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Title: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: Beekeeper on January 19, 2014, 08:47:27 AM
I just pulled the 3 racks of cheese after a 2 hour run in the Bradley.  I used Apple and my cold smoker attachment, and tried out my bubba pucks for the first time.  It is cool here this morning, but I used the Igrill probe to monitor the box temps, just for grins.  Box temp stayed around 43-45 degrees the entire time, so no worries there.  The apple smoke smelled amazing, and my homemade bubba pucks worked great.  I know you all like pictures..........so here ya go!

Top rack - Asiago, Provolone and Swiss

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Second rack - Mozzarella and Sharp Cheddar

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Bottom Rack - Colby Jack and Sharp Light Cheddar

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Loaded and ready for smoke!

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A shot of my bubba pucks, cut from 1/2" thick aluminum on a water jet, and bead blasted to smooth the edges

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/kgersty/Smoking/CheeseSmokeJan192014007_zps50f70f75.jpg)

A shot of the result after 2 hours of Apple smoke.  (Camera doesn't capture the subtle color change, but it the racks are resting on the counter, and you can sure smell the smoke!

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All in all, I think the cheese turned out well, and I am resisting the urge to sample it.  We will let it rest for about an hour, then vacuum pack it, date it, and wait a month or 6 weeks to try it out.  It's a good thing my wife doesn't mind the smoke smell in the house!  Thanks again for the pointers, and those that have posted their processes and results previously.  It sure helps us newbies!  Have a great Sunday everyone!
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: RedJada on January 19, 2014, 09:55:13 AM
 Looking good Beekeeper. You will get more color after it rests a bit. Since this is your first time, you should just sneak a taste now. ;D. 4-6 weeks is good. Anything more than 6 weeks then it just gets better. Great job.
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: Beekeeper on January 19, 2014, 12:34:52 PM
Quote from: RedJada on January 19, 2014, 09:55:13 AM
Looking good Beekeeper. You will get more color after it rests a bit. Since this is your first time, you should just sneak a taste now. ;D. 4-6 weeks is good. Anything more than 6 weeks then it just gets better. Great job.

Thanks!  I did sneak a wee bit of a taste from the Mozzarella.............and you folks is dead right...........it tastes just like an ashtray!   :o

It's all vacuum packed and tucked into the fridge.  I'm going to forget about it until March 1st.  Meanwhile...........I'll try to get that fresh smoked cheese taste out of my mouth!    ;D
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: ragweed on January 19, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
Great looking cheese, great looking bubba pucks too.  Don't know about the other kinds of cheese, but my swiss singles were ready after four weeks.  Just sayin'.
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: Saber 4 on January 19, 2014, 01:51:25 PM
Looks like your cheese did good and your bubba pucks are nice. Most places put a best by date on their products, I put a don't open until date when I package my cheese so I don't open early.
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: zueth on January 21, 2014, 10:00:30 PM
I find that the cheese takes on the smoke better when cut into small chunks(think 8 chunks from each brick) and temp is between 70-90.


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Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: BoxcarBetts on January 21, 2014, 10:21:57 PM
Congrats on your first cheese smoke! I just tasted my first batch of Monterey Jack yesterday after 3 weeks resting and needless to say, it's almost gone. I'm still waiting another week for the white cheddar - that's the one I'm really excited about!

What are the bubba pucks all about?
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: TedEbear on January 22, 2014, 04:33:42 AM
Quote from: BoxcarBetts on January 21, 2014, 10:21:57 PM
What are the bubba pucks all about?

When you load three of them on top of your stack of bisquettes they will push the last bisquette into the water bowl after the smoking session is finished.  It saves having to use actual bisquettes.  You can buy premade puck savers (http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=111) (click on the link) for around $21 or make them yourself for free if you can find some scrap pipe of the right diameter.
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: BoxcarBetts on January 22, 2014, 10:46:32 AM
Good call. That's a great idea. I always end up getting that puck next to the element singed, but then I use it to preheat on the next smoke.
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: tskeeter on January 22, 2014, 02:36:53 PM
Quote from: Saber 4 on January 19, 2014, 01:51:25 PM
Looks like your cheese did good and your bubba pucks are nice. Most places put a best by date on their products, I put a don't open until date when I package my cheese so I don't open early.


Hmmmm - would that be a "best after" date, then?
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: Saber 4 on January 22, 2014, 06:07:53 PM
Quote from: tskeeter on January 22, 2014, 02:36:53 PM
Quote from: Saber 4 on January 19, 2014, 01:51:25 PM
Looks like your cheese did good and your bubba pucks are nice. Most places put a best by date on their products, I put a don't open until date when I package my cheese so I don't open early.


Hmmmm - would that be a "best after" date, then?

Yuuupp!!!! :D
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: Beekeeper on January 22, 2014, 06:49:50 PM
I dated the packages March 1st 2014, just to make sure we don't open the cheese until it's ready.  We own an RV, and we will most likely enjoy the majority of the cheese on our camping trips.

I plan to smoke a few more batches of cheese, so I have a supply to get me through the months when the temps are too warm for cold smoking some cheeses. 
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: BoxcarBetts on January 23, 2014, 12:09:46 PM
Quote from: Beekeeper on January 22, 2014, 06:49:50 PM

I plan to smoke a few more batches of cheese, so I have a supply to get me through the months when the temps are too warm for cold smoking some cheeses.

I haven't tried it yet, but I've read about guys putting in some ice or freezer packs to keep the temp down while cold smoking. If it works and keeps you smoking cheese through the summer, why not!
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: ragweed on January 23, 2014, 12:29:08 PM
I've smoked cheese in the summer, but it can be a struggle.  I try to do it real early in the day, use polar packs, ice cubes in the drip pan, even "fan" the door to reduce the heat.  I haven't lost a battle yet, but it's been close a few times.  That's why this time of year is when I try to stock up.  Heck, I even had to turn on the heating element the other day so I could reach my target temp of 80* F!!
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: Beekeeper on January 23, 2014, 02:57:02 PM
I monitored the box temp when I smoked this batch of cheese, and it stayed right around 50 degrees.  I used my cold smoke attachment.  Should I have tried to get my box temp up around 80 degrees?

I guess my question is, does it make a difference in the outcome if you have the box temp warmer than the 50 degrees I attained during the 2 hours of cold smoking?
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: STLstyle on January 23, 2014, 03:08:50 PM
For optimum color, 80 is good I hear.  That's what I did and I got nice color after blooming...


Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: devo on January 23, 2014, 03:10:36 PM
Your cheese will get softer which will allow it to take on more color. Will it make a difference, maybe but I have done both and have not notice much difference in taste. I do like when it takes on that brownish looking appearance though that you get from smoking in the 80-90 degree range. 
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: RedJada on January 23, 2014, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: BoxcarBetts on January 23, 2014, 12:09:46 PM
I haven't tried it yet, but I've read about guys putting in some ice or freezer packs to keep the temp down while cold smoking. If it works and keeps you smoking cheese through the summer, why not!

In the summer here in NE Ohio, I'll put a 10lb block of ice on the bottom shelf. Works pretty good. If temps still creep up, I'll crack the door about a 1/4 inch.
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: ragweed on January 23, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
I've only done cheese once where the tower temp was below 80* F.  I have to wait another few weeks to be able to tell if it tastes different.  Like Devo though, I like the color it takes on at temps above 80* F.
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: Smokesmore on January 23, 2014, 09:07:05 PM
RedJada... The higher temps make for nice color. Haven't tried any cheese in the BDS but from experience, a little heat helps coloring.

Smoke is not a clear sent. You want and need coloring. Unless I've been doing it wrong for 10 years. Some of these guys know their stuff. Listen.

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Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: BoxcarBetts on January 24, 2014, 03:00:09 PM
I don't recall what my temp was when I smoked my cheese, but it was enough to soften the Monterey Jack to the point where it sagged through the grate a bit. Both took on a real nice colour. I cold smoked mine with the tower unplugged and that was it. Only the heat from the smoke generator was going.
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: RedJada on January 24, 2014, 03:31:01 PM
Quote from: Smokesmore on January 23, 2014, 09:07:05 PM
RedJada... The higher temps make for nice color. Haven't tried any cheese in the BDS but from experience, a little heat helps coloring.

Smoke is not a clear sent. You want and need coloring. Unless I've been doing it wrong for 10 years. Some of these guys know their stuff. Listen.

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Guess I should have mentioned that I don't have the cold smoke attachment. I just use the SG, so in warmer temps I can hit 120-150 pretty easy with just that. But I do agree on the 80-90 degree thing. I usually like to hover right around there.
Title: Re: First Cheese smoke done.
Post by: Smokesmore on January 24, 2014, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: RedJada on January 24, 2014, 03:31:01 PM
Quote from: Smokesmore on January 23, 2014, 09:07:05 PM
RedJada... The higher temps make for nice color. Haven't tried any cheese in the BDS but from experience, a little heat helps coloring.

Smoke is not a clear sent. You want and need coloring. Unless I've been doing it wrong for 10 years. Some of these guys know their stuff. Listen.

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Guess I should have mentioned that I don't have the cold smoke attachment. I just use the SG, so in warmer temps I can hit 120-150 pretty easy with just that. But I do agree on the 80-90 degree thing. I usually like to hover right around there.

All this talk about cheese is making me hungry. We are in a blizzard warning... sounds like cold smoking weather.

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