I tried calling the guy on this:
http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=14044.0
When I finally made it back to Houston, he had sold it.
So I have been trying to hunt down another and I found this one.
(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Future%20Smoker/3ne3k03m45T65P85R0a27cd2718e4a76b15.jpg)
(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/Cajun%20Microwave/Future%20Smoker/3ne3mf3o05T95Pd5R1a271a9794650ec817.jpg)
It's big and it might be too big.
48W x 32D x 68H
Price is $100 and a two hour drive.
Would like some feedback on the pros and cons.
CRG
No technical advise here but....
You cannot even buy a Bradley for 100 bucks !
Is it open in the middle, or 2 separate insulated compartments?
open in the middle.
I would probably use it for just a 200* or lower smoker.
You could mount a Traeger firebox on it and that should do the trick..
hmmmmm
Smoke/Heat all in one pkg.
Quote from: classicrockgriller on February 16, 2010, 08:29:26 AM
hmmmmm
Smoke/Heat all in one pkg.
I'm sure it would do the trick.. You'll just need to make a big heat shield for it. Maybe raise it up a bit so you could slide a big sheet pan under the firebox to catch the ashes, etc.
You could even mount a BPS generator on it (on the other side) for 'extra' smoke. Or for a mix of smoke..
Just called Traeger and getting that part maybe a no.
This place sells gas fired kits..
http://gassmoker.com/c-burner.htm
A couple of 1500 watt elements, an SG (or two) and you could hang TWO pigs in there!
Me, I don't know where I'd put it!
I do have two BPS!
Too big...is there such a thing? I say get it, I would love to see the pictures of what comes out of that thing ;D Mine is about half as big, I really need to get working on it. I bought a 5500 watt 220V heating element for mine for under $20, at 110V it runs at 1300 watts or something like that.
SIA
And you could use your super-PID to keep it reigned in..
I don't to miss out on it, if it will make a good smoker.
With BigJohnT's kits, what is that a 80-rack smoker?
Speaking of that, finding racks may be an issue....
I have one just like that collecting dust in my shop, its 5' 4" high and 4' 4" wide on the out side not including the legs.
Quote from: OU812 on February 16, 2010, 01:18:13 PM
I have one just like that collecting dust in my shop, its 5' 4" high and 4' 4" wide on the out side not including the legs.
Why? As sharp as you are that thing should be smokin!
Made a smaller one this summer for a friend and have one thats more like the first one you looked at last month in the proses for me just need to get it finished.
The big one I'm still workin out how the baffles need to be to get even heat from side to side. It will have 2 heatin elements.
Quote from: OU812 on February 16, 2010, 01:36:32 PM
Made a smaller one this summer for a friend and have one thats more like the first one you looked at last month in the proses for me just need to get it finished.
The big one I'm still workin out how the baffles need to be to get even heat from side to side. It will have 2 heatin elements.
Well you need to hurry up so you can help me. ;D
My wife tells me I spend to much of my time heplin others to get my own crap done, and shes right. But what can I say, a favor for a favor goes a long way.
Be glad to help in any way I can my friend.
Is that item insulated? That would make a big difference in the heat capacity. Some where I had a link to the amount of BTU's needed in relationship to the size and insulation value. I'll try to find it.
Brad
I'd buy it. If you don't have time to convert right now you could always use it as a guest bedroom while you're waiting.
For the one similar to the one in CRG pic I come up with 3984 watts
Average insulation for a smoker 2' 6" deep, 4' 4" wide and 5' 4" high.
Temp increase= 200 F
Sq. Ft.= 2.5 x 4.33
Height= 5.33
Btu= 13600
Watt= 3984
Thats what I came up with for the one I was buildin.
Had Wifie wire him the money and I am gonna try and pick it up thurs or friday.
It was a commerical Fridgerator. I would imagine it is insulated pretty good.
What is the BTU output of the BPS smoke gen?
Not sure, BUt I will check.
The one recommended that you posted was 14,000.
The web page has nothing listed for BTU's
I'm thinking just one BPS for smoke, then the primary heater (gas or electric) for the cooking 'ooomph'..
If you did electric, you could control it with your PID. Not sure how to control the gas ones..
I was thinking using the Bradley generator from Gabi for the smoke and two 1500 watt elements from a Brinkman.
But I really don't know.
I don't want to spend a bunch of $$ on it but I want it to work when I turn it on.
I've been using electric stove top elements with drip pans like on the older stoves. Then make a false bottom for the smoker and cut a hole in the false bottom to sit the drip pan in, just like a stove. Works great and you can get them almost every where.
HUH?
Hey CRG if you look on Ebay there are a lot of heating elements. For example the one below is a industrial pizza oven heating element for $25.00, it puts out enough heat to get a pizza oven up to 575 degF.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Heating-Element_W0QQitemZ230434410891QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a6f6118b#ht_732wt_939 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Heating-Element_W0QQitemZ230434410891QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a6f6118b#ht_732wt_939)
SIA
Heating element (http://www.lowes.com/pd_133889-2251-5304431014_4294857912_4294937087?productId=1014259&pl=1¤tURL=/pl_Range%2BAccessories_4294857912_4294937087_)
Drip pan (http://www.lowes.com/pd_107963-2251-5304430992_4294857912_4294937087?productId=1001999&pl=1¤tURL=/pl_Range%2BAccessories_4294857912_4294937087_)
I just threw away a 3 'burner' electric "tabletop range" that I got at Walgreens of all places. It had 3 of these electric elements, three rheostats and drip trays all packaged together. I think I paid 20 bucks for the whole thing?
I do have 3 of these:
(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af165/classicrockgriller/MISC/101_0283.jpg)
Not the cold gen but the "hot plates"
CRG
I had problems with the rheostat burnin out on those hot plates. They cant handle the heat and smoke from the inside of the smoker.
ok, good to know. Thanks.
you should be able to pull that hot plate apart and lengthen the reostat wires and mount it out side of the cabinet somewhere, at least thats what i was gonna do with mine if I ever get started
CRG
I just re-wired my big smoker to 220 this last weekend. I used a 3000 watt oven element. This replaced two 1100 watt finned strip heater. The oven elements are cheap... about $25. Running empty, I can hit 200 degrees in about 20 to 25 minutes from cold. works very well.
Mine is about half the size of yours. If I remember correctly, Iceman has a 2 door unit like that. I think he runs 2 large elements in it as well.
I'm not done with mine just yet. I'm waiting for some parts from Auber to setup a secondary controller which will operate as a high limit control in conjunction with a contactor. Because I have mine built into my heated garage I want it to be as safe as possible. Total cost for the additional controller and the contactor is about $50 so it is a fairly cheap safety device. By doing this if my main PID or SSR or TC failed and allowed the element to run full throttle once the temp hit the preset level on the second controller all power is shutdown by the contactor. Once I get this all put together I will post some pictures and details.
I'll try and grab some pictures of my new element setup for you as well.
Mike
Mike, your always improving or tinkering...nice
SIA
I've been so busy at work and home I haven't had time to play. I gotta get caught up! ;D
Anyway, I ran out to the garage and took a couple of pictures of the element install and the drip pan setup.
Here's one looking down showing the drip pan protection...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/mmike/Fishing%20Photos/IMG_0576_800x600.jpg)
Here's another one showing a front view of the drip pan setup...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/mmike/Fishing%20Photos/IMG_0574_800x600.jpg)
This is a little closer view of the same angle...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/mmike/Fishing%20Photos/IMG_0575_800x600.jpg)
Here is one with the drip pan above the element removed.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/mmike/Fishing%20Photos/IMG_0578_800x600.jpg)
The one thing the picture really doesn't show is the sheet pan under the element is spaced about 1 inch off the bottom of the smoker. I did this to allow some cooling effect to the bottom of the smoker.
Mike
that looks like it will provide some even heating. are you still using the blower?
SIA
I am still using the blower. I have the intake drawing air from the element area and exhausting it above the higher drip pan. I haven't smoked anything since I did it on the weekend but did run a few tests and the cabinet temps, once at your target setting, are pretty even in the cabinet.
Mike
Thanks for posting the pics Mike.
I "hope" to pick up the fridge Friday and I will post some more pics of it.
I hope this is not out of my mentality to do.
I do have a smart friend that can help me.
I need someone to do mine too. I not very eeeeeelectronicly savvy :D
Well did ya pick it up today CRG?
SIA
Quote from: smokeitall on February 19, 2010, 03:27:15 PM
Well did ya pick it up today CRG?
SIA
The guy had to go out of town, it will be Tuesday.
Cool... Gives ya more time to consider CRAZY ideas ::)
Quote from: hal4uk on February 19, 2010, 05:38:44 PM
Cool... Gives ya more time to consider CRAZY ideas ::)
I hope it don't get too crazy!
Quote from: OU812 on February 16, 2010, 02:26:27 PM
For the one similar to the one in CRG pic I come up with 3984 watts
Average insulation for a smoker 2' 6" deep, 4' 4" wide and 5' 4" high.
Temp increase= 200 F
Sq. Ft.= 2.5 x 4.33
Height= 5.33
Btu= 13600
Watt= 3984
Thats what I came up with for the one I was buildin.
OU812 do you have a formula that you used to get this? I need to figure out 1 for 25"deep 21"wide 62" high sorry to hijack CRG
QuoteOU812 do you have a formula that you used to get this? I need to figure out 1 for 25"deep 21"wide 62" high sorry to hijack CRG
Here is a site that may help.
http://www.heatershop.com/btu_calculator.htm
thanks Brian!
Left coast a 2x2x5 at 250* = 5500BTU or 1611 watts
at 200* = 4400BTU or 1289 watts! (that was for tight insulation)
For Average insulation: @200 = 8800BTU or 2578 watts
@250 = 11000BTU or 3223 watts
Thanks again Brian!
Thanks Brian and CRG I was just on there fooling around, I think this thing would be considered well insulated and tight but I'm going to have a look anyway.
LCS
You get your "Future Smoker" yet?
OU, I thought I posted an answer, but quess not.
I haven't been feeling up to par, but am hoping to do that Thursday or Friday.
Need to do it this week as my Son#1 is getting married next week.
Also, I got a call from people that had Future Smoker #1, seems the other people
never came and got it. I am going to Houston tomorrow and if it is there, it is
coming home with me also. Then I can decide which way to go.
This is gonna look like "Back to the Future" when you get all this...
Reckon you could beat all that stainless steel into the shape of a Delorean? With a smokestack?
Sad to here you've been under the weather lately, get well soon my friend.
This auta be fun, what to do with 2 future smokers, what to do, what to do?
Future Smoker 1 was gone, it had been sold.
But I will post pics tomorrow of the one I brought home with me today Future Smoker 3.
I like this one so much I may just make a storage container out of Future Smoker 2.
Old dead refrigerators make great storage containers, we have one full of welding supplies and our helmets. Keeps the dust, moisture and mice out. You should see the look on peoples faces when they open it.
Priceless.
I unloaded the FS 3 and left it beside the House where we park.
Wifie was going somewhere and didn't see it till she backed up.
She sat in the driveway for 10 minutes staring at it.
I know when she comes Home, I will get the "stare" and maybe a spankin'.
Quote from: classicrockgriller on March 04, 2010, 07:27:18 AM
I unloaded the FS 3 and left it beside the House where we park.
Wifie was going somewhere and didn't see it till she backed up.
She sat in the driveway for 10 minutes staring at it.
I know when she comes Home, I will get the "stare" and maybe a spankin'.
I get the same thing, along with a shake of the head as she drives away.
I bet you cant wait till the "stare" is done so you can get your spankin. ;D
Gawwwwwwd...
I'm just tryin' to figger if that's good or bad?