OK, here goes another attempt at smoking cheese. I'll be giving a play by play, so stop me before I get myself into another ashtray. So far I went to the store and bought a 1 1/4" X 4" diameter Gouda (7 oz). 6" X 3 1/2" X 1" (12 oz) block of Swiss, 5 3/4" X 3 3/4" X 1 1/2" (16 oz) block of medium cheddar. I've cleaned my Bradley (due to chicken grease splatter) with soap/water and wiped out with a damp sponge. I've set up my cold smoker attachment. I am placing a 12" X 9" X 1 1/2" tray full of ice on the top rack with vent wide open. Then I'm placing my rack with the uncut cheese on the next rack down, and finally placing another 12" X 9" X 1 1/2" tray full of ice on the rack below the cheese. I've filled my water tray 1/2 full of water and will be smoking for 1 hour without heat using 3 apple wood pucks. It is currently 95.5 degrees F outside (35 degrees C) with 6% relative humidity and 27.76 inches of mercury. Wind is from the East at 3.6 mph, with gusts up to 15.9 mph. We are expecting a high temp of 101 degrees F.
Kevin
Hey Kevin, I think that I would move the tray of ice down. Cool the air before it reaches the cheese. Also, if that pan of ice sweats at all, it will drip on the cheese. It might not do that with the low humidity you have. Monitor the cabinet temp and try to keep it under 90, 80 would be even better. Good luck with it.
Thanks, I will move ice the tray down to the lower rack. It took me a while to get the Gouda cut out, I never had it before and didn't realize that they packed it in some sort of wax. Had to sneak a taste of each before I started, but nothing big. just a sliver. As of now the cheese is opened and placed on cheese cloth on my jerky rack. Silly me, tried to start the smoker on my DBS 6 rack and forgot to plug in the bypass plug. Got the dreaded E1 error. Correcting now.
Kevin
IMHO, your ambient temps are too high for cold smoking cheese.
Even with the ice, it will be hard to keep you cabinet temps where you want.
I don't think about cold smoking cheese until the ambient temps are in the 50-60's.
Kevin, where do you live that it is going to be 101 today. And I thought it was hot here.
I'm in Apache Junction Arizona, we've had a bit of a warm spell here. I did insert my temperature probe, and unfortunately it is showing 91 in the cabinet now. I'll give it a few minutes to see if it drops, otherwise I might have to finsih this episode tonight.
Kevin
Waiting until the sun goes down might be a good idea. From what I remember about living there, this time of year it cools off pretty good at night. I've got the DBS to and plan on getting a couple of plugs to make up a longer sensor wire. Should make it a lot easier to use the cold smoke setup. Just smoked my first cheese yesterday so the waiting begins. ::)
Believe it or not, I got the inside temp down to 54 degrees right now. I went ahead and slid the cheese in. I've got my fingers crossed it will hold out for an hour. I've got some spare ice waiting just in case.
Kevin
Kevin, I would wait a bit longer through the night to start smoking my cheese. Even with the cold smoke set up and the actual wood burning further away, from my experience it could raise the smoker's temp by 6 - 10 degrees.
One or two hours before you start smoking open the tower door and vent fully open and keep there for the time.
HR
Quote from: KevinG on October 17, 2009, 11:42:18 AM
Believe it or not, I got the inside temp down to 54 degrees right now. I went ahead and slid the cheese in. I've got my fingers crossed it will hold out for an hour. I've got some spare ice waiting just in case.
Kevin
Keep it in the shade!
I got my fingers and eyes crossed for you.
I did place a towel under the top tray of ice to keep the condensation off the food. I only hope that the birds will stay off my homemade awning. I suspect it will keep my Bradley in the shade until about 2:00 p.m.
Kevin
Sounds like enough time to finish smoking while shaded. Is your temperature staying down?
Kevin, keep an eye on the temp inside the tower, if it starts to climb to 90 F crack the door open about 1/2". Yes a lot of smoke will come out but don't worry, there is still plenty of smoke left. Hopefully that may help some. But as others stated, I do not do cheese unless the temp is 60 or lower. Good luck.
Wouldn't you know it, power failure - %$@#! Fortunately it was a short one. It was pretty funny, I went out to check the smoker and couldn't figure why it turned off. I turned it back on, and of course I wasted a puck, dumping it in the water when I turned back on. The temp is still holding out at 52, I think as long as there are no more power outages, I might be able to save the cheese. Otherwise I'll yank it out and finish tonight like HR says.
Kevin
So far so good, the outside temp climbed up to 99 degrees, the smoker is still keeping somewhat cold at 66 degrees. 11 more minutes and I'm home free!
Kevin
I sounds like you made it work Kevin. Keep us posted.
I don't believe it. The stinking smoke Gods must be against me today. Another lousy power failure - less than 11 minutes and the power crapped out again. THANKS SRP!!!
Good thing it wasn't a refrigeration process.
I'll be pulling the cheese shortly.
Kevin
Kevin, I'm beginning to think If it wasn't for bad luck you wouldn't have any luck.
You will probably be ok.
Hooray, Yippee, WaHooo, it's finally done, pulled out, vacuum sealed, labled, and stuck in the back of my refrigerator. I don't expect to eat it until at least November 2nd. Thanks for all the help everyone!!! (Except you SRP!!!!!!)
Kevin
Quote from: HawkeyeSmokes on October 17, 2009, 11:37:54 AM
Waiting until the sun goes down might be a good idea. From what I remember about living there, this time of year it cools off pretty good at night. I've got the DBS to and plan on getting a couple of plugs to make up a longer sensor wire. Should make it a lot easier to use the cold smoke setup. Just smoked my first cheese yesterday so the waiting begins. ::)
Are those plugs just any off the shelf type. I think I want to try something like that to make it easier in the future.
You should be able to get them at Radio Shack. I am just going to take my cord with me when I go and match it up, add some wire and should be good to go. Here's a link from the FAQ's. http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showpost.php?p=774&postcount=17
Cool, thanks.
Here's a link to the plugs from Radio Shack. The plug dimentions are 5.5mm O.D.x2.1mm I.D.
It's refered to as a Type M, DC Plug.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103614
Mike
Interesting, the part number on the website is 274-1569. I wonder if they recently changed it.
They might have Kevin. It's a pretty common DC power supply plug so they should have it.
The results are in and the general consensus is MUCH BETTER THAN LAST TIME!!!! The cheese was a success, it all disappeared. Thanks all for the much needed help!
Glad to hear it came out better this time. :)
Glad to hear it was good Kevin! Now start planning to do more when your weather cools off. ;D
Is that similar to saying when H E double hockey sticks freezes over?
Kevin,
Somehow, the more problems and troubles you've had, the better it is when you get into it. You KNOW you've worked for it. :o
Congrats.
Quote from: KevinG on November 03, 2009, 04:50:54 AM
Is that similar to saying when H E double hockey sticks freezes over?
Heck, when I lived out your way, I did see frost a couple time. Mid December in fact! :D
We have found the same. Cheese smokes better when the temperatures are cooler. In the summer we tend to do it in the wee hours of the morning and try to get it vacuum packed as soon as it's cooled off in order to avoid the blocks getting 'sweaty'. We live in Eastern Ontaro, Canada, so it tends to be quite humid, thus I think ice would just add insult to injury, especially on the lower racks.
Quote from: HawkeyeSmokes on November 03, 2009, 04:26:36 PM
Quote from: KevinG on November 03, 2009, 04:50:54 AM
Is that similar to saying when H E double hockey sticks freezes over?
Heck, when I lived out your way, I did see frost a couple time. Mid December in fact! :D
Yea, we do get the occasional cold spell. Even see snow up on the mountain sometimes, but never at the house.