I admit it, I have dumped several brines down my sink that have salt and cure in them. Does anyone think that this would kill the benificial bacterias in my Septic tank and should I add supplemental bacteria treatment. Sorry for such a crappy question :-X
Not sure about the salt, but it is probably not good for the tank. It never hurts to dump some treatment into the tanks.
The title of your post attracted my attention. I was wondering if I had missed a curing technique I should try ;D.
There are so many other chemicals get dumped into the waste water such as dishwasher water and bath shampoos that the occasional bit of brine probably won't make a difference but no harm in encouraging the good bugs with a dose of treatment. Some say a dead cat also works well for that but that is not something I have tried.
I just did some quick research re: added salt loads to a septic system from a water softener, and it looks like the amount of brine you're dumping doesn't have a negative effect. You'd be putting less sodium in than a regenerating water softener. With the dilution factor, the additional ppm would be negligible.
Thanks salmonsmoker, its really hard spending 5 bucks on ridx and then flushing it down the drain.
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I have a brother who's a civil engineer in sewage and water treatment, and if I remember correctly( jury's still out on that ;)) he said if your septic tank is healthy you don't need anything like Ridx. Just a waste of money. The one thing I don't remember, is if the the stuff helps if your septic tank is feeling like crap. ::)
I really like the cat idea. ;D
It's certainly worth a try.
Quote from: slowpoke on February 16, 2012, 01:50:42 PM
I really like the cat idea. ;D
To much work diggin up them concrete lids and I really dislike cleaning my grinder :D
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I know people who never had their tank pumped for over 80 years. But it's not recommended. THere is just me and the wife and I pump every 3 years on the advise of a friend who does this for a reason. Costs 150.00 to pump and a lot cheapier then digging. We also mix regular bread east about 1/2 a small block and warm water together . Then dump in toilet and flush. And vinigar and baking soda to clean drains. So far no problems! I dont have water conditioner but neighbor does and he's dumped his brine water for over 40 years and does meat also. He also recommends a dead cat in the tank every year. I'll stick to pumping. LOL
We never did a thing to ours in the way of treatment, and it went 17 years until it needed pumping out. Solids build-up, nothing any treatment is going to help anyway. $150 every 17 years is not bad at all.
The only "special" things we do are minimize what goes in the disposal, and liquid detergents instead of powder.
I'd like to know if the service that pumps-out for $150 - $175 will travel to Upstate, NY. We paid about $275 the last time that we need to have the tank pumped. Of course it was in the middle of winter, and of course we had to pay extra to get someone over here with a jackhammer to expose the top of the tank, but we LOVE living here in the COLD WHITE NORTH part of the USA.
If your septic is working well, then a couple of brines won't disturb that. If you think that you are getting above the half-way point, then I strongly suggest adding the Rid-X.
Of course, this is just my Humble (Crappy) Opinion. ;) ;) ;)
Jeff
RidX doesn't do anything about the solids. That's what has to be pumped. Waiting until the tank is full of solids is a sure way to plug the drain field also. Now you're talking thousands upon thousands of $ to replace the whole septic system. I think this topic is digressing a tad. ;D ;D
I was incorrect, ours was over $200 but under $300.
Quote from: FLBentRider on February 16, 2012, 06:19:59 PM
I was incorrect, ours was over $200 but under $300.
mine was about $259 after five years and just did it as a maintenance thing in 2009. I think I will wait ten years next time, Just dont want to wait till it comes up and defys gravity ;) My worst nightmare is having to replace the drainfield. Thanks for everybodys help and comments on this subject
I have rental units. The rentals and my home are all on septic systems. Grease is the biggest enemy to septic systems. I pump the rentals every 3 to 5 years and mine every 10. We do not use a disposal, absolutely no grease goes down the drain. We actually use paper towels to get it all. We also use toilet tissue that simply disolves in water. All they get out of mine when it is pumped is liquid. I do not treat mine at all.
Quote from: Wildcat on February 16, 2012, 07:09:27 PM
I have rental units. The rentals and my home are all on septic systems. Grease is the biggest enemy to septic systems. I pump the rentals every 3 to 5 years and mine every 10. We do not use a disposal, absolutely no grease goes down the drain. We actually use paper towels to get it all. We also use toilet tissue that simply disolves in water. All they get out of mine when it is pumped is liquid. I do not treat mine at all.
I wasn't sure about this, so I sent it to my brother the PE. Here's his reply.
Ken,
This is from a forum that I belong to. Can this statement be true? After 10 years all that's pumped is liquid? Doesn't seem possible to me.
Nope. The sludge on the bottom is liquefied so when it is pumped out, he thinks it is liquid. There are always undegradable materials in wastewater that just don't go away.
It seems to me the always take a long rake sorta tool and stir the crud off the bottom before they suck it out.
It does appear like all liquid (and might just as well be since I never have big blocks of solid). Some things (corn is an example) simply do not turn into liquid. Grease, on the other hand, actually turns into a big hard block with particles of it plugging up the drain field holes. Also, I have a gray water tank which gets things like lint from clothes that can plug fields. The point is that very little maintenance is needed if you take precautions to keep grease and food out of your system. There will naturally be grease and food in human waste, but one can help their systems by taking the precaution of stopping the input of undigested food and grease.
Quote from: slowpoke on February 16, 2012, 01:50:42 PM
I really like the cat idea. ;D
I wonder if Squirt the cat knows about this one :o ::) ;D
Wildcat, you're a nicer guy than me. I'm just sayin'................... ;)
Quote from: KyNola on March 02, 2012, 06:47:24 AM
Wildcat, you're a nicer guy than me. I'm just sayin'................... ;)
lol - I felt a little twinge when I first read his reply, but then decided that he really was not trying to call me a liar, just looking for the truth and he is probably young and did not think. I have been guilty of not engaging brain before my mouth myself many times. I generally do not mind being corrected.
Quote from: Wildcat on March 02, 2012, 01:44:19 PM
Quote from: KyNola on March 02, 2012, 06:47:24 AM
Wildcat, you're a nicer guy than me. I'm just sayin'................... ;)
lol - I felt a little twinge when I first read his reply, but then decided that he really was not trying to call me a liar, just looking for the truth and he is probably young and did not think. I have been guilty of not engaging brain before my mouth myself many times. I generally do not mind being corrected.
Most of the time I just ignore posts like that and give the person the benefit of doubt or issue them a free pass on a "Wolf Ticket". I have to say again; most of the time. :)
;)
:)
Sometimes I have the right to remain silent but just don't have the ability. :o
Well i have the same problem sometimes. To quick to rile and to quick to talk. Write it off as old age. At least I don't punch first no more. LOL Least not on line. ;)
Quote from: viper125 on February 16, 2012, 03:06:19 PM
I know people who never had their tank pumped for over 80 years. But it's not recommended. THere is just me and the wife and I pump every 3 years on the advise of a friend who does this for a reason. Costs 150.00 to pump and a lot cheapier then digging. We also mix regular bread east about 1/2 a small block and warm water together . Then dump in toilet and flush. And vinigar and baking soda to clean drains. So far no problems! I dont have water conditioner but neighbor does and he's dumped his brine water for over 40 years and does meat also. He also recommends a dead cat in the tank every year. I'll stick to pumping. LOL
Seems to me that the bread yeast would be a BAD idea. I'm also into homebrewing and i know that the yeast keeps the bacteria out of the brew! I also have a friend who works at a decent sized brewery, i asked him once about what they do with the waste yeast (was thinking along the lines of making Vegemite. lol). He said they actually just flushed it down the drain for a few of the earlier years until the city threatened to sue them because it was upsetting their whole process (the yeast was killing the bacteria they introduce to, ehem... do the dirty work).
Actually, yeast doesn't keep bacteria out of the brew. It's the alcohol produced by the yeast that helps keep the bacteria at bay. Healthy yeast and a short lag time(growth phase) gets the "jump" on bacteria growth. Then there'a also bacteria like pediococcus and lactobacillus used in Belgian sour ales that don't have any trouble surviving the alcohol produced by brewers yeast. As far as brewers yeast killing the bacteria, not sure about that. The yeast only eat sugar. I rather suspect it's either the organic load or the yeast is changing the pH of the liquor(not to be confused with Jack Daniels) so the coliform bacteria can't do their job very well..
Cheers,
Homebrewer also and BJCP judge