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Smoking Techniques => Sausage Making => Topic started by: mikeradio on November 15, 2010, 02:17:40 PM

Title: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: mikeradio on November 15, 2010, 02:17:40 PM
I needed 10lbs burger for the sticks I also needed some burger, so I started with 2 chucks weighing in at 40lbs



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All cut ready to grind

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Course grind

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Fine grind

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All sealed in nice 2 lb packages
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All the wet and dry ingredients measured out

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My new 20lb stuffer

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Everything all mixed up including the ECA

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All stuffed and hanging in the smoker

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All ready to cut up into smaller pieces
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The sticks turned out great, the ECA really added a different flavor.

I did have trouble with the stuffer, the meat kept blowing by the seal.
The recipe called for 1 cup of water, I wonder if I should have added more.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: classicrockgriller on November 15, 2010, 02:34:39 PM
Looks great Mike and I see the Big Smoker is taking on a new color.

Thanks for some great pics.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: Sailor on November 15, 2010, 03:58:08 PM
Whoot!  Nice job Mike.  I have the 5lb Grizzly stuffer and I had a hard time pushing the mix thru too.  At some points I thought I would strip the gears.  Never had blow back butt it was a hard push.  More water might be the way to go to get the mix to flow a bit better.  I just eased off the crank a bit and let it flow the way it wanted to flow and them put a bit more pressure to keep it flowing.

Will be making more next week and will add a bit more water and see if that helps out.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: lumpy on November 15, 2010, 04:13:58 PM
Nice job Mike, we appreciate the pictures.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: dAWGS on November 15, 2010, 08:36:15 PM
looks good.    when you say coarse anf fine grind.   what sizes do you use?
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: mikeradio on November 15, 2010, 09:53:18 PM
The grinder came with a 4.5mm and a 7mm plates.  Cabelas says fine = 4.5 mm, medium = 7mm, coarse = 10mm

So I actually used a medium and a fine plate 7mm then 4.5mm

I did buy another cutting blade so I have a blade for each plate, I read its best to keep them a matched set.  The blade and plate wear together
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: pensrock on November 16, 2010, 01:37:29 AM
The only time I had trouble stuffing the sticks was the one time I mixed and let it sit till the next day before stuffing. Then it was very tough to stuff. Since I started stuffing as soon as the ECA was mixed in, I have had no problems stuffing the sticks. I then allow them to sit in the fridge for a good day or so before smoking. I also now have been adding a little more Cayenne and Chipotle to kick it up some more. The posted recipe was so everyone could make and enjoy it, I like it spicier.  ;D
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: KyNola on November 16, 2010, 06:53:50 AM
Nice work Mike!  They look very consistently stuffed and the color is great.  Looking forward to trying my hand at stuffing once I retire.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: squirtthecat on November 16, 2010, 06:55:18 AM

Ditto!

I've got a Grizzly stuffer...     

... in a box.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: KyNola on November 16, 2010, 07:08:05 AM
And I've got a LEM stuffer and Gander Mountain grinder......still in the box. :D
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: NePaSmoKer on November 16, 2010, 07:15:21 AM
I gotta.........oh never mind.....EH   ;D
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: GusRobin on November 16, 2010, 07:18:43 AM
I just have a box :-\
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: bigcatdaddy on November 16, 2010, 07:21:44 AM
Looks great!!!  I'm still waiting on my LEM Stuffer to get here..........I hope they put it in a box!!!!! ;)

BCD
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: mikeradio on November 16, 2010, 07:58:32 AM
Thanks everyone

The jury is still out on the ECA, some do not care for it and others really like the twang
it adds to the taste of the sticks.

I agree pensrock my next batch I will add some more heat, its good to make the
posted recipe first then you have a base line to work off of.

Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: FLBentRider on November 16, 2010, 08:16:15 AM
Quote from: KyNola on November 16, 2010, 07:08:05 AM
And I've got a LEM stuffer and Gander Mountain grinder......still in the box. :D

Mine are still @ the store.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: Tenpoint5 on November 16, 2010, 08:37:59 AM
Quote from: FLBentRider on November 16, 2010, 08:16:15 AM
Quote from: KyNola on November 16, 2010, 07:08:05 AM
And I've got a LEM stuffer and Gander Mountain grinder......still in the box. :D

Mine are still @ the store.
You need to go get them FLB might cut down on that 400 lbs of Jerky you made last month!!! ;D Might turn it into 200 jerky and 200 snack sticks
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: dAWGS on November 16, 2010, 12:39:04 PM
ok maybe a dumb question but when youre making the snack sticks what position is the vent in?   open? closed?
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: Tenpoint5 on November 16, 2010, 12:44:15 PM
Mine was 7/8 open but then Mine is stuck in that position ALL the time. I can't remember when I moved it last.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: mikeradio on November 16, 2010, 12:45:56 PM
The vent on the smoker, I would go full open, your trying to dry them out so you want all the moisture out.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: Sailor on November 16, 2010, 01:26:41 PM
When I did the stixs I had the vent full open to dry.  Then I shut to 1/2 open to smoke.  My vent gets stuck in the last position after a smoke so I have to move it to loosen it up.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: pensrock on November 16, 2010, 01:42:51 PM
Vent full open.



I'm still looking for a box to put something into.  ???  ;D
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: Sailor on November 16, 2010, 02:00:29 PM
Quote from: pensrock on November 16, 2010, 01:42:51 PM




I'm still looking for a box to put something into.  ???  ;D

I so wish that I would have drawn your name for the Christmas exchange.  I would have had a blast.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: dAWGS on November 21, 2010, 05:04:54 AM
whats the maximum time you can keep the stix in the fridge after stuffing and before smoking?
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: pensrock on November 21, 2010, 06:06:31 AM
I do not know the actual answer but I would not be afraid to leve them 3-5 days. I would put them into a zip lock bag though. I'm sure Nepas or Habs can tell you the actual time and why.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: dAWGS on November 21, 2010, 06:55:12 AM
reason im asking is i have time to mix and stuff but wont be able to smoke till like 4 days later
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: Sailor on November 21, 2010, 07:30:34 AM
I would not be afraid to mix and stuff them and put them in the fridge for 4 days if you have cure in.  With that said, I have not taken a class in food safety and I have been known to use my pocket knife to cut fish bait and wipe in on my pants that have not been washed for a week and then use it to cut an apple to eat.  ;D
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: NePaSmoKer on November 21, 2010, 08:09:10 AM
Quote from: dAWGS on November 21, 2010, 06:55:12 AM
reason im asking is i have time to mix and stuff but wont be able to smoke till like 4 days later

I wouldnt let them sit in fridge past 2 days. The collagen casing will get mushy and start to break down.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: Sailor on November 21, 2010, 08:23:20 AM
And there you have it.  Never thought about the casing breaking down.  I learned something today.  Thanks for the input Rick.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: pensrock on November 21, 2010, 10:28:11 AM
So the meat would be ok, its the casings that will fail. Good to know.  :)
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: NePaSmoKer on November 21, 2010, 04:47:39 PM
The moisture in the meat starts to break down the collagen after 2 days in fridge. They get mushy really thin and gooey  :-X

The meat would still be good, just hard to re-stuff.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: dAWGS on November 21, 2010, 05:28:54 PM
ok sounds good.   thanks
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: rcger on November 21, 2010, 06:54:12 PM
Does anyone cut their snack stick before smoking?  I'd rather lay them out on the racks instead of hanging.  Does the meat still stay inside the casings after cutting?
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: pensrock on November 22, 2010, 05:09:13 PM
I lay mine on the racks most of the time. I just tie them off at whatever length I want.
Title: Re: All the talk about Greg's Spicy sticks, I figure I better try it
Post by: drano on November 22, 2010, 06:37:32 PM
Awesome looking sticks. 
I like the grinder and stuffer too--looks a lot like my toys which are a Cabala's 1/2 hp grinder, 11 lb  stuffer.  I need to get some sausage and sticks made--been too long.  But next up are 2 batches of beer over the weekend, but that's another story. 
I've never had meat go past the seal, but I stuff immediately after grind/mix.   And I added the motor a while back--wow, that's nice.  Sure makes the arm feel better after a batch of sticks. 
Hope I get a deer over the weekend so I can make some sausage.