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Title: Gold prospecting...
Post by: rdevous on November 04, 2009, 08:56:20 AM
 
I was wondering if anyone here went gold prospecting....when you are not smoking a fattie or a butt....of course?   ::)

Are you a member of the GPAA or LDMA?

If you prospect...what method of recovery do you use?  I have a Trinity gold pan.  I love watching the gold prospecting shows on the Outdoor Channel.  I drool looking at the Keene dredges and sluice boxes in their catalog......Secret Santa are you listening???   ;D ::) ;D

Wish I lived on the Alaskan coast.

Ray
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: ArnieM on November 04, 2009, 10:17:49 AM
I go gold prospecting in the safe. 

I could barely get the safe up the stairs when we got it.  Now I can't move it at all; my wife has it filled. 

I was thinking of putting a couple of pounds in the OBS for heat retention ...
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: classicrockgriller on November 04, 2009, 10:48:40 AM
I go prospecting for "Gold Diggers", just getting too old to catch them anymore.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: ArnieM on November 04, 2009, 10:53:22 AM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on November 04, 2009, 10:48:40 AM
I go prospecting for "Gold Diggers", just getting too old to catch them anymore.

You're not too old.  Just not rich enough for them to take the bait.  ;D
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: classicrockgriller on November 04, 2009, 10:57:23 AM
Quote from: ArnieM on November 04, 2009, 10:53:22 AM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on November 04, 2009, 10:48:40 AM
I go prospecting for "Gold Diggers", just getting too old to catch them anymore.

You're not too old.  Just not rich enough for them to take the bait.  ;D

True, broker than your OBS. ;D
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Roadking on November 04, 2009, 12:27:19 PM
I've watched most of the shows, pretty cool. Never got into it wife would kill me.
You tell me if she would kill me, things I'm into as of now:
1. golf
2. Bow hunt locally
3. Riding my Harley (Roadking) most of the time
4. Hunting trips out west
5. Radio Control airplanes powered by gas 50cc - 150cc engines
6. Once in a while about ever 4-5 years fishing trips to Canada.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: classicrockgriller on November 04, 2009, 01:02:48 PM
RK, what is your handicap? Mine is picking up the clubs. Use to be a 5, now probably a 10. Back not as limber as it use to be.

One of the boys that works for me lives out by the remote airport and said a man came out the other day and had been working on a plane for two years and was doing its maiden voyage. Like a 12 or 15 foot wing span. The plane went up and he flew it around and then it had a mind of it own. the controls wouldn't control it anymore and they watch it fly off. Never did see it crash, just flew off.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Roadking on November 04, 2009, 02:58:54 PM
Haven't played golf in about a year. Hip gives me a problem. A average game for me was around 104, once in a while I'd break 100 maybe once or twice a year and I count every stroke. No mulligans allowed or moving the ball for a better lye.

Oh yeah, used to shoot Ipsc with my race guns. Four matches a month which consisted of 190 to 230 rounds per match and 2000 rounds of practice each month. Stopped that also because of the hip.

Plane locks up like that it's usually the batteries went dead and it goes into what they call "Fail Safe". I turn that off and all of my radios.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: ArnieM on November 04, 2009, 04:55:58 PM
Quote from: Roadking on November 04, 2009, 12:27:19 PM

1. golf
When I was a kid, the guy next door built a putting green in his backyard.  He worked for Sikorsky aircraft and had bunches of golfing trophies.  I played on his green and beat him and his kid.  They weren't very happy.  That was it for my golf.
2. Bow hunt locally
Nope.  I have a 'teen' compound I occasionally shoot at squirrels with.
3. Riding my Harley (Roadking) most of the time
I drove an old BMW around a lawn once or twice when I was a teen.  Now I go for A/C, heated seats and cruise control.
4. Hunting trips out west
Nope.  Did upland game here in Connecticut when I was younger.
5. Radio Control airplanes powered by gas 50cc - 150cc engines
Now that's fun.  I built one once, a top wing, probably a trainer that could fly itself.
6. Once in a while about ever 4-5 years fishing trips to Canada.
I get my fish at the market.  It's cheaper.  But, no farm raised stuff!

Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 05, 2009, 02:13:39 AM
rdevous,

Thanks for posting this, it got me interested. I did a search and there are several areas in New York that one can go gold prospecting. I may check this hobby out.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: car54 on November 05, 2009, 02:34:59 AM
Roadking,
Do you have any pictures of your planes. When my grandson started go kart racing, his angine was 50cc's. Those must be some big planes.

Brad
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Hopefull Romantic on November 05, 2009, 04:51:30 AM
This may night be "gold prospecting" as you know it but happened to couple of friends of mine some 20 years ago.
A very old Turkish gentleman who was a soldier in the Ottoman army came to Jordan and got together with the sons of his old Jordanian friends. He told them about a map he has showing the place where they have buried two big boxes of gold in the desert when the ottomans were retrieving against the alleys attacks. As all the signs have changed, they were able to located the exact place 3 months later, and started digging into the late night and decided to continue in the morning. They had a couple of tents not too far from the site. During their sleep, it started raining and part of the dogged area caved in revealing the gold. When they woke up, they found that the boxes were emptied by what they suspected was a goat Herder that beat them to it while they were sleeping.

A true story.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Caneyscud on November 05, 2009, 06:38:05 AM
Thrice - kinda

First 40 years ago at some Indian Reservation in New Mexico - rather touristy.  They were also selling totem poles as Plains Indian souvenirs.
Next was at this touristy place in Ketchikan I believe - But it might have been elsewhere - my memory is foggy as was the weather!
Lastly - Went whitewater rafting somewhere near Seward - the river filled my pockets with silt, found just as much gold then as at the tourist places - zilch!

1. golf
Now why would someone go off and play that maddening game!  Besides you can't go harvest something, drag it back home and smoke it.  Well legally!
2. Bow hunt locally
Gave that up - too many people (most not supposed to be there) on too few acres around here!
3. Riding my Harley (Roadking) most of the time
Not allowed - the chain connected to the ring through my nose (the other end is connected to my wife's hand) isn't long enough to reach any of the Harley dealers in the area!
4. Hunting Fishing trips out west
Fixed that for ya!  Gotta love those rivers in Montana, New Mexico and Wyoming!
5. Radio Control airplanes powered by gas 50cc - 150cc engines
I'm a wimp.  After splashing some model airplane fuel into my eyes - I went electric.  But haven't flown in years.  Only have a crashed plane and one to be built plane left.  Would love to fly one of those jets with the model turbines in it though!  Probably wouldn't enjoy it worry about the cost of a crash!  
6. Once in a while about ever 4-5 years fishing trips to Canada.
On the list to do - my best buddy and I were talking about that over lunch the other day.  He had just gotten back from a pheasant hunt in S. Dakota.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Roadking on November 05, 2009, 08:48:25 AM
Quote from: car54 on November 05, 2009, 02:34:59 AM
Roadking,
Do you have any pictures of your planes. When my grandson stated go kart racing, his angine was 50cc's. Those must be some big planes.

Brad

Wow took me a while to dig up some of the photos.

These two photos are of a planes I scratch built fron a kit called "Mojo" the bottom of the wing is the American flag took 3 days to do counting designing it. I use this plane to practice my stunts.

http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/mj9.JPG (http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/mj9.JPG)

http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/mj7.JPG (http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/mj7.JPG)

The next plane is a "Extra 260" it is 27% of the size of the real plane. This plane has a 50cc gas engine and smoke system. Last photo is a pic of a 50cc engine thats in a Katana that I'm working on.

http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/Extra260 a.jpg (http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/Extra260%20a.jpg)

http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/Extra260 003.jpg (http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/Extra260%20003.jpg)

http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/29_katana4.jpg (http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/29_katana4.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Roadking on November 05, 2009, 08:52:42 AM
Quote from: Caneyscud on November 05, 2009, 06:38:05 AM

1. golf
Now why would someone go off and play that maddening game!  Besides you can't go harvest something, drag it back home and smoke it.  Well legally!


That's what you thing. Bagged a Canada goose so far. One head shot went right down.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: ArnieM on November 05, 2009, 09:16:34 AM
Very impressive planes RK  :D  I've always wanted to try a helicopter.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Roadking on November 05, 2009, 09:20:46 AM
A few of the members in my club are doing the electric heli's. Pretty neat but not for me, getting to old and slow.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Caneyscud on November 05, 2009, 11:34:37 AM
Quote from: Roadking on November 05, 2009, 09:20:46 AM
A few of the members in my club are doing the electric heli's. Pretty neat but not for me, getting to old and slow.

Those little ones are fun.  I work about 4 blocks from Hobby Lobby.  Played with their demo model a few times.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Caneyscud on November 05, 2009, 11:36:20 AM
Quote from: Roadking on November 05, 2009, 08:52:42 AM
Quote from: Caneyscud on November 05, 2009, 06:38:05 AM

1. golf
Now why would someone go off and play that maddening game!  Besides you can't go harvest something, drag it back home and smoke it.  Well legally!


That's what you thing. Bagged a Canada goose so far. One head shot went right down.
I usually just slip on the Canada poop.  ;D ;D ;D  Almost hit a gator once though - trying my darnedest to keep it away from him also.  The HOOK raised its ugly head. 
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Caneyscud on November 05, 2009, 11:36:44 AM
Quote from: Roadking on November 05, 2009, 08:48:25 AM
Quote from: car54 on November 05, 2009, 02:34:59 AM
Roadking,
Do you have any pictures of your planes. When my grandson stated go kart racing, his angine was 50cc's. Those must be some big planes.

Brad

Wow took me a while to dig up some of the photos.

These two photos are of a planes I scratch built fron a kit called "Mojo" the bottom of the wing is the American flag took 3 days to do counting designing it. I use this plane to practice my stunts.

http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/mj9.JPG (http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/mj9.JPG)

http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/mj7.JPG (http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/mj7.JPG)

The next plane is a "Extra 260" it is 27% of the size of the real plane. This plane has a 50cc gas engine and smoke system. Last photo is a pic of a 50cc engine thats in a Katana that I'm working on.

http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/Extra260 a.jpg (http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/Extra260%20a.jpg)

http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/Extra260 003.jpg (http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/Extra260%20003.jpg)

http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/29_katana4.jpg (http://www.thebrunofamilysite.com/docs/images/29_katana4.jpg)

Pattern?
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Roadking on November 05, 2009, 12:14:08 PM
Used to compete in pattern years and years and years ago. Me 62 yrs old can't keep up anymore just don't have the ambition to pratice for competition. Use to compete with Tony Beniti.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 05, 2009, 01:43:51 PM
I was following up on Gold prospecting in New York, and from what I've learned, any gold or any mineral no matter where you find it, even your own property belongs to the state and must be turned over to the state. I guess you can't make a living in this state by prospecting.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Roadking on November 05, 2009, 03:58:07 PM
And your going to turn it in? Right? You find gold in N.Y. it'll be grams at a time.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: ArnieM on November 05, 2009, 04:07:44 PM
Habs, that's why the taxes in NYS are so low  ;D
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: car54 on November 05, 2009, 04:37:28 PM
Thanks for the plane pictures Roadking.

Do you recall a movie called Flight of the Phoenix?

A routine flight in an old flying box car with a broken radio, carrying a group of tired men and worn out tools, encounters a fierce sand storm in the Sahara desert. The men are hundreds of miles from rescue, and nobody knows where they are. With zero chance of rescue and a 10 days supply of water, the group is forced to make a decision. Wait to die or build a flyable airplane using the salvaged parts of the wrecked flying boxcar. They hedge their bets by sending one person out with most of their water, on a trek for help. Then they start to plan and build a plane. One point of conflict is that the aeronautical engineer is German, and World War II is still fresh in everyone's mind. Lots of planning and luck enough to be carrying the basic tools on the plane to do the job. They start to cut up and build. Later the group learns that the engineer designs scale model planes, and second-guesses him. There is a small graveyard where after the crash they bury the victims of the crash and it keeps growing one man at a time during the story, adding a very stark reminder of the consequences of failure. Finally the project is to the point where take off can be attempted. They start the motor, and with a slow and laborious run the contrived contraption manages to take off and fly. We are reminded of a quote the pilot made in the beginning of the story." I can remember when a pilot could just take pride in getting to the destination." We are sure that was the case when they arrived in the home made plane. This story is so well told that there is a debate on if it is a true story or not. Be careful about claiming if it is or not.

I often think about this movie when I think about RC planes.

Brad
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 06, 2009, 01:43:08 AM
Quote from: ArnieM on November 05, 2009, 04:07:44 PM
Habs, that's why the taxes in NYS are so low  ;D

Or you could look at it as the taxes could be much higher! ;D


Quote from: Roadking on November 05, 2009, 03:58:07 PM
And your going to turn it in? Right? You find gold in N.Y. it'll be grams at a time.

I'm a law abiding citizen!! :) I do have to say there are still nuggets half the size of a dime still being found in NY. But like you point out some will follow the law, some will skirt the law, and others will out right ignore the law.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Roadking on November 06, 2009, 05:10:33 AM
Quote from: Habanero Smoker on November 06, 2009, 01:43:08 AM

I'm a law abiding citizen!! :) I do have to say there are still nuggets half the size of a dime still being found in NY. But like you point out some will follow the law, some will skirt the law, and others will out right ignore the law.
Your right, here's what I found :
N.Y.S laws are complex to say at the least, but they are pretty defined that any minerals found in the state of n.y belongs to the state, this includes gold and silver. the laws go back to 1775 the kings law, when the state started awarding land to the people. there has been many claims filed in the state for gold and silver discoveries since the 1700's and some as recent as the 1990's.

"Currently there has been a bill proposed to the state senate and has pasted. The bill has yet to make the assembly to be pasted. This bill # 8023 needs all the support of people to write there assemblyman and ask for there support of this bill. So please contact your assemblyman, we also have a petition and I ask you to please help and sign  this petition. this bill # 8023 will not also allow recreational gold prospectors to keep there gold or silver found in the state of n.y. It will also give a new outdoor activity for families to enjoy. This will also help generate revenue for the state as well.  We may be asked to pay a $10 permit fee with D.E.C to Recreational prospect in the state. I will be well worth it.  So please follow the links below to either sign the Petition Or to the NY Gold site forum for more information on bill # 8023"
Have parents up in Walton, N.Y. where about you from?
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: NePaSmoKer on November 06, 2009, 07:00:53 AM
I done prospecting for 5 years when i lived in Calif. I hade a 5" Keene dredge, Keene dry washer, pans, sluice boxes and all the items you could think of. I am also a GPAA/LDMA member. In my 5 years of prospecting me and my partner recovered approx 2lbs of nuggets and dust. I am also a member of the FMDAC and have been an avid detectorist for 30 years. My finds range from gold/silver coins, clad coins, civil war items, revolutionary war items, gold and silver jewlery and old metal toys as well as all kinds of metal thingies.

Whew ok done  ;D

nepas
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Roadking on November 06, 2009, 07:45:31 AM
I have a White, beaches are the best in the summer and after hurricanes. Stuff I find I never post pictures of it. Got to find the owner of one of the engagement rings I found, was engraved pretty good. Owner lived in Delaware and ring was purchased for $15,000.00. Too bad I found them.  :'(
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Quarlow on November 06, 2009, 07:56:03 AM
I know what you mean RK but just think how happy that couple(especially the guy that bought it) must have been. Hmm...15g's.... That would keep you in bisquettes for along time.LOL
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Habanero Smoker on November 06, 2009, 01:27:59 PM
Quote from: Roadking on November 06, 2009, 05:10:33 AM
Quote from: Habanero Smoker on November 06, 2009, 01:43:08 AM

I'm a law abiding citizen!! :) I do have to say there are still nuggets half the size of a dime still being found in NY. But like you point out some will follow the law, some will skirt the law, and others will out right ignore the law.
Your right, here's what I found :
N.Y.S laws are complex to say at the least, but they are pretty defined that any minerals found in the state of n.y belongs to the state, this includes gold and silver. the laws go back to 1775 the kings law, when the state started awarding land to the people. there has been many claims filed in the state for gold and silver discoveries since the 1700's and some as recent as the 1990's.

"Currently there has been a bill proposed to the state senate and has pasted. The bill has yet to make the assembly to be pasted. This bill # 8023 needs all the support of people to write there assemblyman and ask for there support of this bill. So please contact your assemblyman, we also have a petition and I ask you to please help and sign  this petition. this bill # 8023 will not also allow recreational gold prospectors to keep there gold or silver found in the state of n.y. It will also give a new outdoor activity for families to enjoy. This will also help generate revenue for the state as well.  We may be asked to pay a $10 permit fee with D.E.C to Recreational prospect in the state. I will be well worth it.  So please follow the links below to either sign the Petition Or to the NY Gold site forum for more information on bill # 8023"
Have parents up in Walton, N.Y. where about you from?

I'm east of that Walton. I already saw what you have posted. I learned of that information prior to typing my last post. A lot of information is posted on this site NYGoldsite (http://www.nysgoldsite.com/)
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Roadking on November 06, 2009, 01:40:57 PM
If I were gold hunting as a recreational prospecter I still wouldn't give them any. Law of no law.
Pretty soon you'll have to pay for the air you breathe or be taxed on it.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Caneyscud on November 09, 2009, 05:36:16 AM
Quote from: car54 on November 05, 2009, 04:37:28 PM
Thanks for the plane pictures Roadking.

Do you recall a movie called Flight of the Phoenix?

A routine flight in an old flying box car with a broken radio, carrying a group of tired men and worn out tools, encounters a fierce sand storm in the Sahara desert. The men are hundreds of miles from rescue, and nobody knows where they are. With zero chance of rescue and a 10 days supply of water, the group is forced to make a decision. Wait to die or build a flyable airplane using the salvaged parts of the wrecked flying boxcar. They hedge their bets by sending one person out with most of their water, on a trek for help. Then they start to plan and build a plane. One point of conflict is that the aeronautical engineer is German, and World War II is still fresh in everyone's mind. Lots of planning and luck enough to be carrying the basic tools on the plane to do the job. They start to cut up and build. Later the group learns that the engineer designs scale model planes, and second-guesses him. There is a small graveyard where after the crash they bury the victims of the crash and it keeps growing one man at a time during the story, adding a very stark reminder of the consequences of failure. Finally the project is to the point where take off can be attempted. They start the motor, and with a slow and laborious run the contrived contraption manages to take off and fly. We are reminded of a quote the pilot made in the beginning of the story." I can remember when a pilot could just take pride in getting to the destination." We are sure that was the case when they arrived in the home made plane. This story is so well told that there is a debate on if it is a true story or not. Be careful about claiming if it is or not.

I often think about this movie when I think about RC planes.

Brad

Brad,  I usually get real thirsty when I watch that movie.   I like the movie a lot!
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Hopefull Romantic on November 09, 2009, 05:56:02 AM
Roadking that is a beautiful movie. Teaches perseverance.

HR
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Roadking on November 09, 2009, 06:59:34 AM
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on November 09, 2009, 05:56:02 AM
Roadking that is a beautiful movie. Teaches perseverance.

HR

I watched both of them. I enjoyed the first make of it alot more then the second make. Released in 1943 with Humphrey Bogart.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Hopefull Romantic on November 09, 2009, 07:21:26 AM
I was talking about the old one. The new release was not anywhere near as good.

I think though you mean the 1965 release with James Stewart. But you are right Humphrey did film a movie in the same desert (supposedly) in 1943 and was called Sahara. I think.

HR
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Roadking on November 09, 2009, 07:29:25 AM
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on November 09, 2009, 07:21:26 AM
I was talking about the old one. The new release was not anywhere near as good.

I think though you mean the 1965 release with James Stewart. But you are right Humphrey did film a movie in the same desert (supposedly) in 1943 and was called Sahara. I think.

HR
You are absolutely right. How the heck did I get shifted to Sahara. I have both of them. They were both better then the newer ones.
Title: Re: Gold prospecting...
Post by: Hopefull Romantic on November 09, 2009, 07:36:23 AM
Quote from: Roadking on November 09, 2009, 07:29:25 AM
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on November 09, 2009, 07:21:26 AM
I was talking about the old one. The new release was not anywhere near as good.

I think though you mean the 1965 release with James Stewart. But you are right Humphrey did film a movie in the same desert (supposedly) in 1943 and was called Sahara. I think.

HR
You are absolutely right. How the heck did I get shifted to Sahara. I have both of them. They were both better then the newer ones.

The surrondings were similar and yes you are right bot the old ones are better than the new ones. "They SUre Dont Make Them As They Use To".


HR