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Title: Gas
Post by: West Coast Kansan on March 24, 2008, 03:33:12 PM
$ 3.51 a gal - Oceanside, CA March 24, 2008  ;D
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Ontrack on March 24, 2008, 05:49:29 PM
$3.21 here (southwest Virginia) today. Would you believe $310.00 for me to drive to work last month, $390.00 for my wife, and with mowing season coming on (5 acres every 4 or 5 days) about $20.00 per mow! :o Somethings gotta give, please?! >:(
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: NePaSmoKer on March 24, 2008, 07:33:21 PM
$3.29 this morning going to work, $3.19 comeing home at same station.

THE FLEECING OF AMERICA

nepas
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Mr Walleye on March 24, 2008, 07:37:29 PM
We're at $1.16 a litre right now and they are talking higher!  :o

Mike
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: projump on March 24, 2008, 07:50:51 PM
$3.09 a gallon, Bloomfield, Missouri
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: tsquared on March 24, 2008, 08:57:45 PM
$1.17 a litre here on Vancouver Island. ($1.17X4=$4.68/US gallon) I win! :'(
T2
PS --Ontrack--5 acres of mowing?!! Goats, cows, sheep, horses??They all eat grass. I'm trying to think of alternatives here!
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: La Quinta on March 24, 2008, 09:41:16 PM
About $3.48 here for basic unleaded...sucks big...but I have a question...if you have a car that says you need to put premium unleaded in...do you really have to? Or is that bull?
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Mr Walleye on March 24, 2008, 09:55:31 PM
LQ

I'm not sure what you drive but some higher compression engines are designed to run on premium. Not that many cars these days but there are lots of factory bikes that are exclusively designed for higher octane fuels. Some people here use premium just to stay away from ethanol blended fuels.

Mike
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Gizmo on March 24, 2008, 09:56:27 PM
Saw $3.65 in Rancho Bernardo, Ca. today.  That station is usually 5 to 10 cents a gallon higher than most.  I anticipate the gas grabbers will be clutching over $4.00 a gallon of our cash before summer is over.
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: 3rensho on March 24, 2008, 11:09:36 PM
Converting to $ and gallons it is $6.73 a gallon here in northern Switzerland - and that's much cheaper than in neighboring France or Germany!!  Good thing we have superb public transportation at bargain prices.

Tom
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: La Quinta on March 24, 2008, 11:30:56 PM
Mike...both of our cars (well one car one SUV) say (in the gas cap) premium only...both are foreign cars...both German of different makes....I think its crap but don't want to take the chance...unless somebody out there knows better...
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: begolf25 on March 25, 2008, 05:00:48 AM
$3.25 a gallon here in Hanover, PA. A 110 mile round trip to work every day isn't helping.

Man do I wish the US would have followed other countries with their public transportation systems. I would love to take a train everyday. Save some money and not have to deal with all the nuts on the road in a hurry to get to the next stop light.
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Hunkydory on March 25, 2008, 06:05:13 AM
I make it $ 7.93 here in the UK !
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: FLBentRider on March 25, 2008, 07:26:13 AM
$3.37 here is South Florida - $3.80 for diesel, I have seen diesel over $4.00 at some stations. $90.00 to fill the Sprinter - but She can get two weeks out of that. The Durango we had before that would run $75.00 a week.

Riding my bike to work saves me about $40.00 a week. Easy to justify expensive bike parts are those rates.
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: manxman on March 25, 2008, 08:43:16 AM
You guys have got me crying into my beer.   :'(

We are paying $9.50 for diesel per US gallon at the moment, $9.00 for petrol ........   >:( :o
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: iceman on March 25, 2008, 09:41:33 AM
$3.31 this morning at Costco for reg unleaded in Anchorage.
$29.00 per 1/2 gallon Ron Rico Rum :D
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: 3rensho on March 25, 2008, 10:02:53 AM
Just out of curiosity what are the octane ratings available in the US these days?  Our "regular" is 95 and "super" is 98.  Those are the only choices except for diesel.

Tom
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: FLBentRider on March 25, 2008, 10:16:03 AM
We have 87, 89 and 92/93
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Mr Walleye on March 25, 2008, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: La Quinta on March 24, 2008, 11:30:56 PM
Mike...both of our cars (well one car one SUV) say (in the gas cap) premium only...both are foreign cars...both German of different makes....I think its crap but don't want to take the chance...unless somebody out there knows better...

LQ

Somewhere in the vehicle manual it should indicate the octane level of fuel that should be used in it. But judging by 3rensho's comment about their octane levels in Switzerland being 95 and 98, If Germany is similar that would be why they say to burn premium only. I would still check out the manual or dealer to see for sure though.

Mike
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Ontrack on March 25, 2008, 02:33:10 PM
Quote from: begolf25 on March 25, 2008, 05:00:48 AM
$3.25 a gallon here in Hanover, PA. A 110 mile round trip to work every day isn't helping.

Man do I wish the US would have followed other countries with their public transportation systems. I would love to take a train everyday. Save some money and not have to deal with all the nuts on the road in a hurry to get to the next stop light.

Your 110 beats my 80, but the wife's 150 beats your 110!

As for riding the train, remember, it's my job (and others like me, or worse) to inspect that track that the train runs on. And they (not me, of course) may be hungover and miss something that could make for a very bumpy ride! ;) ;D

Quote from: tsquared on March 24, 2008, 08:57:45 PM

PS --Ontrack--5 acres of mowing?!! Goats, cows, sheep, horses??They all eat grass. I'm trying to think of alternatives here!


T2, all those animals make poop and that makes the grass grow more. On the other hand, it would save me the thousand bucks to fertilize this year. Honestly, I don't mind it that much, I just like to complain about it. I can mow the whole 5 in about 2 hours and 15 minutes. Very fast mower, (gas guzzler), and can't hear the cell phone ring. My time to be alone with with a HUGE mixed drink, loud rock & roll in the headphones, and nobody to bother me. :)
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: La Quinta on March 25, 2008, 02:41:57 PM
Hey Mike...checked both manuals...the VW suv says minimum 91 octane...the Merc says min 92...I'm screwed...just didn't know if that was for real or not...and trust me...I'm not a conspiracy theory kind of thinker...if there is an actual (mechanical reason) why these engines need higher octane fuel...fine...just wondered! Thought there might be a mechanic or tech in the forum who could tell me why?
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Mr Walleye on March 25, 2008, 03:40:03 PM
LQ

Here is some info that I found on this page..... I'm assuming your VW is a Touareg.
http://www.touaregfaq.com/

"2.43. What happens if I run it on regular unleaded instead of high octane?
The Touareg's engine management system will retard ignition timing sufficiently to prevent predetonation (knock or ping). This may or may not be noticeable to the average Touareg driver, but theoretically should reduce the performance of the engine.

Some have suggested that premium fuel has benefits beyond its octane content. One claimed benefit of premium fuel is that it includes better detergents to prevent the build-up of deposits in the engine's combustion chamber. It should be noticed that in th e US, Federal law requires that all gasoline contain detergents. According to the AAA (American Automobile Association), it is very rare for premium gasoline to contain a different detergent than regular-grade gasoline from the same manufacturer."


According to this it would appear the system will retard the timing slightly to compensate for the slightly lower octane fuel. It wouldn't hurt to ask your dealer but this day in age I can't imagine everybody who owns one would be strickly running premium fuel.

Mike
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: La Quinta on March 25, 2008, 03:49:31 PM
Thanks Mike!! :) Yeah it is the 8 cylinder pig...gas sucking...Touraeg...love it to death as a vehicle...but dear God...14 miles to the gallon if we're lucky...(really fast tho!!:)) The other is an E class Mercedes which gets about 28 to the gallon...so I'm happy with that one... so now I know that I am truly screwed on having to buy premium...Oh well...as Yogi said..."It is...what it is"!! Thanks for the help!! :)
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Ontrack on March 25, 2008, 04:13:23 PM
A girl who works for my wife has a Nissan Murano, which also calls for high octane. For a few months she started putting low octane fuel in it, and it soon started knocking, pinging, and lost some power and mpg. After a couple of weeks back to high octane, she said it is back to normal and all problems were resolved. :-\
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Gizmo on March 25, 2008, 04:36:34 PM
An old rule of thumb (and don't know if it holds true in today's overly complicated computer controlled engines) is to run the lowest octane you can before it starts to knock and ping.  The dealers will most likely stick to the manual and the MFG recommendations less they find themselves in lawsuits from those that would bring them if the engine fails and claim it related to the lower octane.  Some people belive that you get better gas mileage with a higher octane so it pays for itself and it looks like Ontrack has confirmed that for the Nissan.  I believe each vehicle can be different.   For instance a guy that use to drive a Ford F250 and pull a dual horse trailer told me he got 9 miles to the gallon.  Didn't matter if he was alone in the truck or pulling the trailer and 2 horses.  Said this was due to the horse power (not related to the two in the trailer) of the engine and the trailer didn't add a significant load to make the engine work any harder therefore no change in gas mileage.  I would think you could try and if it doesn't run well or loses gas mileage, change back like Mrs Ontrack did.  
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: yul on March 25, 2008, 04:43:11 PM
 $1.13/ltr here in Montreal, got it for $1.06 in Ottawa at the week end. All those poor politicians.
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Ontrack on March 25, 2008, 05:32:58 PM
Quote from: Gizmo on March 25, 2008, 04:36:34 PM
 I would think you could try and if it doesn't run well or loses gas mileage, change back like Mrs Ontrack did.  


Hey Giz, that wasn't Mrs. Ontrack in the Murano, it was a girl who works for her.  Mrs. Ontrack has more sense than that. Mrs. Ontrack drives a Tahoe that gets her about 13 mpg on her 150 mile round-trip commute. ::) I gave up many years ago on her business savy. Probably a good thing she didn't listen to me way back then though, because she's been very successful, with no thanks to me. :-X
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: La Quinta on March 25, 2008, 05:50:27 PM
Uh...well...just...:)

Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Ontrack on March 25, 2008, 06:09:01 PM
Quote from: La Quinta on March 25, 2008, 05:50:27 PM
Uh...well...just...:)

Divorce her? Kidding, not an option...she'll get half my pension, the dog, the house, the lawnmower, the SMOKER, blah blah blah... :(
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: La Quinta on March 25, 2008, 06:10:57 PM
NO WAY DUDE...no divorce...was gonna give you crap!! :)
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Ontrack on March 25, 2008, 06:15:50 PM
She'd have to kill me to get rid of me, LQ. I know when I have it good...besides, she's my designated driver! ;)
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Gizmo on March 25, 2008, 06:20:49 PM
And probably the beer, and that is just going way to far.  Hang on to her!!
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Ontrack on March 25, 2008, 06:27:09 PM
Hangin' on with both hands, Giz. Besides, she probably couldn't drive a big U-Haul, because that's what she'd need to take my beverages out of here... ;D
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: La Quinta on March 25, 2008, 08:36:01 PM
Just givin you crap Ontrack!! She sounds like a smart gal!!! (But aren't WE all?) Be careful how you answer....
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: NePaSmoKer on March 26, 2008, 06:15:34 AM
VW makes an SUV?

Didint that guy in the 40s make some and SUV all over Europe and we had to kick his A$$ for it  ;D

nepas

Title: Re: Gas
Post by: iceman on March 26, 2008, 09:36:01 AM
Quote from: La Quinta on March 25, 2008, 08:36:01 PM
Just givin you crap Ontrack!! She sounds like a smart gal!!! (But aren't WE all?) Be careful how you answer....

And the answer is.............
Me and Arcs..................... Drinking at a distance!  ;D
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Ontrack on March 26, 2008, 12:34:11 PM
Quote from: La Quinta on March 25, 2008, 08:36:01 PM
Just givin you crap Ontrack!! She sounds like a smart gal!!! (But aren't WE all?) Be careful how you answer....


I'm smart enough to know how to answer this one:....

It's Iceman and Arcs.....Drinking at a distance!

Was that the answer you wanted, LQ? :)
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: mcanik on March 26, 2008, 12:43:34 PM
$1.20/litre here in Kitimat British Columbia. >:(
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: La Quinta on March 26, 2008, 02:14:32 PM
Safe answer anyway!! :) (OnTrack...your wife would agree I'm sure!!)
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Ontrack on March 26, 2008, 03:47:24 PM
She probably already knows, LQ. She's like Dick Tracy and that sixth sense dude combined. I can't get away with anything anymore... :-\
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: La Quinta on March 26, 2008, 03:58:36 PM
I'D LIKE HER...!!!We have the same thing at our house...my hubby can't get away with anything!!! Love him to death...but damn...guys are dumb when they're trying to get away with anything...girls are way better at that!!! :) Cool huh?
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Ontrack on March 26, 2008, 04:09:05 PM
Yeah, but that's only 'cause you girls have that...NEVERMIND :P
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: bigredsmoker on March 30, 2008, 08:31:29 AM
$3.20 here in the heartland. Man my wifes' 1 mile comute is killin us! :D

I was going to complain about our 160 mile one way trips to our lake cabin, but the 150 mile daily trip put that in perspective.
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: yul on May 06, 2008, 04:29:49 PM
 >:( We hit $1:37 a litre here at the week end. I think, I mean, I know we are being ripped off. >:(
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: La Quinta on May 06, 2008, 04:33:13 PM
Welcome to the club Yul...you outta live in California if you really want to get hosed...(on gas...)
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: huhwhatliar on May 06, 2008, 05:35:10 PM
I read an article today and it listed gas prices all over the world and the cheapest was in Venezuela at $.12 a gallon and the most expensive was over $10 a gallon. I can't remember where that was.

Domenick
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: westexasmoker on May 06, 2008, 06:35:56 PM
3.49 - 3.55 in lubbock, texas (where the heck is that) a gal., CRAZY.... ::)

C

Dang its time to move to Venezula, the amount of money you'd save on gas would make up for loss of income... ;D
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: La Quinta on May 06, 2008, 08:07:56 PM
Yeah...but you could buy a BOAT LOAD of Bolivars to the dollar...:)
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: westexasmoker on May 06, 2008, 08:32:25 PM
But I don't like the ocean..A boat?!?! let alone a load, I seen jaws we need a bigger boat...AAAHHHH ...Hey and Bolivars..thats pretty close to livers (chicken that is)  ohhhh sign me up, come to think of it time to try some!!!!   ;D

C
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: La Quinta on May 06, 2008, 08:45:33 PM
Oh boy...never mind...
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: West Coast Kansan on May 06, 2008, 09:16:28 PM
Shell station $3.89 a gallon in oceanside ca. AMPM is 3.79 down .02 cents from yesterday.
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Gizmo on May 06, 2008, 09:40:19 PM
Paid $3.69 a gallon at the Vons gas station but that included the 10 cent discount for over spending in their store.   ??? ???  Seen reg unlead for $3.98 in Rancho Bernardo which is why I jumped on the $3.69.
Title: Re: Gas
Post by: Smoking Duck on May 07, 2008, 04:07:52 AM
Well, I've long given up on complaining about the gas prices.  Until you can organize everyone in this country to take a day off from gas (never gonna happen) or we start building some more refineries in this country (probably not gonna happen), the price of gas will continue to rise because they know they've got us by the shorthairs.  In effect, it's very much like a drug dealer will do to junkies.  He'll give them a taste for free or at a very low price and then when they're hooked and he knows they need it, then they pull full price.  It's a joke, in my opinion.  All I kept hearing about the war was that is was a war for oil.  I sure don't believe that to be the case right now.  No, I believe it's gonna get worse before it gets better.  :( :'(