 06, 2010, 12:49:54 PM
And just remember that installing a fan will void your waranty sorry to be party breaker but me i waited 1 full year before doing mine. My friend is suppose to come tonight to do it with me lol.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: porterdriver on October 06, 2010, 01:22:44 PM
I guess that I might risk the warranty issue after I have done the above-recommended test drive of factory equipment but I doubt that my ADHD will allow me to wait a year before implementing the desired changes.

Seems like there are some of these modifications that Bradley would want to make on their own; sort of an "advanced model". 

Of course that is just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: Toker on October 06, 2010, 01:32:38 PM
You know i think Bradley compagny doe not encourage any mod at all due to the fire azards that we are risking. Anyway you already have a pid. The only thing that i would add in your setup, its a 2nd inline fuse and a 2nd black sensor but maybe you already thought about it. You can get them at Yardandpool.com
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: porterdriver on October 06, 2010, 01:38:10 PM
I was thinking that if Bradley did the mods, they could upgrade and adjust for any additional risk.

I'm not sure what you mean by '2nd inline fuse and a 2nd black sensor'.  Is that to fuse the second heating element?  Hate to be a pest but can you give me a little more info as what those parts are for and perhaps part numbers from Yard and Pool?
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: Toker on October 06, 2010, 01:44:38 PM
I dont know if you have a obs or a dbs but here are the link for the obs parts the fuse are for adding more safty in case your pid fail some time If it does but for me safer is better so here are the link

fuse   http://www.yardandpool.com/Bradley-Smoker-Replacement-Inline-Fuse-p/inlinefuse.htm


sensor  http://www.yardandpool.com/Bradley-Smoker-Replacement-Temperature-Sensor-p/tempsensor.htm
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: Habanero Smoker on October 06, 2010, 01:47:09 PM
If I remember you had the digital, and that will only require an in-line fuse. If you install an in-line fuse make sure you order the one for the digital smokers.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: Toker on October 06, 2010, 01:52:00 PM
Link for digital fuse  http://www.yardandpool.com/Bradley-Smoker-Replacement-Inline-Fuse-Digital-p/inlinefusedi.htm
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: porterdriver on October 06, 2010, 02:01:02 PM
I assume that I will only need one additional fused link for the second heating element as the primary is already fused.  Correct?
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: Toker on October 06, 2010, 02:02:11 PM
From what Habs said your correct. Dont really know how the digital works me i have an original.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: Habanero Smoker on October 06, 2010, 02:23:56 PM
Yes. That is if you want to install the second in-line fuse. I don't have the digital, but once you open the back you will see how the in-line fuse is installed on the original element. So it will just be a matter of wiring it the same way on the second element. Looking at the picture of that fuse, it look like the wire goes from the neutral connection of the plug, straight to the element, but I can't be sure. Mike may be logging on today, if so he can give you a definite answer.

I added the second element to my OBS without the second in-line fuse or temperature sensor.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: GusRobin on October 06, 2010, 02:28:20 PM
as far as voiding the warranty - aside from the cabinet, anything you need to replace on the bradley is not really that expensive. The smoke generator maybe but you aren't doing any mods to that. Besides, most people that have problems usually have them at the start, either loose wires, defective parts, etc that are damaged in shipping, etc. So do you initial smoke and make sure all works and you should be fine. To me the benefits were well worth the minor risk of problems.

Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: porterdriver on October 06, 2010, 07:06:25 PM
Glad you feel that way.  It is a philosophy that my impulsive nature and I will embrace...now if that shipment will just hurry up and come in.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: Toker on October 06, 2010, 07:09:22 PM
Man just a little folowup, just get ready for a big ride when you will install your fan ITS A HELL OF A JOB! My frien took 4H to install it. But its done
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: porterdriver on October 06, 2010, 07:18:34 PM
toker,

This is a bit off topic but do you have room to fit a slightly bigger fan on the inside (I'm thinking 2.5")?  Extra 1/2" in diameter bumps up CFM (2"=35 CFM up to 2.5"=45 CFM).  Just curious.

Any particular reason that the fan install took so long?  Instructions seems pretty straight forward.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: Toker on October 06, 2010, 07:26:02 PM
I think so but not sure unless you cut a couple of (mesh) of your lowest rack sorry im french dont know if its the right word. Also pay attention of the fan shaft for it to not toching anything around with the blade IT'S REALLY LIMIT ON THE LENGHT that why it took so long
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: porterdriver on October 06, 2010, 07:38:07 PM
Merci beaucoup.  J'ai bien compris votre réponse sans problème. That's as close as my high school French can take me.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: Toker on October 06, 2010, 07:43:48 PM
Hey nice try  ;D i also understood your good french BTW i'm not from France i'mfrom Quebec Canada in case you were wondering.
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: porterdriver on October 06, 2010, 07:53:11 PM
Right or wrong, I had already made the assumption that you were Quebecois (I think that's the right word for a person from Quebec).
Title: Re: Additional heating element
Post by: Toker on October 06, 2010, 08:01:10 PM
Right! i'm Quebecois lol!  ;D