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ICE ARE THESE YOUR BUDDIES. ;D
Around here, in the 'Banana Belt' of Alaska, our cars have bumper stickers that say, "Pray for Global Warming!" ;) ;) ;D
The Witches of Eastwick, I mean the Ladies of the "View" made an interesting correlation last week.
First I must say I don't watch them, just happened to turn on the TV in the hotel room and they mentioned the topic so they got a few minutes of my attention. I needed a good laugh.
The topic was on Cell Phone usage killing off the bee population. (Now if they could get the cell phones to only work on the killer bees, we'd have something.) The stupid comment (IMHO) was that cell phone use was causing global warming. Seems like the uninformed glob onto the Global Warming being caused by everything. I think if Global Warming is happening, then they should cancel the hot air coming out of that show.
I know for a fact the pork and beans i had for late lunch yesterday has contributed significantly... today was much warmer here than yesterday! :P
One thing for sure is we are warming up... but some of these fools come across with the D A M M E ST reasons as to why... they are like they fell off of the turnip truck as a child and now have a flat spot on their foreheads....
Next thing you know they will be blaming watermellon seeds for a women's pregnancy! Lord help us if they ever see an avocado seed...
Come on Olds,
Everyone knows the avacado seeds are a cause of alien pregancy. Nasty little beggers they are.
He11 yes ! :o Everyone knows that ! Thanks for the confirmation Giz. ;)
Yeah we're warming up for sure, but the cause? i really don't think anybody can say for sure not without any doubts anyway.
Many people overlook the fact that this world in which we all live, has been changing all the time, ever since it began, otherwise we'd still be in the ice age.
There was an article in a newspaper about 2 years ago, some professor claimed that the hole in the ozone was getting smaller, and in 50 years it would have fixed itself, then about a week later i spotted an article that said the ice cap was melting at an alarming rate, very difficult to know who to beleive, and all the time some government fat cats are dreaming up more ways to fleece us of our hard earned because we're using too much fuel, which we've already paid ridiculous ammounts of tax on?
Will there be a breathing tax one day?, surely just by being alive we're all keeping the temps up? ::)
Not to mention "pork and beans!" haha! that made me chuckle WCK..........(http://www.emotipad.com/newemoticons/Tip-Hat.gif)
Sometimes I think some people get so educated that they get kind of stupid on the minor/subtle issues that come into play. I think they have forgotten that the earth is not actually round, that it actually wabbles on its axis during its rotation, and that the flight path around the sun varies. All of these factors can and do have an impact on temperature. I am sure that ozone, pollution, population, etc. have an impact on air quality and possibly temperature, but I doubt if that alone can cause what is now termed as "Global Warming". It is my opinion that this "Global Warming" is simply a political subject that takes the general public's mind off of other things (diversion). I also think that the earth has been getting warmer and then cooler all the time. I would be willing to bet that when the northern half of the planet is warmer, the southern half is cooler. Just my 1 cent worth.
Quote from: LilSmoker on April 24, 2007, 01:53:15 AM
......all the time some government fat cats are dreaming up more ways to fleece us of our hard earned .......
The REAL "cause" of so-called global warming, LS.....follow the money! Our local city council has established a "global warming advisory commission" in ALASKA?!?!? go figger....won't be long before they figure out a way to fleece us locally ::). Outta change their mantra to "Lie Locally, Fleece Globally" ;) ;D ;D
"Witches of Eastwick", "pork and beans", "alien pregancy"......stop it! I've got to keep wiping sprayed coffee offa my screen! :D :D :D
Quote from: Kummok on April 24, 2007, 09:51:46 AM
The REAL "cause" of so-called global warming, LS.....follow the money!
I'll be darned Kummok if you didn't pick door # 1 and win the prize. BINGO!!!
Money, money, money all for uncle.
Let's see, boats "FROZEN" in the harbor in Homer. Had to cancel salmon fishing derby. How'd global warming do that??? Maybe the politicians just had to much hot sauce with lunch or something. :D ;D :o ;)
Hey Ice,
Speaking of sauce, I sent you an e-mail. I got it yesterday. Thank-you my friend.
Quote from: Wildcat on April 24, 2007, 11:43:39 AM
Hey Ice,
Speaking of sauce, I sent you an e-mail. I got it yesterday. Thank-you my friend.
My Pleasure. Enjoy.
I'll just keep riding my stationary bicycle powered generator to run my BRADLEY ;D
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http://www.greatglobalwarmingswindle.com/
Check it out for an up and coming DVD. The documentary calling Gore's 'New World Religion' into question was available for free viewing not too long ago on YouTube, but ran afoul of copyright with WAG TV, so WAG is putting it out on DVD for US$ 19.99 / £9.99. Haven't seen it yet but looking forward to it.......
I don't claim to be an expert, I am a science teacher, and an environmental science teacher at that. I have explored all manner of proponents, oponents and data with my classes. But it is kind of hard to argue with data about warming trends. While it is true that temperatures have flucuated throughout Earth's history, it has never been to the extent that we are seeing now. There is a direct correlation between CO2 levels and temperature. Some of this comes from natural causes, nothing we can do about that. Some of it is a result of irresponsible clear-cutting of forests, both tropical and temperate which remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. A lot of it comes from the burning of non-carbon neutral fuels, fossil fuels, etc.... Those things we can do something about. Again, I am not an expert, look into actual data for yourselves, not just the political mumbo jumbo spewed by both sides. It is a real phenomenon. Very few scientists will argue that. They debate the cause because it is both politically and financially lucrative. Just my two cents, which again mean very little in the grand scheme of things. Now, let me go start up my SUV and burn down my oak tree in the front yard. ;D ;D ;D
Malc
The Earth has been much warmer in past; Greenland didn't exist and sea levels were much higher. By definition, we have been warming since the last ice age. The question is: to what extent is it anthropogenically driven? We run the fastest computers and codes in the world, but still have to resort to sulfite particulates in the atmosphere to explain why the planet is not as hot as the codes would otherwise indicate.
Of course, the prudent thing to do would be to build more nuclear power plants, but I am in the minority here in California. In fact, it is against the law in California to build a nuclear power plant.
Enrico Fermi
I think this whole global warming is bulls@#t. The earth has been much warmer in the past than it is now. It all comes down to Politics and Money. Think of how many BS jobs have come because of global warming. Its all about the money. If you look at a trend of the temps of the earth over long term then anybody could see that the temp goes up and then back down. I saw a good documentry the other day about it i will try to find the link and post it for yall.
yeah that link posted earlier was the same go to youtube and check it out i must have cought it before they started trying to make money off of it. it is like a nine part series on youtube
to almost quote someone from the forum past... ;) eating pork and spicy beans from a distance ;D
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Quote from: West Coast Kansan on April 25, 2007, 08:01:42 PM
........eating pork and spicy beans from a distance ;D
Pheeeeew....talk about blowing a hole in the ozone layer!?!?!? ;)
Quote from: West Coast Kansan on April 25, 2007, 08:01:42 PM
to almost quote someone from the forum past... ;) eating pork and spicy beans from a distance ;D
Try adding an adult beveage with that one. Keep away from open flame please. (http://www.smileypad.com/v224/Sad/Crowded.gif)
Hopefully this is just healthy discourse, and I am not ruffling any feathers, but global warming is happening. There is a little process called the scientific method that has shown time and time again that the warming trend we are seeing now is coupled both by a naturally occuring upswing(which by the way if you look at past data, some believe we should have already entered another ice age by now, that's another topic) and by increased amounts of greenhouse gases. It, unfortunately, is not a hoax. No scientist worth his degree would argue otherwise. As I stated earlier they debate the cause of those elevated levels for financial and political gain. Data is subject to peer review, documentaries are not, even Mr. Gore's. Look at data, rather than some biased documentary if you want the real story.
In a movie they can spin data any way they want. For example, elevated CO2 levels have been shown to increase plant growth. If plants are growing at an increased rate then they should remove the excess CO2 faster than in the past. That would be great, too bad in the time it takes us to smoke a butt, acres of trees have been removed from the face of the earth(again, I am not against logging, or clear cutting for farming, just saying the chips are stacked against us with this one unless we change some things.)
BTW, not to split hairs, but the ozone hole and global warming are not the same problem. That's all I got, back to the meat. ;D
Malc
Everything be 8) Malc . :)
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You've always provided pretty level-headed information, Malc, and I've always appreciated what you have to say and have subsequently assigned your opinion a higher level of credibility. My own experience is that this forum is great for in-depth discussions dealing with all means of smoking, food hygiene, packaging, etc. and even for some light/humorous discussions of a contemporary subject that has entered the arena of political spice. Based upon my own experience over the last few years, I haven't found it to be fertile grounds for "healthy discourse" of hot topics like global warming, media bias, "neo-con v. secular progressive" type topics. Too many times, it seems to implode under the pressure of debate, usually wounding a few and causing the permanent or temporary "I quit" syndrome. That's as it should be since this is a smokers forum and those kind of discussions can be more opinion forming with friends, stout, and smoked salmon on the deck.....danged computers filter the productive spice out of such discourse anyway..... ;) ;D
I really started this post for iceman humor.Thats it nothing more nothing less.I should have named it something else but me being funny.Decided to get the fire going lol.Ok BACK TO THE FOOD PART OF THIS SEGMENT.The world is 1 big melting pot with us lil guys mixed in the pot .Have a great day and lets leave this topic alone.Just my 2 cents and since i started the post i say its done. ;D ;D ;D Do the i have it. say IIIIIIII .oK Next subject.I really like the idea of nepas working at cabalas now thats funny for real. ;D ;D
Good'nuff.........I'm with ya Rat man. 8)
Implode Alert Level is "High" ::) ;) :D
Hey Rat! I personally LOVED the begining photo. Saw it on here before. Perfect for Iceman - smoking penguin and all! Great for ALL the extreme northern folks imo. You named it correctly. (http://www.smileypad.com/v224/Happy/Grin-Nod.gif)
Quote from: Wildcat on April 26, 2007, 04:36:41 PM
Hey Rat! I personally LOVED the begining photo. Saw it on here before. Perfect for Iceman - smoking penguin and all! Great for ALL the extreme northern folks imo. You named it correctly....
http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=5015.msg45865#msg45865 The penguin still turns.....the bears are waiting for Iceman's sauce! ;)
Quote from: Kummok on April 26, 2007, 01:29:34 PM
Implode Alert Level is "High" ::) ;) :D
Yeah, and in an adiabatic system, the temperature will definitely rise..... :D
Okay, back to my old self: drinking at a distance..... 8)
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Make mine a double Jack Daniels Sparkler 8)........Keepin' it lively , from a far. ;)
Hey Ice, give them bears some of your sauce and charge it to me. I for one would N-E-V-E-R try to smoke a pinguin without it! (http://www.smileypad.com/v224/Personal/Lovin-Wink.gif)
Quote from: Kummok on April 26, 2007, 11:18:54 AM
You've always provided pretty level-headed information, Malc, and I've always appreciated what you have to say and have subsequently assigned your opinion a higher level of credibility. My own experience is that this forum is great for in-depth discussions dealing with all means of smoking, food hygiene, packaging, etc. and even for some light/humorous discussions of a contemporary subject that has entered the arena of political spice. Based upon my own experience over the last few years, I haven't found it to be fertile grounds for "healthy discourse" of hot topics like global warming, media bias, "neo-con v. secular progressive" type topics. Too many times, it seems to implode under the pressure of debate, usually wounding a few and causing the permanent or temporary "I quit" syndrome. That's as it should be since this is a smokers forum and those kind of discussions can be more opinion forming with friends, stout, and smoked salmon on the deck.....danged computers filter the productive spice out of such discourse anyway..... ;) ;D
Well, I try. Agreed rat. Let's get back to smokin' some meat. Anubody got a good recipe for that penguin? ;D
Quote from: Malc on April 27, 2007, 07:48:26 AM
Well, I try. Agreed rat. Let's get back to smokin' some meat. Anubody got a good recipe for that penguin? ;D
Sure do...2 part combo. Prepare and set up as in the picture, with some salt & pepper. Meanwhile, in your BS, do a few pounds of pulled pork. When the pork is done, FTC as normal, and while that's doing it's thing, take the penquin off the spit, skin and debone it, throw all of it in the fire, and eat the pulled pork.
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Nice ;D