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Title: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 20, 2009, 07:28:08 PM
Did about 10 dozen homemade tamalies today for Christmas.

2 1/2 dozen were spinach/mushroom/sweet onion

The rest was the Butt I smoked yesterday.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/104_0984.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 20, 2009, 07:47:39 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 20, 2009, 07:28:08 PM
Did about 10 dozen homemade tamalies today for Christmas.

2 1/2 dozen were spinach/mushroom/sweet onion

The rest was the Butt I smoked yesterday.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/104_0984.jpg)

DAMN NICE CRG

Those get me homesick  :-\
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: deb415611 on December 21, 2009, 02:45:11 AM
Wow,  very nice CRG!  Doesn't make me homesick but does make me hungry. 

Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: KevinG on December 21, 2009, 04:25:52 AM
Wow, those things are a lot of work. Nice job!
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: Caribou on December 21, 2009, 04:33:44 AM
Those look great CRG!
Carolyn
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 21, 2009, 05:41:30 AM
I don't do this very often but someone usually helps me when it comes time to putting them together.

This is the first time I have put smoked Bst Butt in them and they are very very very good.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: OU812 on December 21, 2009, 04:43:19 PM
Man thats a BUNCH of tamales CRG.

I would be very interested how you did them from start to finish as I have never made them and I love the ones I get at this Mexican joint I eat at.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 21, 2009, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: OU812 on December 21, 2009, 04:43:19 PM
Man thats a BUNCH of tamales CRG.

I would be very interested how you did them from start to finish as I have never made them and I love the ones I get at this Mexican joint I eat at.

Gonna make a few more on wensday and I will post some pictures.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: ronbeaux on December 21, 2009, 05:05:15 PM
I've made them many times but they never come out like the Mexican joints around here. I suspect it is because of the way I'm making the masa. The stuffing part is killer, but they just don't finish with the same texture as theirs.

How do you make the masa??? I just followed the directions on the bag that some evil Mexican Grandma wrote on there to piss off us new guys.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: OU812 on December 21, 2009, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 21, 2009, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: OU812 on December 21, 2009, 04:43:19 PM
Man thats a BUNCH of tamales CRG.

I would be very interested how you did them from start to finish as I have never made them and I love the ones I get at this Mexican joint I eat at.

Gonna make a few more on wensday and I will post some pictures.


That would be great, thanks CRG
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 21, 2009, 05:11:35 PM
On this batch, I used corn oil, chicken broth, paprika, little sea salt, cumin, chili powder, garlic powder.

Sometimes I pulse up jalapeno and mix in.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 21, 2009, 05:12:51 PM
Ron, I also used that doubled smoke butt for the meat.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: ronbeaux on December 21, 2009, 05:18:00 PM
OK, the outer batter. How do you mix it up? Mine sucks. I steam the heck out of it and it's either too gooey or too dry. Even tried real lard in the batter. Like I said, many times I've stuffed them with left over Q and the filler is slammin but the batter is just not right.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 21, 2009, 05:21:53 PM
The ingredients I posted were mixed in with the Tamale masa.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: ronbeaux on December 21, 2009, 05:31:15 PM
OK. Consistency? Peanut butter, or pancake mix, or bread dough? I'm not ragging, I'm begging. The flavor I have down.

I plan on lot's of left overs and tamalies are a good use for them and they freeze well.

The last batch I did I used a peanut butter consistency but may have made them a little too thick because they took away from the taste of the stuffing with the extra corn batter. I'm thinking thinner but when I did that they fell apart when eating them. The old Grandma Lady around here makes them perfect and I would love to be able to duplicate that.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 21, 2009, 05:38:02 PM
I use a peanut butter consistency and spread on with a butter knife.

I use a 36 qt steamer and I have to rotate my pot around to get an even cook.

I do have some that just won't harden up with steam so I just lay out on a cookie
sheet and put in oven at 200. Flip them over after about 15 minutes and then watch
them till it is like I want.

Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: ronbeaux on December 21, 2009, 05:43:23 PM
10-4. The oven trick sounds good.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 21, 2009, 05:46:50 PM
Glad I could help.

Am gonna make more on Wensday and use that Mojo pork and I will post some pics and exact ingredients.

Since that mojo is alittle sweet, I might add some jala to the batter.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: KyNola on December 22, 2009, 09:58:51 AM
Very informative post CRG.  Looking forward to Wednesday's tutorial with instructional pics.

KyNola
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 22, 2009, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: ronbeaux on December 21, 2009, 05:43:23 PM
10-4. The oven trick sounds good.

Thanks!

Start putting some of your extra husk on the bottom first to slow down how much steam is sent out them steam holes.

That should do the trick.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: ronbeaux on December 22, 2009, 01:46:08 PM
I have been using a large steamer and packing them in there like you have shown. My thinking is that I may be packing them in too tight and some are not getting attention.

Visited Targils today while passing through Opalousas and scoped out a perforated 1/2 size steam table 4" deep pan that fits right on top of a normal pan. Looks like I could lay them all flat in there, probably around 40 or so, pop it onto one of my other pits and let it steam and smoke at the same time. ???
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 22, 2009, 01:50:41 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Heck of an idea.

I have smoked cooked tamales before by laying out a wet paper towels
and covering them with a wet paper towel. I sprayed them with diluted
water and apple juice during the smoking time and they were most excellent.

Do you flap both ends when you lay them flat?
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: ronbeaux on December 22, 2009, 02:07:43 PM
That's just it, I haven't tried the laid out flat method yet. The pan is 20"x13"x4" deep and fits into another the same size with a 1/2" space left to pour water and a lid is available if you want to cover it. I have a few already and they fit perfectly on my Primo XL so I don't think I would need a lid. The ceramic dome would allow the steam to roll around and do the cooking.

As far as laying flat. I think some would leak a little but I don't see them ruining. I'm just not ready to cough up $30.00 for a new pan right now!
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 22, 2009, 02:48:10 PM
you could probably piggie back the first roll and then not worry about it after that.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 22, 2009, 10:22:16 PM
Quote from: ronbeaux on December 22, 2009, 02:07:43 PM
That's just it, I haven't tried the laid out flat method yet. The pan is 20"x13"x4" deep and fits into another the same size with a 1/2" space left to pour water and a lid is available if you want to cover it. I have a few already and they fit perfectly on my Primo XL so I don't think I would need a lid. The ceramic dome would allow the steam to roll around and do the cooking.

As far as laying flat. I think some would leak a little but I don't see them ruining. I'm just not ready to cough up $30.00 for a new pan right now!

If you try this and I'm not saying it won't work you might want to consider somehow suppending a cover over the top of the Tamales for the sake
of condensation drip down (not good eats) off the residue of your smoker from all of the moisture.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: Pachanga on December 23, 2009, 07:18:23 AM
CRG,

Pardon me for intruding on your recipe and thread.  The following recipe might be appropriate as an additional thought since Ron mentioned lard as an oil.  

Your tamales look great.  I like your varied fillings.  I also like your dough additions. 

You mention you used "corn oil this time".  What other oils have you used?  How do the different oils compare in taste and texture?

Ron,

Here is an excerpt from my tamale recipe.  I wrote it after a lot of research, observation and experimentation.  I was on a quest to get that real (dare I say authentic?) tamale taste and texture.  I use homemade lard that is rendered slowly.  I do not care for the canned lard that is hydrogenated due to taste and health considerations.  In the recipe I say to beat until spongy.  That is a very important step. The word fluffy also comes to mind but I used that on beating the lard; another important step.    Maseca comes in two grinds; tamales or tortillas.  Obviously, don't use the tortilla grind.

I think the chicken broth brings a lot to the party.  The reserved broth refers to broth left over when making a chicken filling for the tamales.  I still use chicken stock no matter what the filling.  

Masa:
2 Cups Maseca for tamales (this brand is recommended for best results and is the main seller in Mexican Groceries)
2 cups lukewarm reserved chicken broth
1 tsp baking powder
½ tsp Sea Salt
2/3 cup lard

Combine dry ingredients and then add Chicken Broth to make soft moist dough.  Place lard in a mixer and beat until it is light and fluffy.  Add Dough and beat until spongy texture is achieved.  About 10 minutes.  This is a very easy process.  Some recommend buying premade masa.  The problem with this is it must be no older than 2 days and I do not trust that masa in the cooler is that fresh.

Steam for 45 minutes to an hour.  If freezing, do not steam until ready to serve.

Good luck and Arriba,

Pachanga



Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 23, 2009, 08:33:07 AM
Thanks Pachanga for info.

I use the Maseca Brand masa for tamales, but I use corn oil instead of Lard.

I don't usually make tamales but maybe 2 to 3 times a year, but we always enjoy them.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: Pachanga on December 23, 2009, 09:09:06 AM
CRG,

I have not used liquid oil.  I am interested in your thoughts and photos if it is not too much trouble.

Thanks for posting.  You are a machine to have turned out so many tamales.

Good luck and holy tamales, that is a load.

Pachanga
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 23, 2009, 09:19:30 AM
I try to get everything ready and get two to three people to put the Tamales together.

Of course we get all size and shapes of tamales but we have fun doing it.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: KyNola on December 23, 2009, 10:41:03 AM
And not one beer is harmed in the making of these tamales! :D

KyNola
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: ronbeaux on December 23, 2009, 11:11:57 AM
You need a straw to drink beer when making tamales!!
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 23, 2009, 11:13:43 AM
Quote from: KyNola on December 23, 2009, 10:41:03 AM
And not one beer is harmed in the making of these tamales! :D

KyNola

Me? Never harm a beer, why I don't even crush the can. ;D

Quote from: ronbeaux on December 23, 2009, 11:11:57 AM
You need a straw to drink beer when making tamales!!

Or a beer hat!
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: seemore on December 23, 2009, 09:49:29 PM
CRG great job. how about sweet potatoes Tamalies
seemore
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 23, 2009, 10:22:34 PM
Quote from: seemore on December 23, 2009, 09:49:29 PM
CRG great job. how about sweet potatoes Tamalies
seemore

Never tried that. Have you done those before? It sounds good.

Was gonna make more today and just didn't have anyone to help me.

My married (almost ;D) son wants zuchinni and corn tamales.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: Tenpoint5 on December 24, 2009, 12:25:40 AM
Sonny it might be the Barley Pops that I have had tonight but I didn't see the recipe on how to make these. Would you send it to me?
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 24, 2009, 12:41:47 AM
You want the Masa recipe?
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: OU812 on December 24, 2009, 05:30:46 AM
Quote from: Tenpoint5 on December 24, 2009, 12:25:40 AM
Sonny it might be the Barley Pops that I have had tonight but I didn't see the recipe on how to make these. Would you send it to me?

Me too  :D

Me too  ;D
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: seemore on December 24, 2009, 07:57:13 PM
CRG, we have not made the sweet potato tamales;  a coworker/friend of mine makes these and WILL NOT give me the recipe.
I was hoping that you might have made these.  They are like a desert tamale.
Mrs made some tamales a while back.  They were very good, but the masa dough was too thick.  How thick should the dough be when spreading it on the husk?
seemore
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 24, 2009, 09:01:25 PM
You don't want to see thru your masa.

Try a semi heaping tablespoon and I spread mine with a butter knife or a frosting (cake)
knife. I put the glob in center of husk to one side, spread it to the width I want, run the masa down,
kinda spread around to fill in the voids, run the masa back up, repeat filling in the voids, and then back down again.

Doing it in your hand is faster, but to get an even masa lay it down on the edge of a clean work surface.

I have smoked Tamales and that is some good eats.
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: deb415611 on December 25, 2009, 02:27:01 AM
CRG,

You need to round up your helpers because we need a pictorial!!

Deb
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: Tenpoint5 on December 25, 2009, 05:20:27 AM
Quote from: deb415611 on December 25, 2009, 02:27:01 AM
CRG,

You need to round up your helpers because we need a pictorial!!

Deb
Yes we do!!
Title: Re: Homemade Tamalies
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 25, 2009, 07:52:31 AM
No problem, I'll do that right after Christmas dinner. ;D