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Title: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: viper125 on December 07, 2012, 12:22:18 PM
I was feeling a little better the past few day so started my Meat. De-boned a whole pork  front leg.  More commonly know as a Picnic ham and pork butt! 

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Here is the big nasty gland removed.

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Saving the bone of coarse for beans,broth or soup probably.And for those that don't know it has a lot of medical properties in the hills, Most common for colds and flues. Yep!  Any fresh made broth not just chicken broth. And store bought don't contain that. Also good for a water substitute in meats and meals.

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Then I run it threw My Turbo Grinder. In less then 5 minutes or so run it through the coarse and fine plates. Pretty cheap grinder on eBay but does a great job. a little noisy though and big. But I like Big. No dicing in small pieces and no chocking up. This is a coarse grind.

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Hers the fine grind.

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Add the Pork to the mixer and the Venison on top. Dont mind the bare feet, as this is a normal for me. With the diabetes and the peripheral neuropathy cant stand socks or shoes.

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THe Kirby Mixer by Pikeman) Really nice easy way to mix or emulsify in minutes.

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Meat with spices added and emulsified. Now add the powdered milk. If added sooner it would suck up the water and wouldn't emulsify or mix right.

Then into my 5 lb.  Enterprise Stuffer!

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Photo of me and my stuffer. LOL!


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Cant forget my helper she does all my cranking for me. Don't like her photo took with out fixing up. Caught her off guard. But my Beautiful Wife Kathy even though shes not at her finest. She's always around to help when I need her. God bless her heart when we stuffed these she asked when we'd have the money for a Kirby stuffer too! Always thinking about me and buying for me.

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Using the the  1 1/2 lb casings you only get 7 rings. Normally use 1 1/4 lb.   
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So off to my Bradley set up. Already running

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Into the smoker;

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And getting good and smoky!

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Now I know store bought ring Bologna isn't smoked. But all mine meat is! LOL!  Sorry for the cell phone pics but that,s the best I could do. And sorry its so long winded but its been a while since I could really post something. Will post finale pics when done.




Title: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: Sam3 on December 07, 2012, 01:56:05 PM
Looks good Viper. You using a pre-made mix or your own?
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: viper125 on December 07, 2012, 02:08:23 PM
NO! Don't really use them. I got one from here and been tweaking it  to our taste. Turns out excellent. Tried to find the original owner to give credit but no one claimed it. And there are several I see based about the same here. But either way this is the best I have ever found.  And trail Bologna is a name given to it for the Troyer's Brand ring Bologna because that's the city it was made in. I call mine Trail because this is what I want mine like. Probably the only store bought meat for me to rate that high. We used it a lot growing up fishing and hunting and still do. A ring in your pocket and a good hunk of your favorite cheese and you and some one else was fed for the day.
Any way here's the recipe I use these days and think its really close when Emulsified. Hope you enjoy it!

Like to give Kudos to those that made this but no one has confessed. :) But its a typical German Bologna Style I would say.  And it has been tweaked a bit.
Trail bologna for 10 lbs.   

7 lbs Venison or 90/10 Beef
2 lbs. pork butt
1 lb. beef or pork fat or another lb. of butt If butts are fatty I use but if not then add fat.
4 Tbs Kosher Salt
2 tsp cure #1.......level tsp
2 Tbs Spanish Paprika
2 1/2 Tbs  Onion Powder
3 Tbs garlic powder
3 tsp ground white pepper
2 tsp cardamom, ground
3 tsp mustard powder
3 tsp red pepper flakes
2 tsp mace
1/2 cup corn syrup solids
1/4 cup powdered dextrose
1.5 cup water
2 cups non-fat-dry milk 

For a 10 lb batch you will need 8 trail bologna rounds. You can use straight bologna casings also. Soak the casings for 45 mins in cold water and 1 Tbs salt added. Rinse before stuffing.
  Mix all the above dry with the water .  Stuff casings and ring the end.   Place in smoker at 140* for 1.5 hrs to dry casings. Smoke at 140.* for 1 hour 1 hour at 150* then to 165* and your looking for a meat IT of 150 -155*   Chill in cold water till approx 90* Then hang and Bloom.

For emulsifying Here is some good advise.

Quote from HAB on Emulsifying.(Thank You!)
If I am making emulsified sausage, I will use the stainless steel blade from start to finish. I grind the meat and fat separate, and keep them separated. After grinding I chill the meat, and fat. When mixing I use chipped ice and add all the seasoning to the meat; except soy protein concentrate or powdered milk. If you add that at the beginning, those ingredients will bind up too much water, not leaving enough to fully emulsify with the meat. Process until the meat temperature reaches 40°F, add fat and continue to process until meat reaches around 45°F. Add powdered milk or soy protein, and process until the meat reaches 55°F. Be careful at that last step. If the meat reaches 60°F, the emulsification will be ruined.
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: Mr Walleye on December 07, 2012, 04:11:24 PM
Nice job Viper!

It looks excellent!  ;)

Mike
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: SiFumar on December 07, 2012, 04:45:07 PM
Looks great!  Love your old stuffer!
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: Keymaster on December 07, 2012, 05:31:03 PM
Those look great Viper, bet that stuffer must way a hefty 60# or so?
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: viper125 on December 07, 2012, 06:26:47 PM
ahh probably 15 or 20 maybe. But its all cast Iron and they are a great stuffer.
Next one will be a Kirby when I get rich!  :-[
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: viper125 on December 07, 2012, 06:36:08 PM
By the way here is the recipe I use. In case any one is interested in trying.

Like to give Kudos to those that made this but no one has confessed. :) But its a typical German Bologna Style I would say.  And it has been tweaked a bit.

Trail bologna for 10 lbs.   

7 lbs Venison or 90/10 Beef
2 lbs. pork butt
1 lb. beef or pork fat or another lb. of butt  ( i find the butts around here have plenty of fat)
4 Tbs Kosher Salt
2 tsp cure #1.......level tsp
2 Tbs Spanish Paprika
2 1/2 Tbs  Onion Powder
3 Tbs garlic powder
3 tsp ground white pepper
2 tsp cardamom, ground
3 tsp mustard powder
3 tsp red pepper flakes
2 tsp mace
1/2 cup corn syrup solids
1/4 cup powdered dextrose
1.5 cup water
2 cups non-fat-dry milk

For a 10 lb batch you will need 8 trail bologna rounds. You can use straight bologna casings also. Soak the casings for 45 mins in cold water and 1 Tbs salt added. Rinse before stuffing.
  Mix all the above dry with the water .  Stuff casings and ring the end.   Place in smoker at 140* for 1.5 hrs to dry casings. Smoke at 140.* for 1 hour 1 hour at 150* then to 165* and your looking for a meat IT of 150 -155*   Chill in cold water till approx 90* Then hang.

For emulsifying Here is some good advise.

Quote from HAB on Emulsifying.(Thank You!)
If I am making emulsified sausage, I will use the stainless steel blade from start to finish. I grind the meat and fat separate, and keep them separated. After grinding I chill the meat, and fat. When mixing I use chipped ice and add all the seasoning to the meat; except soy protein concentrate or powdered milk. If you add that at the beginning, those ingredients will bind up too much water, not leaving enough to fully emulsify with the meat. Process until the meat temperature reaches 40°F, add fat and continue to process until meat reaches around 45°F. Add powdered milk or soy protein, and process until the meat reaches 55°F. Be careful at that last step. If the meat reaches 60°F, the emulsification will be ruined.
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: viper125 on December 07, 2012, 08:44:23 PM
Well all done and had to screw up! Was getting close to bed time and decided to rush it!~ Yeah I know first mistake, Then realized Maverick was still in garage. Yep second mistake. When I enter the kitchen had a small stream of smoke. Definitely not good. Well hurried and pulled and threw in cold water. Couple cases split but not bad and casings were a little darker then I like. Picked the worse one to slice and it is excellent and not dry at all. Not fated out and Delicious. Think it might be because the meat is tighter with emulsifying it. Well not the best looking I have made but definitely a keeper.I will slice all mine any way and seal and freeze till time to eat. This keeps very well! No one the wiser once the cases are removed.  ;) ;) Will be great with crackers and cheese.

But here is  pic after cooling and of course the best looking sides.  ::)

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Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: Consooger on December 07, 2012, 09:16:19 PM
wow that looks fantastic. The color on that is very nice!
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: Habanero Smoker on December 08, 2012, 01:46:27 AM
Thanks for posting the recipe. You have inspired me. I'm may make some sausage sometime next week.
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: OU812 on December 08, 2012, 11:40:26 AM
OK now Im REALLY hungry!

Looks really good Viper,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thanks for the recipe
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: viper125 on December 08, 2012, 04:35:44 PM
Well I have tested it on 10 of my toughest friends who don't even like deer. And all said the same. Excellent. My non wild game eating son in law has become an eater! LOL! All sliced and ready for the holidays now.
But Kirby's mixer and blade makes a huge difference. The texture is like a store bought lunch meat. Some thing seems most today enjoy. And seems even when over cooked some it remains moist and solid not crumbly. My wife really loves the texture and I may try some other sausages and meats emulsified. It also gets a lot better mix then any way I've ever done it so makes for a better tasting mix too!
So give it a try and if you got a Kirby mixer use it and if not get one!
A big thank You to Kirby!
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: OU812 on December 08, 2012, 05:08:55 PM
Its on my to do list,,,,,right after the snack sticks Im doin towarrow
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: viper125 on December 09, 2012, 01:24:53 PM
Thanks for the compliments. I am including a few money shots or close ups. The bag is about five lbs of sliced. Ready to bag up in smaller portions. This freezes excellent and have eaten it over a year later. Saved a ring to ship to Indiana to an old fellow, He was a smoker to but cant do it any more. He is wheel chair bound and very limited. Meet him on line a few years ago.So when I make things I usually mail him some. Figure it wont be long now till I get that way. Also have guy bring 20 lbs of venison for me to do. Keeps me busy. If you check the close up you can see the difference emulsifying does. Changes texture, and helps hold the moisture and get a better mix of spices and cure. oh the cracked edges you see is wher a couple rings split, their fine just not as pretty. But this bunch dont care as long as they taste good! ;)

5# bag
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Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 09, 2012, 02:03:15 PM
Now i just need cheese n  crackers

Looks good
Title: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: rooster85 on December 09, 2012, 05:39:00 PM
Looks great! Something for me to try next year!

Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: pikeman_95 on December 09, 2012, 06:57:14 PM

Paul
I think you did great. I will make sure that I keep this recipe. Thanks for all the support. I am going to have to find time to do some of this. They look so good and I love bologna. Hope you are feeling better. I have been trying to put away some meat so I can do some of this.
Kirby
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: viper125 on December 09, 2012, 07:35:36 PM
Hope your feeling better too! Yes me Im moving some now. Still rough but you do what you have too! I dont get much left over money with all the meds and doctors and normal winter bills. So I find the best deals I can when I have a few dollars and save to get enough to make. My neighbor give me his button buck and helped clean and cut. So with a 20.00 investment of a cheap pork leg I have some to do now. Doing some tomorrow i think of bacon. And hope to do some snack sticks in a couple days. Just don't have the strength any more to do much more then every few days. Been a long hard road but beats what the doctors have said for years. LOL! Told me in 85 I had 6 months to live and 4 times since and they don't know why i'm even here. I tell them its because I dont eat processed foods or meats. Most laugh at me and say im nuts. My sugar doctor says its the only thing different your doing and keep it up.  I have lost 80 lbs my sugar was 600 and now between 70-200 and I was on a ton of meds like 23 a day. Some were 2-3 times a day. Now Im on 4 and 1 is simply fish oil. My sugar levels are all good or better and my nutrition  levels are high. To bad It took so long to get right. But the damage that's been done isnt going to get any better.But Seems like im still above ground! ;D
So hows your going? Ready to kick into full production again? Have kept you in our prayers and hope its helping. Great to hear from you and hope to see more of your meats. You are quite impressive with your skills!
Your friend Paul
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: pikeman_95 on December 09, 2012, 09:08:55 PM
Paul
I am glad you are feeling a little better. I just have to be careful what I do. I probably will not work much longer. I would rather spend time in my shop. None of the over regulated crap that we have at work. Besides I like meeting friends like you through our hobby.
I will find out Friday if the insurance company is going to allow me to have the fusion that I need. It is a new procedure but it should end some of the pain.
Kirby
Title: Re: Well I did it Venison trail Bologna
Post by: viper125 on December 09, 2012, 10:14:21 PM
Well neighbor had neck fusion and my soon had back fusion. Both helped a year or so. But the boy wasnt careful. The neighbor has new damage and is managing with injections. Hope yours help. Sounds like a good plan. And well get to see and learn more.