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Title: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: zueth on October 24, 2011, 10:08:09 AM
Last week I decided Sunday would be a perfect day to watch Football and smoke some salmon.  On Thursday evening I took out all the frozen salmon to thaw that I wanted to smoke.  On Friday night I made the Brine, it is a dry brine that consists of kosher salt dark brown sugar and some seasoning.  If anybody is interested I can post the recipe.
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Next I cut up the salmon and steelhead into even chunks and removed any bones.  I ended up with two bags of Fall Chinook, three bags of spring Chinook and one bag of steelhead  Should be a perfect amount for six racks.
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Then I applied even amounts of the brine over the fish and let sit on the garage counter for about 4 hours, then into the refrigerator until Sunday morning.
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Sunday morning I took them out of the brine and let them air dry for 2-3 hours.
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I seasoned them with fresh cracked pepper and dill.
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after the 2-3 hours into the smoker at 120, going to smoke with a mixture of alder and maple for 8 hours.  I cooked at 120 for 2 hours, then 140 for 4 hours, and finished at 170 until done.
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The Steelhead was done after 7 hours, the rest was done between 7 1/2 to 8 1/2 hours
Steelhead
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Fall Chinook
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Spring Chinook
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As you can see I had to take a taster of the spring Chinook it was very good.
I let them rest on my counter fro 1 hour or so then put them in ziplocs to rest in refrigerator for a couple of days.  Then I will vacuum pack and freeze what I won't eat immediately.





Title: Re: Lots of Smoke Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: TomW on October 24, 2011, 10:11:30 AM
Looks good!

Curious, you cooked till "done".  What indicator did you have?  On my first salmon, I think I could have quit an hour earlier, but don't know a reliable test for "done".

Thanks
Tom
Title: Re: Lots of Smoke Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: zueth on October 24, 2011, 10:28:26 AM
Quote from: TomW on October 24, 2011, 10:11:30 AM
Looks good!

Curious, you cooked till "done".  What indicator did you have?  On my first salmon, I think I could have quit an hour earlier, but don't know a reliable test for "done".

Thanks
Tom

I monitor the IT and anywhere between 125-130 is good.  But mainly I just look at it and if it flakes easily you know it is done as well.  a few of the pieces when I went to put in the probe they flaked apart and i knew they were done.  They were at 124.  Also make sure and put the thinner pieces on the same tray so you can pull those first.  Also, make sure and rotate racks every 2 hours or so.  rotate top to bottom and front to back.
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: viper125 on October 24, 2011, 04:45:34 PM
Looks good. Will try it that way. My neighbor smokes it but it is way too done, more of a dryed shoe sole.
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: Keymaster on October 24, 2011, 04:54:04 PM
Looks awesome!!! I'd love to try the dry cure recipe if you don't mind posting or PMing. I gotta go get some smoked salmon out of the freezer now ;D
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: zueth on October 24, 2011, 05:30:54 PM
1 cup kosher salt
6 cups packed dark brown sugar
2 TB of Dry Mustard Powder
2 TB of Old Bay
2 TB of Johnny's
2 TB of Garlic Powder
2 TB of Onion Powder
2 TB of Dill

I did 1 1/2 batch's of the brine for the fish that I did
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: Keymaster on October 24, 2011, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: zueth on October 24, 2011, 05:30:54 PM
1 cup kosher salt
6 cups packed dark brown sugar
2 TB of Dry Mustard Powder
2 TB of Old Bay
2 TB of Johnny's
2 TB of Garlic Powder
2 TB of Onion Powder
2 TB of Dill

I did 1 1/2 batch's of the brine for the fish that I did
Thanks so much, so with this recipe how many pounds of fish will this cure do you suppose?
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: Kummok on October 24, 2011, 06:41:07 PM
<Salivating> Fish looks great! Glad you posted the recipe....no need to ask to post recipe next time as we all love to learn what/how you came out with such great results!  :)
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: viper125 on October 25, 2011, 07:37:10 AM
I'm assuming and correct me if I'm wrong! Since their is no cure you just cover fish generously. Don't really matter the amount.
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: zueth on October 25, 2011, 07:57:36 AM
Quote from: Keymaster on October 24, 2011, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: zueth on October 24, 2011, 05:30:54 PM
1 cup kosher salt
6 cups packed dark brown sugar
2 TB of Dry Mustard Powder
2 TB of Old Bay
2 TB of Johnny's
2 TB of Garlic Powder
2 TB of Onion Powder
2 TB of Dill

I did 1 1/2 batch's of the brine for the fish that I did
Thanks so much, so with this recipe how many pounds of fish will this cure do you suppose?
With the brine I just make sure the fish are covered and then it will turn into a liquid.  Normally that is about 1 1/4 cups per gallon ziploc bag with 4-5 pieces in each bag.
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: zueth on October 25, 2011, 07:58:24 AM
Quote from: viper125 on October 25, 2011, 07:37:10 AM
I'm assuming and correct me if I'm wrong! Since their is no cure you just cover fish generously. Don't really matter the amount.

Correct I just make sure the fish is covered evenly, which is normally about 1 1/4 cups per gallon bag.
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: devo on October 25, 2011, 08:12:12 AM
What are these two seasonings?
2 TB of Old Bay
2 TB of Johnny's
Never heard of them
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: viper125 on October 25, 2011, 08:17:20 AM
I believe they mean Johnny's  seasoning salt.
As for the Old bay here is a recipe a little history on it. Or you can just buy it ready made.Old Bay Seasoning is a spice blend no kitchen should be without. Old Bay is a distinctive seasoning loved around the world for its bold, one-of-a-kind flavor that adds zest to seafood, chicken, salads, and much more. 

Old Bay Seasoning

1 tablespoon ground bay leaves
2 1/2 teaspoons celery salt
1 1/2 teaspoons dry mustard
1 1/2 teaspoons black pepper
3/4 teaspoons ground nutmeg
1/2 teaspoons ground cloves
1/2 teaspoons ground ginger
1/2 teaspoons paprika
1/2 teaspoons red pepper
1/4 teaspoons ground mace (optional)
1/4 teaspoons ground cardamom (optional)

Combine all ingredients and mix thoroughly. Store in an airtight container and store in a cool place. Makes about 1/4 cup

It's great also to season poultry, French fries, hamburgers, popped corn, pizza, baked potatoes, meats, deviled eggs, baked casseroles and fish.


Did You Know?

Old Bay Seasoning is named for the Chesapeake Bay area where it was developed by German immigrant Gustav Brunn in the 1940s, and where the seasoning is very popular to this day.

Potato chip manufacturer Herr's produces a variety of chips spiced with the seasoning, and Utz distributes a "crab chip" variety with an Old Bay analogue spice. Early in its history, the Subway sandwich shop used to use Old Bay when mixing their tuna sub.

Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: zueth on October 25, 2011, 09:02:38 AM
Quote from: devo on October 25, 2011, 08:12:12 AM
What are these two seasonings?
2 TB of Old Bay
2 TB of Johnny's
Never heard of them

Yep Viper nailed it, Old Bay is a great seafood seasoning, should be in most grocery stores, well at least is in every grocery store in Pacific North West and Johnny's seasoning salt, you could substitute lawrys seasoning salt if you don't have johnny's

Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: mikecorn.1 on October 25, 2011, 10:26:11 AM
NIce looking batch of fishies  ;D
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: Fisher on October 25, 2011, 10:29:14 AM
Looks great ...Good Job.
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: JZ on October 28, 2011, 07:46:21 PM
I'm curious --- what are those blocks next to the water bowl and on the top rack ---- bricks?

Do you use the door temp gauge or do you have a seperate thermometer in the smoker to determine the temp?

I have been fighting temperature problems when I do fish and you seem to have the issue resolved. I could never open the smoker and rotate racks because I can't get the temperatures to get up high enough, even without opening the door. But I am relying on the door thermometer for temp readings and I am told this is not reliable.

I will pick up an internal thermometer to use the next time I am in town ( it is an hour drive each way to the nearest big town so I don't want to make a special trip for a thermometer).

I would like to resolve my temp issue as I have a lot of fish to process.
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: Quarlow on October 28, 2011, 09:59:25 PM
JZ don't rely on the door thermo at all. It is at the front of the smoker and the element is at the back. You won't get proper temp info at all. Your temps were likely way higher than what the door thermo said.
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: zueth on October 29, 2011, 11:34:16 AM
Quote from: JZ on October 28, 2011, 07:46:21 PM
I'm curious --- what are those blocks next to the water bowl and on the top rack ---- bricks?

Do you use the door temp gauge or do you have a seperate thermometer in the smoker to determine the temp?

I have been fighting temperature problems when I do fish and you seem to have the issue resolved. I could never open the smoker and rotate racks because I can't get the temperatures to get up high enough, even without opening the door. But I am relying on the door thermometer for temp readings and I am told this is not reliable.

I will pick up an internal thermometer to use the next time I am in town ( it is an hour drive each way to the nearest big town so I don't want to make a special trip for a thermometer).

I would like to resolve my temp issue as I have a lot of fish to process.
They are bricks that I ran through the dishwasher a few times and wrapped with aluminum foil, I have two on the top rack and two by the water bowl.  They really help the cabinet keep heat when opening the door.  I don't pay attention to much to what the temp on the Bradley says it is at only when preheating, since I know that the temp is correct.  I have maverick 732 and that tells me the cabinet temp is right however, I didn't use it on this and don't normally use the BBQ temp probe on it.  I purchased a extra meat probe so that I can monitor two pieces of meat or fish at once.
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: dtjim on February 14, 2013, 11:27:36 AM
that looks good i have a steelhead in the brine right now. Do you rinse the brine off or leave it on. How long did you apply the smoke for
Title: Re: Lots of Smoked Salmon and Steelhead(lots of pics)
Post by: zueth on August 06, 2013, 03:42:42 PM
I do not rinse off the brine, just knock off the big chunks.  I applied smoke the whole time, 8 hours.