Hey all iv been reading a lot into adding a second element I want to do it but I want it to run threw the digital generator not a pid less bulk could someone please walk me threw this as far as once the second element is installed I need help from there to not overload the digital control please help its cold up here in sask and i need my smoke fix!!!
We just had a discussion on this. I'm sure someone has the link, it was pretty comical really. But the general rule of thumb is to go pid when you do upgrade your element. So far no one has done it without, or at least admitted to it.....
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I'd like to be a pioneer then lol I'm not a super technical guy just want my bradley to get up and get going is all.
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This is going to get interesting.
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This is going to get interesting.
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Deja Vue all over again.
Not the same really. Guy is clearly new and probably didn't search first. At least he didn't question everything said and tell everyone they are wrong because the don't have proof (or something like that)....yet...
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Someone posted a thread on a PID they mounted in the digital smoke generator box that should give you the control you'll need and no bulk to get in the way, at least that would be my suggestion.
I am new and I have done lots of research I spend the majority of my day on the web as I haul oil in south east sask I understand that a pid gives me better control of temps and what not but I'm trying to keep my costs down (as my wife and I are expecting and I'd get shot if I spent a bunch on my smoker at this pont) so unless there's a cheaper rout for me to get a second element in I'm open to all comments at this point
I can't find the post I was looking at earlier, but I think the mounted PID is only about $45 if I'm remembering correctly, hopefully someone else will be able to put up the link showing what was done. I certainly can understand saving money with one on the way, I decided not to modify mine because I can keep the heat recovery issues at bay with a cake pan and boiling water.
Typed to soon, here is the link to the thread I was referring to, you can post to it or send them a PM on how much it cost and what they did. http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=34268.0;topicseen
Hutcho this is ur set up? If so could you walk me threw it?
The only way I would do the second element without a PID would be to run it with its own on/off switch. The I would use it just to get to temp then turn it off and continue the cook with just 1 element. I would have a brick in there as a heat sink. If I opened the door for whatever reason I would manually turn on the second element and then turn it off when it got to temp. I have done this when my PId went out and I was waiting for it to be returned from repair.
Hey thats my post! Still trying to get it dialed in right. I planned on posting a build up thread sometime this week. I will try and do it at lunch tommorow.
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Quote from: Grizzlybaer3890 on January 13, 2014, 06:25:41 PM
Hutcho this is ur set up? If so could you walk me threw it?
Up until now, the only PIDs that were installed in the SG were with the non-digital Bradley. People said there wasn't enough room to do it in the digital but the pics in the above link show it is possible. I installed mine in the SG but I have an original Bradley. The PID controller itself was around $45. By the time you add a SSR, K-type TC, heat sink, and miscellaneous parts the cost will be around $70-$80, depending on what you can scrounge up or have to purchase. I salvaged a heat sink off some old electronics they were tossing out at work.
Here's the "how-to", written for the original Bradley: Adding a PID Controller (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?315-PID-Controller)
Here's my setup:
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The "guts": :)
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I like the price and it looks clean but I have a digital I dunno if this would work with digital
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It fits. Its tight but it does.
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And u have a second element hutcho?
Not yet. Plan to add fan and 2nd element in the future. Gonna try and have the pid control the fan as well. Not that its needed but it would be fun to mess with.
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Ya I'm wondering now.... If I should order this stuff when I get payed on Wednesday... I just have no electrical confidence
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=237
This one?
Quote from: Grizzlybaer3890 on January 13, 2014, 07:50:41 PM
This one?
I'm not sure which one hutcho has. Mine is the Auber SYL-2352 (http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=3)
If you're not confident of your electrical abilities, I don't know that I'd recommend doing this.
I guess I shouldn't say not confident I just have to completely understand the setup before I can let myself attempt anything I'm the kind of person who will research something for a month before making a solid decision.
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=shopping_cart
Alright I have created a shopping list tell me what u think I added the compact enclosure so that I could just mount it to the side of the sg
The link says the shopping cart is empty. I think it sends a cookie to your computer as you add things to the cart and I didn't get any cookies. :(
Anyway, if you're adding a stand-alone enclosure you might look at the single probe Programmable PID Controller for Bradley Smoker (http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_28&products_id=72). By the time you add up everything to do this it probably wouldn't cost all that much more for the plug-n-play version. I just liked the neat and tidy install in the SG when I first saw the how-to guide. I like tinkering with things, I occasionally work with PID controllers on my job and it seemed like a fun project.
Ya I just like the idea of tinkering and being able to say I built that still not over 100 bucks for the four items
Here is what I ordered. Mine is the 2352 with the ramp/soak option. By the time you figure in the control box I would think getting the single probe preprogrammed package would be close in price and by far easier. If you are wanting to do it yourself I would seriously consider looking at the manual and making sure you can understand it, its a very boring read and has a steep learning curve but can be done.(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/14/utetapa8.jpg)
I hope you can see everything on the pic.
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Grizzlybaer3890,
I made a add on controller that uses the Bradley Digital controller to turn on & off the the 900 watt finned element through a SSR. I am no longer using it as I purchased a Auber SLY 2342. If you want to try this, I can send it to you. Installation is straight forward with the power cord from the Bradley controller plugging into the the unit with the SSR, & output pigtail plugging into Bradley oven. It has a power pigtail that plugs into wall outlet for power. There are no mods whatsoever required to install. This will handle much more than the 1000 watt dual element, but does not improve the Bradley temp swings. It has a built in 120vac to 9vdc converter to power the 3 to 32 vdc required to power the SSR.
Allenfromwis that would be amazing if u could then I could just add a switch to second element to help control the heat swing once my baby is born I think I'll look into a little more expensive setup but for now I'm just looking to keep it hot in the box
PM me your address, & I will box it up & see what shipping will be. Also check on any shipping restrictions to ship to Canada. Probably won't get to it today as we are in the middle of a winter storm warning.
Alan
So I got a redneck hood installed in my garage using a fart sucker dryer vent and a big cardboard box I'll have to take a pic and post it later