I'm well on the way now to having a 12 rack 8) SS Bradley Smoker. I sprayed some upsidedownrackbegone in the smoker last night. I've got the new rails cut and my location templates made up. Just need to drill a few holes (48) in the rails and screw them in. This is going to be great. Pictures tonight!
John
I can't wait for the day someone picks up an old dead OBS, cuts the top/bottom off of it, and welds it into the middle of a fully functional one!
I think this will be easier than trying to weld two OBS's together. I can weld good but I would not attempt to weld metal that thin unless I had a spot welder...
John
Quote from: squirtthecat on October 14, 2009, 08:06:36 AM
I can't wait for the day someone picks up an old dead OBS, cuts the top/bottom off of it, and welds it into the middle of a fully functional one!
squirt, Just tell BigJohn he can't do it and he will show you how's it done. Looking forward to the pics tonite.
Hey John, bet you can't mow your grass.
Nope, it is too wet to mow the grass ;D and how did you know all 9 acres needed mowing.
John
Quote from: classicrockgriller on October 14, 2009, 08:22:49 AM
Hey John, bet you can't mow your grass.
My boy says he can eat fifty eggs, he can eat fifty eggs!
Bet you don't stay around him after he ate them 50 eggs
I'm shaking it boss...
Get mad at them eggs boy!
or the one my buddies really liked - I was only 11 when it came out so had to wait for reruns several years later
She don't know what she's doing
Oh boy, she knows exactly what she's doin'.... She's drivin' us crazy and lovin' every minute of it.
Anything so innocent...and built like that just got to be named Lucille.
Shut your mouth about my Lucille!!!
My Bandera is named Lucille and my wife has no idea why!
Ok, back on the subject at hand ;D
Drilling the holes in the rails...
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Smokin/12%20Rack/DrillingRails00.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Smokin/12%20Rack/DrillingRails02.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Smokin/12%20Rack/DrillingRails01.jpg)
John
Everything ready to go...
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Smokin/12%20Rack/Racks00.jpg)
Be back in a little bit got more rails to install...
John
Another intermission, geez
Ok, I'm back and it is now a 6 Rack Smoker...
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Smokin/12%20Rack/Racks01.jpg)
classicrockgriller, come on over and help we can get it done faster...
Oh yea be back in a bit with more pictures.
John
WEEEE ! now it is an 8 rack smoker
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Smokin/12%20Rack/Racks8.jpg)
John
WaHo! All done. I think I'll have a glass of wine and think about making some jerky now.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Smokin/12%20Rack/Racks12.jpg)
John
I'd help, but I don't drink and drill.
Looks great.
a cple of smokes and it will look like a factory job.
Now thats a good idea you came up with Big John.
I do the inverted rack thing when I do snack sticks and the top ones are a pain in the rear when its time to rotate, the sticks want to roll off if you dont have a steady hand.
Thanks, from the first time I did jerky with the automagic controller and 8 racks I was pondering how to ease the pain of trying to juggle the upside down racks and get more in there. Everything worked real well except my choice of screws. The Phillips head ones were not sharp enough and were real easy to strip out. I didn't drill any holes just put my template under it and kinda pressed hard on the cordless and tried to stop before the screw head hit home. They make a special "sharp point" screw for thin sheet metal but I couldn't find any real fast. Other than the screws the whole job went well and I excited about smoking 4 flank steaks worth of jerky at once...
Here is a shot showing how I used the template to line up the next rail.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Smokin/12%20Rack/template.jpg)
full steam ahead on Kielbasa you say...
John
Can I barrow your template ? :D
Could you give some dimensions ?
I used 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/16 aluminum angle from McMaster-Carr and the template is 1 1/4 high and 9" long. Cut three templates to make sure you have your spacing correct. If you can fit the three templates and the two rails between the stock rails then your good to go. I think Scott wants the template next ;D
I'm thinking of making up a few kits... if there is any one interested.
John
Thanks John
Very cool John, I will take a look at it tomorrow when I deliver your newest toy ;) ;D
SIA
Hey do you guys have Robertson head screws and screwdrivers south of the border. If not I think I might have tried pop rivets.
Quote from: Quarlow on October 14, 2009, 06:00:06 PM
Hey do you guys have Robertson head screws and screwdrivers south of the border. If not I think I might have tried pop rivets.
Yup, we can get them Quarlow and they work great. I think most people here call it a square drive. I've used a lot of the # 2 size.
That looks great BJT! Have you thought about adding a fan on top of your smoker to pull air out when your not smoking, just drying? Got to thinking about it and with the modifications you have done, it might speed up drying times, kind of the way the Cabelas 80L dehydrator works? Seems like drying sausage before smoking or drying jerky after smoking should be a little faster. Just some food for thought as I know you like to improve things. Once again, great job! ;D
Quote from: smokeitall on October 14, 2009, 05:31:39 PM
Very cool John, I will take a look at it tomorrow when I deliver your newest toy ;) ;D
SIA
and we will be a mixing now ;D
I have 4 rails left from that batch... I have some more on the way along with some different screws.
John
Quote from: HawkeyeSmokes on October 14, 2009, 06:15:22 PM
That looks great BJT! Have you thought about adding a fan on top of your smoker to pull air out when your not smoking, just drying? Got to thinking about it and with the modifications you have done, it might speed up drying times, kind of the way the Cabelas 80L dehydrator works? Seems like drying sausage before smoking or drying jerky after smoking should be a little faster. Just some food for thought as I know you like to improve things. Once again, great job! ;D
Kinda like a small vent fan on top that can plug into the accessory outlet on my smoker controller. I think I have one around here somewhere that is 120vac... That's a good idea Hawk.
Thanks
John
Quote from: BigJohnT on October 14, 2009, 06:29:16 PM
Quote from: HawkeyeSmokes on October 14, 2009, 06:15:22 PM
That looks great BJT! Have you thought about adding a fan on top of your smoker to pull air out when your not smoking, just drying? Got to thinking about it and with the modifications you have done, it might speed up drying times, kind of the way the Cabelas 80L dehydrator works? Seems like drying sausage before smoking or drying jerky after smoking should be a little faster. Just some food for thought as I know you like to improve things. Once again, great job! ;D
Kinda like a small vent fan on top that can plug into the accessory outlet on my smoker controller. I think I have one around here somewhere that is 120vac... That's a good idea Hawk.
Thanks
John
That's just what I'm thinking John. I remember seeing a post from Nepas using one but didn't find it. Hook it up to that controller you have, I would think you will have one awesome drying/smoking machine! And an extra 8 racks to boot. :D
So John do you think you could fit a flat rack on the top of each of the 12 drop down racks? I'm assuming theres no more room to turn a regular bradley rack upside down anymore!
SIA
Scott,
There is not enough room left for a flat rack much less anything on top of it unless you could find some racks that don't have as much drop down. Yea, when I got done spraying the inside with upsidedownrackbegone there was no more room for them ;D Then I gave it a generous spray from my makeroomforfourmoreracks can and voila a 12 rack Bradley. I need to find my 120vac 120mm fan... it is somewhere I know it is...
See you in the morning
John
Great job Big John! What a innovative idea! Your workmanship looks outstanding! Wish I had some of that talent!
Sooooooooo, I can easily turn my 4rk into an 8 rk. If I had 12, I 'd have jerky for a year.
Quote from: classicrockgriller on October 15, 2009, 08:02:45 AM
Sooooooooo, I can easily turn my 4rk into an 8 rk. If I had 12, I 'd have jerky for a year.
and I can turn my 6 rk into a B A 18 rk
Yep, then you could have jerky for 3 weeks ;D
John
OU, another part to your business.
Quote from: classicrockgriller on October 15, 2009, 08:42:11 AM
OU, another part to your business.
CRG you a mind reader on the side :D
you need to go for it. never know till you try. make some jerk, give away samples, take orders. just keep your price below a store and you are on your way.
Quote from: classicrockgriller on October 15, 2009, 09:10:02 AM
you need to go for it. never know till you try. make some jerk, give away samples, take orders. just keep your price below a store and you are on your way.
I'm on it, need to get 6 more racks and finish my exhaust in the shed
Here is my smoker with 12 jerky racks...
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Smokin/12%20Rack/12jerkyracks.jpg)
JT
Quote from: BigJohnT on October 20, 2009, 04:06:09 PM
Here is my smoker with 12 jerky racks...
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Smokin/12%20Rack/12jerkyracks.jpg)
JT
Hey TOTO I dont think we are in Kansas any more.
Great job JT, trully a great Gob
HR
Thanks HR,
It just came to me one day like a flash, a vision across the sky (I had my protective foil helmet off) one day that upside down racks were not correct ;D Scott will have the kits soon to add racks to your Bradley, in fact I'm working on them now.
JT
JT, your resourcefulness shall never seize to amaze me. Hats off Good man.
HR
Thanks HR, just don't ask me what color to paint the walls or if this dress matches these shoes cause when it comes to that I'm clueless. I can design a machine in my head and come up with geometric shapes but colors escape me.
JT
You are a blessed man to be able to think in 3-D in your mind. I only think in 1/2 sentences at a time.
LOL CRG, you crack me up.
Quote from: Quarlow on October 20, 2009, 08:09:25 PM
LOL CRG, you crack me up.
LOL.....The truth is funny sometimes.
Looks sweeeet JT
Now your making kits? WOW
I'm still getting every thing ready for winter and haven't had time to do anything I want to yet.
Quote from: classicrockgriller on October 15, 2009, 09:10:02 AM
you need to go for it. never know till you try. make some jerk, give away samples, take orders. just keep your price below a store and you are on your way.
Yeah but just dont say BEEF JERKY on the packaging or you will have the USDA on yer A$$ without the USDA stamp. I found out almost the hard way.
Label it like Hickory smoked CRG Jerky ;D
nepas
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on October 21, 2009, 05:50:28 AM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on October 15, 2009, 09:10:02 AM
you need to go for it. never know till you try. make some jerk, give away samples, take orders. just keep your price below a store and you are on your way.
Yeah but just dont say BEEF JERKY on the packaging or you will have the USDA on yer A$$ without the USDA stamp. I found out almost the hard way.
Label it like Hickory smoked CRG Jerky ;D
nepas
Good to know, thanks nepas
Quote from: classicrockgriller on October 20, 2009, 06:24:23 PM
You are a blessed man to be able to think in 3-D in your mind. I only think in 1/2 sentences at a time.
I can think and type in 3-D but don't put me in front of strangers and expect anything coherent to come out of my mouth LOL
JT
Quote from: OU812 on October 21, 2009, 05:28:38 AM
Looks sweeeet JT
Now your making kits? WOW
I'm still getting every thing ready for winter and haven't had time to do anything I want to yet.
Yep with a template to get the rails spaced correctly. I'm waiting for Scott to install the one I gave him the other day to make sure he doesn't have any problems.
JT
Quote from: BigJohnT on October 21, 2009, 07:07:01 AM
Quote from: OU812 on October 21, 2009, 05:28:38 AM
Looks sweeeet JT
Now your making kits? WOW
I'm still getting every thing ready for winter and haven't had time to do anything I want to yet.
Yep with a template to get the rails spaced correctly. I'm waiting for Scott to install the one I gave him the other day to make sure he doesn't have any problems.
JT
I'm next right ? ;D ::)
To get your name branded into your palm?
JT
Quote from: BigJohnT on October 21, 2009, 07:14:14 AM
To get your name branded into your palm?
JT
To try the template ;D
Ok, your next. ;D
JT
then me JT
I will be trying them as soon as I get out of Chicago....one more day to go. I think maybe I should take Friday off as a modification to my OBS day ;D We could make it a national holiday.
SIA
I gotta stop looking at all these cool mods that SIA and Big John r doing cuz i'm going to get in trouble with momma :D ;D
nepas
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on October 21, 2009, 06:48:18 PM
I gotta stop looking at all these cool mods that SIA and Big John r doing cuz i'm going to get in trouble with momma :D ;D
nepas
Ah come on, you do too much for Mama. She always says yes, who you kidding.
Quote from: smokeitall on October 21, 2009, 06:20:56 PM
I will be trying them as soon as I get out of Chicago....one more day to go. I think maybe I should take Friday off as a modification to my OBS day ;D We could make it a national holiday.
SIA
I up for a day off Friday.
JT
Smoker Fans... the Extra Rack Kits are ready! The first person to order an 8 Extra Rack Kit will get a monogrammed JT Puck tossed in to the package. This will delay the shipping a bit but it will be worth it.
JT
Quote from: BigJohnT on October 29, 2009, 06:06:35 PM
Smoker Fans... the Extra Rack Kits are ready! The first person to order an 8 Extra Rack Kit will get a monogrammed JT Puck tossed in to the package. This will delay the shipping a bit but it will be worth it.
JT
Sold JT. The website won't let me order it but I will contact Scott! ;D
Hawk,
I'm working on the web site as fast as I can. For now use the Quote form or just pm Scott.'
JT
Quote from: BigJohnT on October 29, 2009, 06:20:55 PM
Hawk,
I'm working on the web site as fast as I can. For now use the Quote form or just pm Scott.'
JT
I used the contact from his website. Will that work?
It should work... if you don't see the quote link hit your refresh button as you might be looking at a cashed page.
JT
Thanks JT. I did PM him also.
Hawk,
I just talked to Scott and he got your contact and is sending you a reply as we type. What do you want engraved on your custom engraved JT puck? I can fit up to three letters... the less letters the bigger they are. Scott should post a picture of the ones I did for him today.
JT
HS works John. Look forward to seeing the pics. ;D
HS it is... I'm looking forward to the pics too.
JT
HS it is ;D
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Smokin/JT%20Pucks/HSPuck.jpg)
Ain't that purdy...
JT
That is just too cool JT.
Are you about to float away over there in MO? We're looking at about 5 inches of rain on top of the 2-3 inches we have already gotten.
KyNola
Yea, it's pretty wet here, but the sun is coming out this evening and will be sunny for the next 5 days.
JT
That is a work of art JT
Can you make me 1 with C C on it?
Yep, just get with Scott at Scott's Place. I have a bunch made up ready for initials.
JT
WOW, looks great John. I feel like a kid waiting for XMAS now!! ;D
JT I have been trying to go to Scott's place for days and keep getting this:
ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
Requested URL:http://www.smokeandstuff.com/
Error message: Connection Failed
The system returned:
(110) Connection timed out
Administrator: webmaster.
© 2009, Powered by SysCache v.1.1
What can I do to order the pucks.
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on October 31, 2009, 09:51:06 AM
JT I have been trying to go to Scott's place for days and keep getting this:
ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
Requested URL:http://www.smokeandstuff.com/
Error message: Connection Failed
The system returned:
(110) Connection timed out
Administrator: webmaster.
© 2009, Powered by SysCache v.1.1
What can I do to order the pucks.
HR, try sending Scott (Smokeitall) a PM. He will get back to you with the info.
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on October 31, 2009, 09:51:06 AM
JT I have been trying to go to Scott's place for days and keep getting this:
ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
Requested URL:http://www.smokeandstuff.com/
Error message: Connection Failed
The system returned:
(110) Connection timed out
Administrator: webmaster.
© 2009, Powered by SysCache v.1.1
What can I do to order the pucks.
You should be able to get on the web site now. I was messing with some php stuff and didn't realize that I had uploaded a file that made all the files locked... I just checked again and it is on line fine. For now use the quote form or pm Scott and he will send you a PayPal quote that you can pay from. SquirtTheCat is helping me sort out the shipping part. It's been a long day I started at 2:30 AM this morning and drove 160 miles to install a machine. It's 11 PM and I just got home... As soon as my Canadian Bacon is done soaking and placed in the fridge I'm off to bed.
JT
Sorry where do you take your rails? Could Bradley sell a couple to me can i buy any some where? I'M interested to upgrade my 4 racks into 12 so if you know where to get the rails let me know pls. THX
Quote from: toker on November 27, 2009, 04:00:57 AM
Sorry where do you take your rails? Could Bradley sell a couple to me can i buy any some where? I'M interested to upgrade my 4 racks into 12 so if you know where to get the rails let me know pls. THX
Just click on Scott's Place. (http://www.smokeandstuff.com/) They have the kit's for sale there.
Thx for the link can i pay with paypal and do they ship Canada? If so, I'm in :P
Scott does take Paypal, for shipping send him a message. He's gone hunting right now through the end of the week but he will get back to you. I just installed a kit in my Bradley, easy to install and fits great. Plan to use it later today on a batch of jerky and will post the results.
Hope he'll accept to ship here in Canada. I'M ready to pay for the extra shipping cost. And is the complete circulation fan kit ready to be ship? I see the coming soon but i also see the number on get a quote if so I'm very interested as long as its complete with the bar behind the tower, the collar around the blades inside the tower and the electric box for the back of the fan.
Toker
They definitely ship to Canada because I did get some stuffer tubes from them. As far as the complete fan goes you will have to wait to here from them as far as availability and what comes with it. I do suspect though that the fan is complete except for the shield (or collar as you refered to it). If it doesn't come with the shield it is really very simple to make. Here is a link to the one I made.
http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=6843.0
Mike
Glad to hear they ship to Canada and glad to meet you MR.WALLEYE. From what i read you are some kind of mod expert? Great you will be able to answer it; i want to add an extra heat element for the heat recovery of course controlled by pid but, would it affect the fan accuracy like i seen on recipe site? What does it change? Would be a perfect set up along with this rack mod. Anyway back to this mod, i seen that the 2ND rack of each series doesn't seems to be inverted is it true or is it my eyes? May not be ideal for thicker load like bacon or brisket? ??? What is the difference?
Toker
Definitely not an expert but I do love to play with the mods. ;)
You can do the additional heat element mod which will not interfere with the circulation fan mod. I currently run both myself. It is definitely a "must" to control it with a PID with the 2nd heater mod because it is capable of gaining heat rapidly.
As far as the rack mod goes your eyes are not deceiving you. Each rack is up-right (not inverted). The advantage to them being this way is you don't have to "juggle" racks like you do when using the inverted method. As far as doing brisket or butts when you have done this mod you just use the appropriate rack height to allow the correct spacing. Basically, this rack mod gives you more options for placement of the racks in the smoker in addition to having the ability to have a larger capacity for things like jerky, nuts or spices.
Mike
Scott got back Sunday night late and is playing catch up on e-mails and stuff. I talked to him yesterday and he said he only had 250 more emails to read and he is caught up :o
Mr, Walleye,
I noticed you put the thermocouple for your PID completely inside the smoker. How does that work for you?
I just drilled a hole in the back and stick it through... I don't leave the PLC outside with the smoker so I need to roll up all the cords and probes after a smoke.
John
Hi John
Overall it works very well. I have it mounted midway in the tower so sometimes a large chunk of meat on the lowest rack will influence the temps slightly but because I know this I will compensate for that. I usually don't use the bottom rack unless I have to anyway. I have the TC wire running through the vent. Here is a link to the simple bracket I made to hold the TC about an inch off the rear wall. (it's several pictures down in the post)
http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=6843.0
Mike
I have been real busy with the holidays and a new CNC lathe here in the shop so not much time to cruse the net...
I've found that leaving a gap in the middle of the racks about 2" speeds in the drying of the jerky. When I completely filled all 12 racks the center took a longer time to dry out. Leaving a gap when the smoke stopped the steam coming out looked like smoke. It shortened the time by a couple of hours for sure.
On the subject of eye of round I have found that fresh from the shop, clean the fat off and cut in half the par freeze then slice on the slicer works better than thawing a frozen piece and trying to slice it.
Just thought I would share my experience on this...
John