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Smoking Techniques => Cold Smoking => Topic started by: jbra on November 19, 2011, 10:00:53 AM

Title: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: jbra on November 19, 2011, 10:00:53 AM
I once had smoked chicken that I was told was cold smoked whole and never cooked.

It was served cold, and had cool moist texture. Chicken meat was pinkish. Chicken skin was very dark brown from all the smoke.

Delicious.

Anyone has a recipe for chicken like that?
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: Jim O on November 19, 2011, 12:57:43 PM
Don't think I'd want to eat chicken that hadn't been cooked !

Jim O
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 19, 2011, 01:18:05 PM
I've never heard of it. I just can't picture an uncooked cold smoked chicken.

The pinkish color was likely from a cure containing sodium nitrite. If it was cured with sodium nitrite  then it is generally hot smoked. Often a lot of people confuse the terms cold smoke, and hot smoke, so you may want to follow up on the information that was given to you. Hot smoking is using temperatures from 100°F - 180°F, and cold smoking is below 90°F. When the chicken is hot smoked, a temperature between 170°F to 180°F is generally used. You would still bring the internal temperature up to 165°F in the deepest part of the thigh. i
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: Sailor on November 19, 2011, 01:18:28 PM
No way that I would eat poultry that had not been cooked.  Yikes
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: KyNola on November 19, 2011, 02:02:35 PM
Nope, no way, heck no.  Not this guy and I love steak, salmon or tuna tartare.  But "raw" chicken?  Nope.
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 19, 2011, 02:21:50 PM
This topic got me interested, so I did a quick search. I found a couple of cold smoked chicken's, but after the cold smoke, they were cooked at a higher temperature until fully cooked.

Here is one find: Cold Smoke Chicken Legs (http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Cold-Smoked-Chicken-Legs-in-a-Chinese-Cure-232188)

You should follow up to make sure the information that was past on to you was correct.
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: jbra on November 19, 2011, 02:36:37 PM
Perhaps I am mistaken.

Hypothetically, is there any kind of recipe for smoking chicken that involves perhaps curing, then very long period of cold smoking and that's it?
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: ArnieM on November 19, 2011, 02:50:20 PM
I'm with everyone else.  There are a lot of things I'll eat raw or rare.  Poultry ISN'T one of them.
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: ghost9mm on November 19, 2011, 02:57:01 PM
Yes...what all the rest said...no poultry of any kind...
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 20, 2011, 01:55:35 AM
Quote from: jbra on November 19, 2011, 02:36:37 PM
Perhaps I am mistaken.

Hypothetically, is there any kind of recipe for smoking chicken that involves perhaps curing, then very long period of cold smoking and that's it?

None that I can think of, and if you dried cured and cold smoked chicken over a long period of time, the texture would not be moist. I have dried cured cuts of beef, pork and a variety of sausages over a long period of time; uncooked, but never seen one for chicken. Also, though I haven't found a second source for this (though I haven't researched this in a while), but I once came across a reputable site that sells curing products that stated in their description of Cure #1 that sodium nitrite does not kill or control the growth of salmonella.
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: jbra on November 20, 2011, 05:56:38 AM
Thanks fellas. Hot smoking brined chicken now.

I guess the info I was given must have been wrong.
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: jbra on November 20, 2011, 09:42:10 AM
Brined in Alton Brown's poultry brine for 6h. Air dried in fridge for 8h.
Rubbed in a mix of salt, pepper, garlic, red and green bell peppers, parsley and garlic infused extra virgin olive oil.
Smoked at 200F in Bradley with Hickory for 2.5h until internal got ot 145F.
Finished in oven at 350 until internal was at 160. Let it rest for 20m under foil.

(http://www.cryohold.com/pics/smoker/IMG_3530.jpg)

(http://www.cryohold.com/pics/smoker/IMG_3531.jpg)
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: Sailor on November 20, 2011, 09:45:07 AM
Wow ....that looks good. 
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: ArnieM on November 20, 2011, 11:23:05 AM
Now that looks A LOT BETTER than cold smoked chicken.  Were you satisfied with the result?
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: jbra on November 20, 2011, 11:32:10 AM
Everything except the skin. I think my rub had a tad too much salt and skin was not crispy enough for my liking.

The meat itself was out of this world.

To get the skin crispier, do i just finish at higher temp in oven than 350?
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: ArnieM on November 20, 2011, 12:12:29 PM
Quote from: jbra on November 20, 2011, 11:32:10 AM

To get the skin crispier, do i just finish at higher temp in oven than 350?

Sure.  I use this for beef roast too.  Cook low and slow.  Pull when almost done and let it rest for a half hour or so.  Crank up the oven to 425.  Put the meat in the oven for 8-10 minutes or until you get as much 'crisp' as you want.  Remove from oven and carve.  It has already rested so there's no need for a further rest.
Title: Re: Need help cold smoking chicken
Post by: jbra on November 20, 2011, 02:18:33 PM
Quote from: ArnieM on November 20, 2011, 12:12:29 PM
Sure.  I use this for beef roast too.  Cook low and slow.  Pull when almost done and let it rest for a half hour or so.  Crank up the oven to 425.  Put the meat in the oven for 8-10 minutes or until you get as much 'crisp' as you want.  Remove from oven and carve.  It has already rested so there's no need for a further rest.

Nice. No more resting is great. Ill try that next time.