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Title: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: lumpy on January 20, 2010, 05:23:06 PM
If I install a 2nd burner in my BDS do I need to auto-tune up my Auber PID?


Thanks in advance for anyones help.

Lumpy
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on January 20, 2010, 05:27:55 PM
I did with mine.

It helped quite a bit.
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: MPTubbs on January 20, 2010, 05:50:41 PM
Auto-tune??

After installing my 2nd element both were glowing red hot when I fired it up......all the way to 325* where I had the PID set to.

Is there something I'm missing?
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on January 20, 2010, 05:54:14 PM
Quote from: MPTubbs on January 20, 2010, 05:50:41 PM
Auto-tune??

After installing my 2nd element both were glowing red hot when I fired it up......all the way to 325* where I had the PID set to.

Is there something I'm missing?

Running the Auto-tune on the Auber can reduce the temperature variations from the set point. Before I ran it I have +/- 5 deg and after +/- 2 deg. Most of the time +/- 1 deg.
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: MPTubbs on January 20, 2010, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: HawkeyeSmokes on January 20, 2010, 05:54:14 PM
Quote from: MPTubbs on January 20, 2010, 05:50:41 PM
Auto-tune??

After installing my 2nd element both were glowing red hot when I fired it up......all the way to 325* where I had the PID set to.

Is there something I'm missing?

Running the Auto-tune on the Auber can reduce the temperature variations from the set point. Before I ran it I have +/- 5 deg and after +/- 2 deg. Most of the time +/- 1 deg.

Auto tune on the  instruction CD?
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on January 20, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: MPTubbs on January 20, 2010, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: HawkeyeSmokes on January 20, 2010, 05:54:14 PM
Quote from: MPTubbs on January 20, 2010, 05:50:41 PM
Auto-tune??

After installing my 2nd element both were glowing red hot when I fired it up......all the way to 325* where I had the PID set to.

Is there something I'm missing?

Running the Auto-tune on the Auber can reduce the temperature variations from the set point. Before I ran it I have +/- 5 deg and after +/- 2 deg. Most of the time +/- 1 deg.

Auto tune on the  instruction CD?

Yes, page 8. I would warm the smoker up to your planned smoking temp and then run it.
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 20, 2010, 06:24:19 PM
Next time you cook and the Auber is hooked up and you are cooking at the temp you have set on the Auber, then that is the time to Auto-tune.
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 20, 2010, 06:24:56 PM
opps sorry HES ;D
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: MPTubbs on January 20, 2010, 06:32:02 PM
Got it!

I'll do that on my next smoke.
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: pensrock on January 20, 2010, 07:10:49 PM
I would do an autotune definitely. You just doubled the heating capacity so it should be re-tuned. I would put something inside to simulate a load then set it for 220 or so, allow it to get to 220 then do the tuning. Maybe twenty to thirty pounds or so should be enough. I picked 220 because that is close to where the majority of smoking/cooking is done in a Bradley.
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 20, 2010, 07:54:58 PM
This is from toker: Do this after you are within 10* of your desired cooking temp.

Press and hold SET key for 4 seconds until LED display "LCK" on the left window, then release the SET key. The display on the right window will show "0". To get into parameters setting mode, you need to key in the pass code. Use "+" and "-"keys to adjust the display to 166 (which is the pass code) and press SET

You need to change the 0 for 1 Auto-tune function. Set AT to 1 then exit the menu. The display will start to flash alternately between AT and the current temperature, which indicates auto-tuning is in progress. When the display stops flashing, the auto-tuning is finished.

Don't worry it will take up to 30 minutes to process.
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: Toker on January 21, 2010, 05:37:58 AM
Sorry i might be a little bit late on this one, just to mention that the parameter key (166 number) could be diferent depending of your pid. This number is fo the dual probes only and maybe for the dual probes with 2 relay. For the single probe one i have no idea sorry.
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: MPTubbs on January 21, 2010, 05:40:46 AM
I have the single probe model.

I'll just plug in the CD and see what it has to say about the whole thing.

Thanks toker.
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: Toker on January 21, 2010, 05:54:52 AM
When you'll know and if it's diferent could you pls post it the how to get into parameters setting mode. Thx.
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: Waltz on January 21, 2010, 11:15:57 AM
Just checked on my single probe manual and the code it states is also 166 so it looks like it applies to them all.

Waltz
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: MPTubbs on January 21, 2010, 11:30:14 AM
Quote from: Waltz on January 21, 2010, 11:15:57 AM
Just checked on my single probe manual and the code it states is also 166 so it looks like it applies to them all.

Waltz

Grooooovy man! ;D
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: Toker on January 21, 2010, 12:36:07 PM
thx for the clarification
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: lumpy on January 22, 2010, 04:32:17 PM
Nother question:

The new heat shield.........is it bigger for the two burner set-up. I can't really tell in the pictures.

Whats better. Get the kit from Yard and Pool or from Bradley?

Thanks
Lumpy
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on January 22, 2010, 04:37:26 PM
The heat shield is the same Lumpy.

Not sure if Y & P or Bradley would be better for you. Best thing would be to email each one I think.
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: lumpy on January 22, 2010, 04:40:05 PM
I will do that, but for $20, what does it really matter.

Should have read the tutorial from Mr. Walleye before asking. Its laid out very well.

Thanks
Lump
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: MPTubbs on January 23, 2010, 07:20:46 AM
Heat shields are the same and there is plenty of room to add the second element.

The only problem I had was the sides of the new heat shield feel off.

I just pop-rivited them back on and all is cool!

                               ;D

Also did the Auto tune and were up and running.
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: celica454 on November 18, 2014, 11:06:25 AM
how do you do the Auto tune
Title: Re: 2nd burner need auto tune PID?
Post by: tskeeter on November 18, 2014, 02:19:59 PM
Celica, I see you just introduced yourself.  That leads me to wonder if your smoker configuration includes an after market PID temperature controller.  The auto tune routine is a function of the PID, and is not available in a stock Bradley smoker.

If your set up includes an Auber PID, please confirm that for us.  Then, someone will be along shortly who can help you out.  And I'll check when I get home this evening to see if you got the answers you need.  If no one has answered, I'll post some intructions for you.

Tskeeter