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Bradley Smokers => Smoke Generator with Adaptor (BTSG1) => Topic started by: classicrockgriller on June 27, 2010, 02:35:11 PM

Title: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 27, 2010, 02:35:11 PM
I either need to get this running or find someone that wants a nice Cabinet for a Smoker.

http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=14749.0

I had this from a project I didn't do.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12340.jpg)

I had it plugged into a 25 foot extention cord.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12334.jpg)

I took various reading from 3 different rack levels.

This is from the middle of the smoker.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12336.jpg)

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12335.jpg)

Rack 10" above middle

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12333.jpg)

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12332.jpg)

10 " below middle rack

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12338.jpg)

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12337.jpg)

Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 27, 2010, 05:04:09 PM
I'll plug up the element that came with it tomorrow and take some more readings.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: squirtthecat on June 27, 2010, 05:07:28 PM

Looks like it'll be plenty powerful enough..

Get yourself another PID (or even a Ranco) to reign that sucker in.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: hal4uk on June 27, 2010, 05:10:16 PM
That thing oughtta do some serious smokin!
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 27, 2010, 05:39:26 PM
That Cabinet was still holding 150* 2 1/2 hrs after I shut everything down.

I'm thinking I really don't need to go to a 220 element.

Maybe Mr Walleye or HawkeyeSmokes will read this and tell me what they think.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: hal4uk on June 27, 2010, 05:46:03 PM
That cab looks like it is probably very well insulated, so it seems like - once it's up to temp, it wouldn't require much at all to keep it there..
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 27, 2010, 05:48:59 PM
I know it was empty when I did this, but it got to temp in less than a hour.

Also when I opened the door to move the probes around the temp had stablelized

in 15 to 20 minutes each time.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on June 27, 2010, 06:23:24 PM
Hey Sonny, glad see to see you fired this up and started to have some fun with it.

Your first run looks good.

I would mount your SG in it and add a top vent to it and test again. That will give you an idea of how it heats up with some air flow through it. Put a drip pan over the heating element to for the test.

You might have enough heat with the 1500W element for the smoking plans you have for it.

Keep us posted.

;D ;D



Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 27, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: HawkeyeSmokes on June 27, 2010, 06:23:24 PM
Hey Sonny, glad see to see you fired this up and started to have some fun with it.

Your first run looks good.

I would mount your SG in it and add a top vent to it and test again. That will give you an idea of how it heats up with some air flow through it. Put a drip pan over the heating element to for the test.

You might have enough heat with the 1500W element for the smoking plans you have for it.

Keep us posted.

;D ;D





Thanks HES.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 28, 2010, 11:39:57 AM
I wired up the element that came with the F S #3.

Again I used the same extention cord and just let the probe rest right below the top shelf from yesterday.

I didn't move the probe around.

30 mins -> 201*

45 mins -> 245*

1 hr -> 258*

it maxed out at the 1 hr 20 min mark at 280*

I opened the door and let the maverick reach 200 and shut the door back.

it went from 200 to 250 in 2 1/2 minutes.

reached 269 at the 5 minute mark

and maxed back out at 280* at the 9 minute mark.

I unplugged everything and at 15 minutes had a reading of 241*

30 minutes 215*

1 hr 180*

1 1/2 hr 158*

2 hrs 145*
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 28, 2010, 12:56:10 PM
Based on the watt to amp calculator:

1500 watt element at 120 volts draws 12.5 amps.

The unknown is the original element.

If it is a 1000 watt element, 8.33 amps

If it is a 1250 watt element, 10.4 amps

Kinda thinking of leaving the element that is there (it is mounted on the side wall)

and letting it free run on it's own circuit.

Putting the 1500 watt element on a PID with the smoke generator and controlling that element for high heat smoke/cooks

and not turn on the side element for low heat smoke/cooks.

Is there a test (ohms?) to determend the watts of the side element?
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: KevinG on June 28, 2010, 01:01:26 PM
P=VI
V=IR, so I = V/R
Measure the resistance
Divide the voltage by the resistance to get the current
Multiply the current times the voltage and you'll get the power.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 28, 2010, 01:06:12 PM
Quote from: KevinG on June 28, 2010, 01:01:26 PM
P=VI
V=IR, so I = V/R
Measure the resistance
Divide the voltage by the resistance to get the current
Multiply the current times the voltage and you'll get the power.


Kevin, I only speak english. ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: KevinG on June 28, 2010, 01:21:29 PM
lol

(120 / Resistance) X 120 = power
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 28, 2010, 01:31:32 PM
ok I know i have a 1250 watt element.

I O'ed out the metter.

I tested it and it read .6  (between 0 and 1) on x10 scale.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: KevinG on June 28, 2010, 01:36:06 PM
It's sounds like you might be using the wrong scale on your meter, you should be getting around 11.5. I think you might need to be on the X1 scale. You also have to have it disconnected from the circuit otherwise you can get some bad readings.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 28, 2010, 01:58:37 PM
I have alarm, then X10.

Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: KevinG on June 28, 2010, 02:03:17 PM
It almost sounds like that 1250 W element is for a 240 volt system.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 28, 2010, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: KevinG on June 28, 2010, 02:03:17 PM
It almost sounds like that 1250 W element is for a 240 volt system.

It is the element off the old smokey that I plug into 110.

based on what you told me that I should have gotten a reading of 11.5,

I had to multiply my 5.75 reading by 20.

I took a reading on the unknown element and got 8.5 X 20 = 17 / 120 = 7 x 120 = 840.

So I am calling it a 1000 watt element.

I have a cheapo meter. ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 28, 2010, 02:18:52 PM
Thanks Kevin.

I just took a reading on an element that is advertised as a 1500 watt.

And by using those calculation, it came out to 1440.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: KevinG on June 28, 2010, 02:21:37 PM
Glad it worked out.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: Mr Walleye on June 28, 2010, 04:54:03 PM
CRG

Your getting great heat out of that 1500 watt element.

I agree with HawkeyeSmokes, get the top vent in and mount a smoke generator in it and do some test runs.

Mike
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 29, 2010, 08:00:06 AM
I have a small vent at the top. 1 1/2 vent tube.

I did one more test run using the 1200 watt element out of the

Old Smokey that I fixed for my Step Father.

30 mins/224*

45 mins/254*

1 hr/282*

1 hr 15 mins/298*

Also ordered a smoke generator for it last nite.

Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: TestRocket on June 29, 2010, 11:08:17 AM
Quote from: squirtthecat on June 27, 2010, 05:07:28 PM
Looks like it'll be plenty powerful enough..
Get yourself another PID (or even a Ranco) to reign that sucker in.

Be careful: The Auber-WS is only rated for 12A at 120VAC and 1440 watts. 
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: squirtthecat on June 29, 2010, 11:15:18 AM
Quote from: TestRocket on June 29, 2010, 11:08:17 AM
Quote from: squirtthecat on June 27, 2010, 05:07:28 PM
Looks like it'll be plenty powerful enough..
Get yourself another PID (or even a Ranco) to reign that sucker in.

Be careful: The Auber-WS is only rated for 12A at 120VAC and 1440 watts. 

That's about what the Ranco is rated at as well. (maybe a bit less)  He'd need a SSR in between.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 29, 2010, 11:20:19 AM
I have two PIDs I willtry first.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on June 30, 2010, 08:46:05 AM
My Bradley SS Smoke generator was shipped yesterday and hopefully

will have it before the weekend to play with.

I will run a few more test with smoke gen and combination of elements

next week.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: TestRocket on June 30, 2010, 09:20:42 AM
Good luck and I look forward too seeing how it works out.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 05, 2010, 10:24:32 AM
Smoke Generator sat at UPS office 30 minutes from my house since thursday,

and today they are off for the 4th.

So I guess, hope, I will get it tomorrow.

Dang it!
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: TestRocket on July 05, 2010, 03:24:17 PM
I hate it when that happens! Tomorrows the day!
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 07, 2010, 01:12:29 PM
The Smoke Generator came in and what a thing of Beauty.

Kinda makes me wish I had bought a SS-BS.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12399.jpg)

Came with a 60 pk Variety Pk. $134/free shipping.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: TestRocket on July 08, 2010, 02:46:58 PM
I think I have seen that business end sticking out the back end of a hot rod?  ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 09, 2010, 06:55:59 PM
Cut the 5" hole today and got the generator installed.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12406.jpg)

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12405.jpg)

Also added 4 600 lb casters. Nice!

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12407.jpg)
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: DarqMan on July 09, 2010, 07:02:35 PM
When's the first smoke?
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 09, 2010, 07:13:31 PM
Still have some more things to do.

Am gonna run so more test runs tomorrow with the elements shielded and the smoke gen running.

Once I decide the power to be used, it all has to get bolted down and wired up and drip covers made.

Maybe next weekend.

Gonna empty the freezer! ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: DarqMan on July 09, 2010, 07:21:22 PM
Wish I lived there and you had it done last week when my freezer died. 

THAT would have been loads of fun my friend!
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: ArnieM on July 09, 2010, 07:40:41 PM
You should have gotten the dual exhaust model Sonny  ;D  It really looks pretty impressive.  I can hardly wait to see how it all works.  How many pork butts again?
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: Gizmo on July 09, 2010, 11:13:40 PM
Quick, get that internal shine off that toy tool.   ;D
Get the smoke rolling.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: Mr Walleye on July 10, 2010, 07:13:01 AM
Lookin' good Sonny!

Mike
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: Sailor on July 10, 2010, 07:43:30 AM
nice job so far.....can't wait to see if finished and to see how it works.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 07:44:21 AM
When I mounted the smoke gen to the cabinet, it kinda moves.

Did you guys screw the adaptor plate to the cabinet to stablize it or just not

worry about it
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: Mr Walleye on July 10, 2010, 07:48:31 AM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 07:44:21 AM
When I mounted the smoke gen to the cabinet, it kinda moves.

Did you guys screw the adaptor plate to the cabinet to stablize it or just not

worry about it

On the ones I have built I did. I pre-drilled all 4 corners and mounted it to the cabinet. Also, on the interior I ran a bead of hi-temp silicone around it to seal it up.

Mike
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 07:54:29 AM
Quote from: Mr Walleye on July 10, 2010, 07:48:31 AM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 07:44:21 AM
When I mounted the smoke gen to the cabinet, it kinda moves.

Did you guys screw the adaptor plate to the cabinet to stablize it or just not

worry about it

On the ones I have built I did. I pre-drilled all 4 corners and mounted it to the cabinet. Also, on the interior I ran a bead of hi-temp silicone around it to seal it up.

Mike

Thanks Mike. You made my decision I had made unanimous.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: KyNola on July 10, 2010, 07:58:30 AM
Looking forward to see this thing in action.  Looks like it might hold a pound or two of homemade boudin. ;)

Nice work Sonny.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: DarqMan on July 10, 2010, 09:33:49 AM
Will I get to see this baby in action at TSO?
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 09:43:33 AM
Quote from: DarqMan on July 10, 2010, 09:33:49 AM
Will I get to see this baby in action at TSO?

I hope not! I think we will have enough toys/tools to play with. ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: DarqMan on July 10, 2010, 09:46:21 AM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 09:43:33 AM
Quote from: DarqMan on July 10, 2010, 09:33:49 AM
Will I get to see this baby in action at TSO?

I hope not! I think we will have enough toys/tools to play with. ;D

:'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 09:58:09 AM
Quote from: DarqMan on July 10, 2010, 09:46:21 AM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 09:43:33 AM
Quote from: DarqMan on July 10, 2010, 09:33:49 AM
Will I get to see this baby in action at TSO?

I hope not! I think we will have enough toys/tools to play with. ;D

:'( :'( :'(

Well we can't ask the Camp Site to re-wire their electricity for US. ;D

I guess we could, but they would probably say .... NO!
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: DarqMan on July 10, 2010, 10:16:49 AM
I understand. 

In the TSO post when you said you had a surprise and I said i knew what it was... well I thought this was it.  I guess I'm not psychic after all.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: NePaSmoKer on July 10, 2010, 06:14:54 PM
I guess i gotta start working on mine.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 06:32:43 PM
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on July 10, 2010, 06:14:54 PM
I guess i gotta start working on mine.

When you decide you want to, let me know and I'll re-cycle my 5" hole saw to ya.

It will save you $40.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: hal4uk on July 10, 2010, 07:33:13 PM
Looks perfect!  Did that hole saw take a while?  Or did it cruise?
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 08:14:56 PM
Quote from: hal4uk on July 10, 2010, 07:33:13 PM
Looks perfect!  Did that hole saw take a while?  Or did it cruise?

No Video! Was like Butter!

Bought some Cutting oil to use with it and it actually quite easy and just a perfect hole.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: hal4uk on July 10, 2010, 09:52:35 PM
Cool...  Looks like it fit/worked perfect...
(But DANG!!!  I wanted VIDEO!!!)
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 10:23:22 PM
Quote from: hal4uk on July 10, 2010, 09:52:35 PM
Cool...  Looks like it fit/worked perfect...
(But DANG!!!  I wanted VIDEO!!!)

I'll post pics of my "FINE" cut tomorrow along with pics of my hand

to show I have no Battle Scars! ;D

Now cutting the holes at the top to make them the same size is a different story.

Took all day and all the brain cells I had left to accomplish that! ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: hal4uk on July 10, 2010, 10:43:21 PM
Huh?  You're cutting MULTIPLE 5" Exhausts?   :o
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 10:50:50 PM
The 5" on the side was for the smoke gen.

Was no "hole" before so that was easy.

The exhaust hole on top was 1 1/4" on the inside and 2 1/4" on the top side.

They are now both 2 1/4".

Try cutting smokething with a hole saw and not having a place for your drill bit to

go thru to help you get a "grove" for the hole saw to start.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 10:58:45 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 10:50:50 PM
The 5" on the side was for the smoke gen.

Was no "hole" before so that was easy.

The exhaust hole on top was 1 1/4" on the inside and 2 1/4" on the top side.

They are now both 2 1/4".

Try cutting smokething with a hole saw and not having a place for your drill bit to

go thru to help you get a "grove" for the hole saw to start.

It's like the Monkey and the Football. ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: hal4uk on July 10, 2010, 11:02:19 PM
Ahh... Those exhaust sizes make more sense..
And Yeahhhhh...  Cutting a hole where one already is... AIN'T EASY...
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 11:26:12 PM
I'll sell you the secrect for 1/2 price. ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: NePaSmoKer on July 11, 2010, 07:32:36 AM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 06:32:43 PM
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on July 10, 2010, 06:14:54 PM
I guess i gotta start working on mine.

When you decide you want to, let me know and I'll re-cycle my 5" hole saw to ya.

It will save you $40.

Thanks Sonny

Now can anyone send me some time to do it   :D  :D  ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 11, 2010, 12:07:57 PM
GRRRRR!

Brisquette Burner doesn't heat up on new smoke generator!

Guess I follow the advice I've given others.

"Give Bradley a Call on Monday! They will fix you up!"

Took it apart to check for loose or unplug wires and everything is hooked up.

Any suggestions, I'll listen.

I know FAQ! ;D

You might want to check out our FAQ's
http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?p=748#post748

Thanks CRG for that quick reply.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 11, 2010, 12:12:44 PM
FAQ doesn't cover that!

Boogers!
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: Mr Walleye on July 11, 2010, 12:15:18 PM
Sonny

When you had it apart did you try un-plugging the various plugs and re-connecting them?

Sometimes it's just a bad connection that appears to be good.

Also the fuse but I'm sure you have checked that.

Mike
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 11, 2010, 12:19:39 PM
Everything works but the hot plate.

I am doing the unplug re plug now and in the mean time put my OBS smoke gen on it for some test runs.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 11, 2010, 12:28:54 PM
Every thing is working.

The main plug in to the hot plate the pin had slide backwards and was not making contact.

Hot plate is getting HOT!

Thanks again Mike.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: Mr Walleye on July 11, 2010, 12:31:35 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on July 11, 2010, 12:28:54 PM
Every thing is working.

The main plug in to the hot plate the pin had slide backwards and was not making contact.

Hot plate is getting HOT!

Thanks again Mike.

Awesome!  ;)

Mike
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: TestRocket on July 11, 2010, 02:43:16 PM
Glad you go it CRG. Don't forget to cancel that call to Bradley on Monday!
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 11, 2010, 02:50:53 PM
Quote from: TestRocket on July 11, 2010, 02:43:16 PM
Glad you go it CRG. Don’t forget to cancel that call to Bradley on Monday!

I took it off my "ToDo" list. ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: KevinG on July 11, 2010, 02:52:22 PM
We were going to have to cut your pay if you didn't figure that one out.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 11, 2010, 03:06:51 PM
Quote from: KevinG on July 11, 2010, 02:52:22 PM
We were going to have to cut your pay if you didn't figure that one out.


I look at that wire three times and it looked ok and when I took it apart the wire just about fell out.

Here some pics of what a nice job the whole saw did.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12408.jpg)

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12409.jpg)

The Bradley hole calls for 125 mm hole, but a 5" hole saw is 127mm.

Talk with Mike and he said he had pre drilled hole in the adaptor plate and secured it to the Cabinet. I did the same.

I also put hi-Temp silicon around the inside hole to keep smoke out of the insulation.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12410.jpg)

Here it is all put back together finished.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12411.jpg)
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: KevinG on July 11, 2010, 03:21:57 PM
Professional looking job!
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on July 11, 2010, 04:05:17 PM
Nice work Sonny.

Glad to hear you got the SG working.

Did you have a chance to run any temperature checks?
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 11, 2010, 04:15:19 PM
Quote from: HawkeyeSmokes on July 11, 2010, 04:05:17 PM
Nice work Sonny.

Glad to hear you got the SG working.

Did you have a chance to run any temperature checks?

Am doin them now.

Am only running the element that came with it and the smoke gen hot plate.

I am just about to call it quits and let things cool down and plug it into the Auber.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 11, 2010, 04:35:34 PM
Had 5 racks and probe the top two with the ET-73

The bottom two with the ET-7

The middle rack with an oven gauge

The smoke gen had been on about 40 minutes and the temps read

(73) 123 & 123
(7) 124 & 118
Oven gauge on the middle shelf 125

30 minutes later.

(73) 206 & 204
(7) 195 & 185
OT 200

1 hr mark

(73) 245 & 242
(7) 237 & 221
OT 240

1 1/2 hr

(73) 268 & 267
(7) 262 & 246
OT 268

2 hr mark (this is where I shut it down)

(73) 277 & 275
(7) 269 & 255
OT 275
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 11, 2010, 04:36:48 PM
I re installed the element cover so it was shielded.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: Smokin Soon on July 11, 2010, 06:19:11 PM
Yer doin good CRG, that will be a great smokin machine. I am jealous!! Allways wanted a big smokehouse for my hunting buds.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 11, 2010, 06:34:09 PM
Quote from: Smokin Soon on July 11, 2010, 06:19:11 PM
Yer doin good CRG, that will be a great smokin machine. I am jealous!! Allways wanted a big smokehouse for my hunting buds.

I'll hunt you down one. ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: Quarlow on July 11, 2010, 08:38:20 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on July 10, 2010, 10:50:50 PM
The 5" on the side was for the smoke gen.

Was no "hole" before so that was easy.

The exhaust hole on top was 1 1/4" on the inside and 2 1/4" on the top side.

They are now both 2 1/4".

Try cutting smokething with a hole saw and not having a place for your drill bit to

go thru to help you get a "grove" for the hole saw to start.
I have had to do this a time or two and I found the best way was to clamp a piece of plywood over the exsisting hole and then use it to be the center bits new guide. Then just cut your new hole right threw the plywood. Not sure how you did yours Sonny but this is just some food for thought for next time or anyone else who might be scratching their head to do this.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 12, 2010, 08:42:14 AM
 Kinda what I did Q.

I took the 5" circle piece I cut out of the side and centered it top

to bottom and cut out the hole to match.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: NePaSmoKer on July 12, 2010, 09:06:51 AM
Here are some pics of mine.

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/DSCF6842.jpg)


(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/DSCF6843.jpg)


(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/DSCF6844.jpg)


(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/DSCF6846.jpg)


(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/DSCF6848.jpg)


(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/DSCF6849.jpg)


On my smokehouse vent i went from 6" adaptor w/flap to 4" pipe w/cap.
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/DSCF6850.jpg)
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 12, 2010, 10:11:40 AM
After the Free Run test, I hooked up my PID and ran it thru another cycle

and that kinda told me I need more heat in the Cabinet, so I  am going to start with the

other element I tested before and let my two PID's run each element.

When I ran the PID and another small round of smoke off the smoke gen, I hated to

not use the smoke so I loaded up tomatillos, onions, garlic, jalapenos, tomato's.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12421.jpg)

Set the PID for 210* This is pretty much where it stayed.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12422.jpg)

Ended up making two quarts of non-smoked (on the left) and two quarts of smoked (on the right) of Salsa Verde.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12425.jpg)
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: squirtthecat on July 12, 2010, 10:14:03 AM

Is that a ginormous Frog Mat?
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 12, 2010, 10:25:14 AM
Bought a Sheet of it at Allied and cut 8 for the Big Smoker.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: NePaSmoKer on July 12, 2010, 10:29:05 AM
I think my PID will run mine to.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: DarqMan on July 12, 2010, 08:57:32 PM
These massive homemade smokers are just too cool.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 12, 2010, 09:11:42 PM
I've got measurements for all my inside metal work and hope to get that done tomorrow.

Also have a list of electrical supplies.

Maybe this weekend I might be ready to smoke a COW!
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: ArnieM on July 12, 2010, 09:41:50 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on July 12, 2010, 09:11:42 PM

Maybe this weekend I might be ready to smoke a COW!

Could you do a moose?  Never had that  ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: hal4uk on July 12, 2010, 09:55:16 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on July 12, 2010, 09:11:42 PM
Maybe this weekend I might be ready to smoke a COW!

Just one?
;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: mikeradio on July 13, 2010, 09:32:21 AM
Hey CRG

The exhaust fan is shipping to you today.

MIke

(http://www.interiorhobbies.com/mmIH/Images/smoker/img_0069.jpg)
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 13, 2010, 09:42:45 AM
Quote from: mikeradio on July 13, 2010, 09:32:21 AM
Hey CRG

The exhaust fan is shipping to you today.

MIke

(http://www.interiorhobbies.com/mmIH/Images/smoker/img_0069.jpg)

It will get put to good use!

Thanks again Mike.

Sonny
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 15, 2010, 09:42:38 PM
I pick up all my metal from the fabricator today and if I feel up to it gonna install it tomorrow.

Have to do some Hi-temp caulking in a few areas and hope to have some smoke in it by Sunday.

Had to have some shoulder work yesterday and been taking pain and muscle relaxers so I am not too

gun-hole on doing anything. Maybe tomorrow.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: DarqMan on July 15, 2010, 09:49:16 PM
I'm anxious to see the smoke rolling out... take care of that shoulder Sonny.
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: ArnieM on July 15, 2010, 09:52:48 PM
A little MM should help your shoulder Sonny.  Just don't take it with the pills  :-\
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 15, 2010, 09:57:34 PM
Quote from: DarqMan on July 15, 2010, 09:49:16 PM
I'm anxious to see the smoke rolling out... take care of that shoulder Sonny.

I will be also and if I have to go to 220 element everything I have done will work.

Right now all is good in Mudville. Casy hasn't struck out yet!

Quote from: ArnieM on July 15, 2010, 09:52:48 PM
A little MM should help your shoulder Sonny.  Just don't take it with the pills  :-\

Too late, the deed is done. ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: TestRocket on July 16, 2010, 07:07:32 PM
Be sure to heal first...playtime can come later!
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: KevinG on July 16, 2010, 08:17:57 PM
Doc patch you up right? Shoulders can be problemsome, my brother had issues with his, he can't play baseball anymore. Take it easy Sonny!
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 16, 2010, 08:30:25 PM
Arm feels much better thanks!

Couple of shots and some good meds. ;D
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: DarqMan on July 16, 2010, 08:42:23 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on July 16, 2010, 08:30:25 PM
Arm feels much better thanks!

Couple of shots and some good meds. ;D

Glad to hear you're feeling better.  Take it easy for a while... we need the Smokin' Monkey in good health!
Title: Re: Test Run for Future Smoker
Post by: KyNola on July 16, 2010, 09:11:21 PM
Take care of yourself Sonny.  Hopefully it's not your drinking shoulder. :D

Seriously, take care of that shoulder.
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 25, 2010, 10:00:23 AM
The Smoker is at the point that I feel like it is ready to smoke something.

I never would have or could have put this thing together with out HELP.

That's what makes this Forum so great! We have some very smart people

here who are willing to pass on their knowledge. I ask Mr. Walleye (Mike)

and HawkeyeSmokes (Dale) a lot of questions. And neither one laugh at

my stupidity. (At least not out loud. ;D ) Thanks Ya'll Very Much!

I had decided to make this with what I had. It had a 1000 watt element

(110 volt) on the right side. I added a 1250 watt element across the bottom.

I am controlling each element with a SEPERATE Auber plug n' play PID that I

purchased for my Bradley's.

The drip shield across the back is installed temp. I kinda wanted it there to help

direct the heat off the back wall.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12466.jpg)

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12467.jpg)

Smoke Generator in place.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12469.jpg)

The junction box behind the smok gen is the wiring to the 1250 watt element that will get plugged into a PID.

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12468.jpg)

The 1000 watt wall element comes out the top of the smoker and that will get plugged into another PID.

Since I only used a 2 1/8" exhaust vent, I am using a Powervent that is slightly offset and raised 1/4" to

help with the exhaust flow. mikeradio sent that to me all the way from Canada. Thanks a bunch Mike!

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Test%20Run%20Future%20Smoker/SDC12470.jpg)

If I end up liking the two 110 element, I plan on having a PID built to combine everything into one controller.

I will still have to run on two separate 110 plugs unless I get an electrician out here.

Again, THANKS for all the help!
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: TTNuge on July 25, 2010, 10:03:31 AM
Can't wait to see the sausage and mega smokes that come out of there!  Looks great!
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: ronbeaux on July 25, 2010, 10:05:49 AM
Pack that baby full CRG!
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 25, 2010, 10:11:19 AM
Quote from: TTNuge on July 25, 2010, 10:03:31 AM
Can't wait to see the sausage and mega smokes that come out of there!  Looks great!

I don't think you will have to wait very long.

Quote from: ronbeaux on July 25, 2010, 10:05:49 AM
Pack that baby full CRG!

Now that is what I was thinking. ;D
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: Quarlow on July 25, 2010, 10:14:07 AM
That looks great Sonny. You did an awesome job of it. Now I am going to have to start looking for one. Luckily we have a scrapper near here that handles food equipment.
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: ArnieM on July 25, 2010, 10:30:18 AM
Sounds like it's time for about 80 pounds of Boudin.
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: NePaSmoKer on July 25, 2010, 10:32:55 AM
Cool beans

Fire that bad boy (or girl) up  ;D
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: squirtthecat on July 25, 2010, 10:35:52 AM

Call the power company first....   They might need to bring another plant online!
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: hal4uk on July 25, 2010, 10:40:40 AM
Let-R-Rip!!!
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: GusRobin on July 25, 2010, 11:37:57 AM
Its looking good -enough fiddling -smoke something and post us some pictures.
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: Mr Walleye on July 25, 2010, 12:18:21 PM
Congrats Sonny!

Ya did an awesome Job!

Two thumbs up!  ;)

Mike
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: leftcoast smoker on July 25, 2010, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: Quarlow on July 25, 2010, 10:14:07 AM
That looks great Sonny. You did an awesome job of it. Now I am going to have to start looking for one. Luckily we have a scrapper near here that handles food equipment.
I have something I picked up a while ago, and I'm not going to use it anytime soon,
its yours for the taking if you want it Q, theres pics of it in an older thread I started
I'll see if I can dig it up
LCS
Found it
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac24/leftcoastsmoker/smokerwithaview001.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: TestRocket on July 25, 2010, 04:19:15 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on July 25, 2010, 10:00:23 AM
The Smoker is at the point that I feel like it is ready to smoke something.


If I end up liking the two 110 element, I plan on having a PID built to combine everything into one controller.

I will still have to run on two separate 110 plugs unless I get an electrician out here.

Again, THANKS for all the help!

Um...just thinking out loud but if you could find a SSR that could handle the current of both elements and it has a 110 VAC coil you could do it with a single PID. I've never looked for such an animal but someone else may have?
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: DarqMan on July 25, 2010, 04:29:11 PM
What can I say other than it looks amazing.

Standing ovation from Guthrie, OK ;D
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on July 25, 2010, 05:26:36 PM
Nice work Sonny!

Looks Great!

Ditto on what Mike said. Another 2 thumbs up!

;D ;D

Dale
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: TestRocket on July 25, 2010, 05:41:58 PM
On second thought (and looking back to see what both elements are) that is pushing 22 amps with the SG. Yea, you may need your own circuit breaker for this bad boy?
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 25, 2010, 07:34:49 PM
All my test runs were on two seperate circuits and the Smoke gen

plug separately into the same plug as the 1250 watt element.

I did have to run a Hvy Gg short cord to the 1000 watt element.
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: hal4uk on July 25, 2010, 07:41:30 PM
Test any PIG yet?
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: classicrockgriller on July 25, 2010, 07:44:36 PM
Quote from: hal4uk on July 25, 2010, 07:41:30 PM
Test any PIG yet?

Keep you eyes open.

May just pop on your screen any minute. ;D
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 20, 2010, 07:29:25 PM
Bump>
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: hal4uk on December 20, 2010, 10:20:45 PM
Yuuuhhh..  Hmmmm... Uhhh... Wazzup?
Title: Re: Future Smoker is Finished
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 20, 2010, 10:43:16 PM
I was actually looking for the smoke from this beast.

http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=17109.0