BRADLEY SMOKER | "Taste the Great Outdoors"

Recipe Discussions => Meat => Topic started by: ArnieM on October 14, 2009, 12:16:56 PM

Title: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: ArnieM on October 14, 2009, 12:16:56 PM
Here's a link to my local market's sale this week (PDF).  Check the pork loin.  I'm beginning to think Canadian Bacon  ??? ???  Haven't done that before.

http://www.caraluzzis.com/files/catalog(71).pdf
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: FLBentRider on October 14, 2009, 12:30:15 PM
Canadian bacon is great.

Remember with curing to weigh each piece and measure the cure for each. You need the right amount of cure by weight.

Once you make your own.... that store bought stuff just kinda doesn't taste as good.

Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: ArnieM on October 14, 2009, 12:36:41 PM
I'm going to start researching a cure.  I can't order online and wait for it.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I'll take a look at http://www.susanminor.org for ideas too.
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: FLBentRider on October 14, 2009, 12:47:22 PM
I would look in the yellow pages for sausage supplies.

I just plain can't find it here. The more rural the area (with hunters) the more likely places are to carry it.

In South Florida ? Yeah good luck!
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: FLBentRider on October 14, 2009, 12:50:33 PM
One more thing....

As far as cure goes, there is "cure" aka cure #1, prague#1, pink salt. This is the full strength stuff that you would use to make "cure mix"

Mortons tender quick is a cure mix. There is also a cure mix recipe in Charcuterie that I use.

You don't want to use cure mix(like MTQ) to make cure mix - that will make it too weak.

I started with Mortons tender quick and then bought some cure#1 and use it to make cure mix.
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: ArnieM on October 14, 2009, 12:54:04 PM
Quote from: FLBentRider on October 14, 2009, 12:47:22 PM
I would look in the yellow pages for sausage supplies.

I'll do that.

I just plain can't find it here. The more rural the area (with hunters) the more likely places are to carry it.

In South Florida ? Yeah good luck!
I thought you cured your alligators down there  ??? ;D
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: pensrock on October 14, 2009, 01:40:25 PM
Habs Canadian Bacon (Loin Bacon) Recipe only calls for MTQ, brown sugar, onion powder and garlic powder. This time I swapped the brown sugar for maple sugar and dusted with black pepper after coming out of the rinse. Pretty simple to make. Also I think he has a 'how to' on the recipe site on making your own MTQ using cure #1.
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: FLBentRider on October 14, 2009, 01:43:23 PM
Quote from: ArnieM on October 14, 2009, 12:54:04 PM
Quote from: FLBentRider on October 14, 2009, 12:47:22 PM
I would look in the yellow pages for sausage supplies.

I'll do that.

I just plain can't find it here. The more rural the area (with hunters) the more likely places are to carry it.

In South Florida ? Yeah good luck!
I thought you cured your alligators down there  ??? ;D

Alligator Ham... Hmmmm....
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: Habanero Smoker on October 14, 2009, 01:58:53 PM
The post that Pens is speaking of, is linked below. It comes form the book "Charcuterie: The Craft of Salting, Smoking, and Curing", by Michael Ruhlman, Brian Polcyn. Having some knowledge of TQ, after I saw the recipe I figured it was close to being the same as TQ. After doing some calculations, my haunch proved to be correct.

Basic Dry Cure - Morton's Tender Quick Substitute (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=441)
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: monty on October 14, 2009, 02:00:39 PM
hey i always see you guys talking about making your own Canadian bacon and i had a question - is "Canadian" bacon the same thing as peameal bacon?

i've seen pictures of Bradley forum members smoked Canadian bacon and it looks very different to what we call Canadian bacon here (here being in Canada!)

here's what i'm talking about. it's definitely brined but i'm not sure if it's smoked.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3425/3287272027_b5855a61c5.jpg)

so when you guys say Canadian bacon do you mean "back bacon"?

i think this is a really a terminology thing. i'm confused  ???
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: FLBentRider on October 14, 2009, 02:09:20 PM
Canada:
Back bacon

USA:
Canadian bacon


Canada:
Belly bacon

USA:
Bacon

It is my understanding that peameal bacon is the loin cured, but not smoked and rolled in cornmeal. I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: Habanero Smoker on October 14, 2009, 02:12:06 PM
I have to clarify that in these days, it is hard to define regional cooking styles. These days every area uses a mix style of preparing food. Having said that, I'll try to explain the differences between the styles of Canadian bacon. Canadian bacon in Canada is traditionally not smoke or cooked before hand. Smoking and cooking is more of an American style. Peameal (coarse cornmeal) is a style of Canadian bacon. It cured the same way and the same cut is use (pork loin, called back bacon by our Northern friends). Also you can make Canadian bacon without smoking and without rolling in peameal first. Every time I make my Canadian bacon, prior to smoking I save a huge chunk for peameal.

Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: deb415611 on October 14, 2009, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: ArnieM on October 14, 2009, 12:36:41 PM
I'm going to start researching a cure.  I can't order online and wait for it.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I'll take a look at http://www.susanminor.org for ideas too.

Arnie,

I don't know of anywhere local but I haven't looked all that hard.  I have both Morton's Tender Quick and Pink Salt but I'm away and won't be back til Friday.  If you can't get any by then pm me.

Awhile back there was someone looking for cure in NYC.  I found a place that sold it in the city.  Not sure how far you are willing to drive for it but if you want I can try to find the thread. 

Deb
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: monty on October 14, 2009, 04:13:39 PM
thanks for the clarification guys

i don't see the smoked/cured variety of pork loin here - peameal is much more prevalent!
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: ArnieM on October 14, 2009, 04:20:59 PM
Thanks for the info Deb.  My search starts tomorrow.

Meanwhile, I have this little guy looking for a home.
(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx21/ArnieMauer/PorkLoin.jpg)

I'll probably end up doing about a third of it and freezing the rest.

BTW, that's my hot pepper flake grinder in the background - works well.
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on October 14, 2009, 04:43:25 PM
Once you make your own Arnie, you will never go back to store bought as others have. I used Hab's recipe and it's great stuff. Just make sure to give it a long soak after curing to reduce the salt. I've had luck finding MTQ at smaller grocery stores and it's on the spice isle by the salt.
Title: Re: Canadian Bacon?
Post by: FLBentRider on October 14, 2009, 06:36:36 PM
I would do the whole thing....

You'd be amazed how fast it disappears...