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Bradley Smokers => The Black Bradley Smoker (BTIS1) => Topic started by: Jon on December 30, 2003, 10:21:51 PM

Title: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: Jon on December 30, 2003, 10:21:51 PM
Got a B.S. for Xmas and I noticed that the round bowl doesn't really fit under the bisquette burner. Is it supposed to interfere like that?

So I was thinking, maybe it would be better to use a tin foil disposable pan to catch the used up bisquettes and grease/drippings. It's not as tall, so would fit, and I could just throw it away when done.
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: Kummok on December 31, 2003, 02:38:25 AM
I don't understand why the water pot won't fit.....is your puck ramp bent down? Is the smoke generator catching both upper and lower mounting posts? Can't imagine that they sent you too tall a pot....they've been packing these things for quite a while?!?!  I don't see any reason why the foil wouldn't work as long as the water level is "tall" enough to avoid splashing when the ashes fall in. As far as cleaning up the stock water pot, I just throw it in the dishwasher once in a while....same with the racks and lower heat shield , except they are dishwasher cleaned at least after every other use. Hope this helps! [8D]

Kummok @ Homer, AK USA
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: stormdiver on December 31, 2003, 12:43:23 PM
Hi,
   I had the same problem,(Though it does make a very nice dog dish) i just use a small roasting pan. Though i am not suprised it did not fit after all they said you could cold smoke with it as well. [:D]

Stormdiver
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: Jon on December 31, 2003, 08:47:33 PM
Here's what I mean. Just quality control problems, or what?

(http://www.rallystuff.com/images/bradley_smoker1.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: Chez Bubba on January 03, 2004, 02:37:36 AM
Jon,

The flat bottom tray was an afterthought, albeit improvement, that Bradley has made this last year. The added thickness of it will cause some "snugness" but overall you will have a better product.

You can adjust the angle of the smoke generator slightly by adjusting it's mounting screws. You can also....very carefully...bend the bisquette burner arm, but be ginger on this & not too far.

BTW, you're smoker is way too clean! Dirty it up dude![8D]

http://www.chezbubba.com
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: bighoof on January 03, 2004, 09:02:02 AM
Mine touches the smoke generator too, I don't worry about. It doesn't lean that bad though.
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: Jon on January 05, 2004, 04:05:07 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">BTW, you're smoker is way too clean! Dirty it up dude!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

[:)] Did that today:
http://www.bradleysmoker.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=82
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: obie51 on January 06, 2004, 10:31:24 PM
i put my tray on top of the diffuser tray to catch drippings. have no problem with the water pot fitting.
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: n/a on January 06, 2004, 10:53:42 PM
The tray is disigned to go UNDER the water pan, I the first couple of times put it under the lower rack as the directions I got didn't even show the rectangular pan! The newer directions do.... I think we both had the same idea to keep the drippings off the heat deflector, I've sense on the past four batches put it where the directions say and have noticed other than cleanup that the unit works better.

There has been a pretty good response to this pan ussue and I think one of the problems if put above the deflector it will generate too much heat in the lower part of the smoker??  I doubt there is a smoker made that a person dosen't have to do a fair amount of cleanup after smoking if one wants to keep it working right for very long!!  I do use a lot of Pam on all ther racks and deflector before using!

Good luck and keep it looking nice!!  Larry M [;)]
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: n/a on January 06, 2004, 11:03:31 PM
After looking at your picture and thinking about it, it looks like if you tried to adjust the bisquette tray up away from the water bowl so it didn't touch I don't think it would heat the bowl and water up as it looks like yours has gotten pretty hot, it would also cut down on a lot of moisture from the hot water?? I will be checking mine out  as it's a little snug also, it makes sense that the water bowl is conducting heat from the bisquette burner!  Maybe Bradley should check this idea out and respond to a fix on the Forum??

Larry M
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: Chez Bubba on January 07, 2004, 02:13:09 AM
OK guys, I've re-read all the posts here a few times & have some random thoughts.

1. Obie: DO NOT place the flat drip pan anywhere other than the bottom of your smoker! As Larry suggested, you will trap too much heat in the lower part and ruin the smoker.

The V-shaped tray is designed to shield the heat tube and direct the drippings into the water pan. The water pan is designed to hold the drippings and extinguish the spent bisquettes. The flat bottom tray is designed to catch overflow from the bowl in case you forget to empty & refill it while cooking something like a pork shoulder or brisket for 10 hours.

The purpose of the water in the bowl is to extinguish the bisquettes, not add moisture. Although it may in fact do that, it is minimal.

2. Larry: I think Jon's picture is just a "flash related issue" regarding the coloration of the water bowl. The rest of the smoker is way too clean to have ever been fired up.

3. Jon: After re-looking at the picture, I think Kummok is on to something. Are you sure you have the smoke generator properly engaged with the mounting screws? Thinking back, there have been several times when I have not gotten it just right & produced the results you show.

4. Stormdiver: You still need to use the bowl with water in it for cold smoking to extinguish the bisquettes. If you're having a problem with keeping the temp low enough, fill it with ice instead of water.

5. To All: Never let your water bowl sit for more than a day with the ash & drippings in it. Basically, these are the ingredients to make lye. It will eat little pinholes through the bowl & make it into a very effective seive.

Too much liquid in the bottom will eventually run out throught the doorseal but also find its' way through the bottom of the smoker. In doing so, it will come in contact with your temp control board & its' wires & fry them.

Hope this all helps, didn't mean to ramble. Happy smokin' to all,

Kirk

http://www.chezbubba.com
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: Kummok on January 07, 2004, 03:42:55 AM
Sheeeeeesh Jon, warn us to put on sunglasses before you do that again!![8D][8D][8D][;)][;)]  It's supposed to look as black on the inside as the outside...SS buyers ignore this!
How about posting a "dirty picture", now that you've used it!! [:D]

Kummok @ Homer, AK USA
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: stormdiver on January 07, 2004, 10:05:55 AM
Hi everyone,
Yes I agree with Kirk, just to let you know i use a small roasting pan which has water in it. This is ideal as a quick fix and probably will be permenant.
Scott

Stormdiver
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: Richard Pearce on January 10, 2004, 01:51:14 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by stormdiver</i>
<br />Hi everyone,
Yes I agree with Kirk, just to let you know i use a small roasting pan which has water in it. This is ideal as a quick fix and probably will be permenant.
Scott

Stormdiver
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Hi Scott
Elsewhere I noticed that someone was using a VERY heavy pot like a Creusot or a small cast iron pot; this will heat up rather slowly but it will bring the heat up again very quickly whenever you have to open the door. (or try a brick! (see elsewhere))
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: Chez Bubba on February 05, 2004, 11:20:09 PM
Larry,

The bisqutte burner produces very little heat compared to the 500 watt bulb that is inches from the water bowl. If anything is going to turn that water to steam, I believe it would be the bulb.

Also, the only part of the bisquette burner that gets hot is the very end, which is not in contact with the bowl, but centered above it.

Happy Smokin',

Kirk

http://www.chezbubba.com
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: n/a on February 05, 2004, 11:55:02 PM
Kirk,

My post wasn't ment to be critical toward you and I apologize if taken that way. I just come from the store where I bought my smoker and looking at the picture in this post and the two at the store, one stainless and one black there is a big difference in the two! The water pan in the black smoker is just like mine and the one pictured in this post, the stainless model has at least 3/4" between the heater and the pan! My concern was that by the two touching wouldn't it cause unessary condensation from over heating the water in the pan as I'm getting a lot of moisture running out of the bottom of my door every time I smoke!  Does this make sense?

Larry M
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: poorman on February 06, 2004, 01:53:43 AM
[:p]<b></b><font face="Tahoma"></font id="Tahoma"><font size="6"></font id="size6"><font color="brown"></font id="brown">Hi everybody, have my bs two days now have the same problem with the water dish no big deal. Have made fish, ribs, chichen came out great. Have fun with your smoker lets EAT.
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: Chez Bubba on February 06, 2004, 11:53:46 PM
Larry,

No offense taken. Is the moisture coming out the bottom water or fat, or both?

Kirk

http://www.chezbubba.com
Title: Re: Alternatives to the catch-bowl
Post by: Chez Bubba on February 07, 2004, 10:54:41 PM
Larry,

Your question peaked my interest so I decided to do a test. I took my bisquette burner out and turned it on without anything else.

After an hour the temp on the plate was 156. I missed the 2hr reading because a buddy of mine stopped by. At 3hrs it was at 249. I had the unit outside where ambient temp was about 30.

I'm not a physicist so I don't know if that temp can transfer enough energy through the bowl & into the water to actually make it boil off. I'll still stick to my theory that that heat bulb is providing the heat that makes the water into steam.

Anywho, that's my experiment for the day, just thought I'd let you know. Hope it warms up for you a bit so you can resume cookin'!

Kirk

http://www.chezbubba.com