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Title: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: smokingthemidwest on April 25, 2010, 06:40:17 AM
Hello everybody I have a quick question. Getting a hog in two weeks. Talked to the butcher and he is going to give me the hams fresh and the pork belly. I was just wondering if there was any good books or anywhere i can get good information about curing and smoking the bacon and ham. This will be my first attempt at it so I don't want anything to complicated. Thank you in advance. Smoking the midwest
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: 3rensho on April 25, 2010, 06:48:26 AM
Lot of good information here -

http://www.susanminor.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?180-Our-Time-Tested-and-Proven-Recipes&s=21ad429f5f89a7a91f8dbae513a889e7 (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?180-Our-Time-Tested-and-Proven-Recipes&s=21ad429f5f89a7a91f8dbae513a889e7)
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: KevinG on April 25, 2010, 06:51:44 AM
Not at home now, but these are some of the books I got, I believe the one pertaining to ham and bacon would be Meat smoking and smokehouse design but will check when I get home tonight.

Meat Smoking and Smokehouse Design
Great Sausage Recipes and Meat Curing
Charcuterie
Cold-Smoking & Salt Curing Meat, Fish & Game
The Smoked-Foods Cookbook
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: 3rensho on April 25, 2010, 06:54:28 AM
Here's another good source -

http://lpoli.50webs.com/Sausage%20recipes.htm (http://lpoli.50webs.com/Sausage%20recipes.htm)
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: smokingthemidwest on April 25, 2010, 01:37:28 PM
Thanks for the info i will look through it. Another question is where can i order those nets to make hams? Or if i can get them local i will do that. Thank you in advance
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: Tenpoint5 on April 25, 2010, 02:25:23 PM
Quote from: smokingthemidwest on April 25, 2010, 01:37:28 PM
Thanks for the info i will look through it. Another question is where can i order those nets to make hams? Or if i can get them local i will do that. Thank you in advance
Talk with your butcher he may be able to sell you a couple.
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: KevinG on April 25, 2010, 02:34:13 PM
Here's a link to where you can find some netting if your butcher isn't willing to part with any.

http://www.sausagemaker.com/search.aspx?find=netting (http://www.sausagemaker.com/search.aspx?find=netting)
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: smokingthemidwest on April 25, 2010, 02:55:27 PM
Thanks i will ask him when i drop off the hog. He said he will leave the pork bellies and the hams fresh. I was reading on here that maybe i should see if he will take the skin off? This will be my first attempt so if that easier maybe i will see if he can do it. Thanks for the info. stm
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: KevinG on April 26, 2010, 05:40:57 AM
I checked and Meat smoking and smokehouse design does touch on the history.
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: Tenpoint5 on April 26, 2010, 08:16:12 AM
Quote from: smokingthemidwest on April 25, 2010, 02:55:27 PM
Thanks i will ask him when i drop off the hog. He said he will leave the pork bellies and the hams fresh. I was reading on here that maybe i should see if he will take the skin off? This will be my first attempt so if that easier maybe i will see if he can do it. Thanks for the info. stm
Most of the small locker plants around here in Eastern Iowa all skin their hogs, so he may do it that way anyhow.
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: smokingthemidwest on April 28, 2010, 06:08:18 PM
Thanks for all the great information. Where do you normally get powder dextrose around north western illinois? Thank you for your help
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: BuyLowSellHigh on April 28, 2010, 06:18:47 PM
Here's another source (http://lpoli.50webs.com/Sausage%20recipes.htm).   The site is mostly about making sausages, but down near the bottom of the formulations section are a number of recipes for cured meats that includes variations on bacon and hams.
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: smokingthemidwest on April 28, 2010, 07:05:25 PM
Sorry for all the questions but if i am going to do my ham like 10.5 what wood should i use to smoke it?? I was like going for eight hours of hickory is that going to be to much?? Thank you
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: Tenpoint5 on April 28, 2010, 07:22:04 PM
I am a 8 hour Hickory Man myself when it comes to Hams. North Western Illinois huh? How far is you from East Dubuque, Il?
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: smokingthemidwest on April 29, 2010, 04:49:18 AM
Quote from: Tenpoint5 on April 28, 2010, 07:22:04 PM
I am a 8 hour Hickory Man myself when it comes to Hams. North Western Illinois huh? How far is you from East Dubuque, Il?

About 1.5 hours south east of you. Did some work in dubuque, on lock and dam must of been a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: smokingthemidwest on May 14, 2010, 01:53:53 PM
Well just an update. Smoking some bacon today. Great Midwest weather got me working today when i was planned to be off. So i had to get the MRS. to start it. A little walk through last night and she was good to go. I got home just after an hour of smoking so life is good. Pid controller is holding a steady 160 and the it of the bacon  is 120* so yeah time for a cold brew and wait till its done.
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: smokingthemidwest on May 16, 2010, 05:19:30 PM
Hello everybody got a quick question. Got my hams up to 145* it and wondering if i was going to freeze and cook later what do i have to do after taking them out of the smoker? Do i have to cold soak them to stop cooking or just let them cool and wrap? Thanks for the help
Title: Re: Getting started with bacon and hams!
Post by: Habanero Smoker on May 17, 2010, 02:28:54 AM
I would not put them directly in a ice bath, unless you can protect it from direct contact with the ice and water. If you plan to freeze it; once your ham reaches 150°F - 152°F I would tent foil and let it rest for about 30 minutes. Then cool it as fast as possible before vacuum sealing and freezing.