Its really scary about IE.
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/111811
nepas
When MS gets out of the browser biz. I consider it payback for what they did to Netscape. Karma's a b***h.
can microsoft get anything right??
and people wonder why i changed from microsoft to linux!!!!
1000 % more secure and stable
Gotta agree with you Beefman. I've almost completely switched to Ubuntu linux at home. (I admit I'm using windows at the moment... Just happened to be using it to push some data to the network drive.) I've also been using firefox as my browser for quite some time now... The latest version(s) of the popular linux flavors have been very easy to install and provide almost all of the windows functionality. Mainly I keep this machine running to use MS Flight Simulator X and SlingPlayer.
I also have a couple of mac minis on my home network. One I use just to keep up with the latest mac stuff. The other I re-formatted and installed Ubuntu 8.10 and use to run the frontend for my home network...
Cheers..
~Nick
I hardly ever use IE anymore almost exclusively use Firefox.
Dang....I have a hard time turning the computer on let alone trying to figure out a different internet thingy. My computer runs so slow most times that I have to kick the hamster from time to time just to get him to run faster to post pics. I think I'm doomed :(
Pretty strange, I am using Vista 64 bit, that I don't really like it that much, and after reading this post I decided to try Mozilla Firefox just for grins. Now I have a spell checker in my posts on this forum. When I do boo-boo it is underlined in red. Why, I dunno. In the Char-Broil Big Easy forum it gives you a chance to spell check before you post. I guess they are using a higher level software than Bradley has provided us.
Give it a try and report your results please.
For anybody that whats it, here is an IE spell checker that I use. It appears on a right click with the cursor over the text area. Works good.
http://www.iespell.com/
Mike
Quote from: Mr Walleye on December 17, 2008, 05:50:25 PM
For anybody that whats it, here is an IE spell checker that I use. It appears on a right click with the cursor over the text area. Works good.
http://www.iespell.com/
Mike
Thanks for the info Mike.
If you have the Google Tool bar, they have a spell checker add on also.
The Big Easy site has a newer version of of "Simple machines forum" then the Bradley site. That is why they have a spell checker. Their search engine is the same which is not very good.
I am surprised that the Bradley site has not been updated. I use IE spell which works fine.
Brad
nick,
i currently use xandros .. and am testing and playing with solaris .. sloaris looks great so far just a pain to set up the first user and it comes with a office suite.
awhile back i talked with a micro soft vp of sales and asked why should pay $ 400 for an operating system and $600 for an office suite when i can get an more stable, more secure operating system and office suite for free that does the same as theres.. he asked which company was giving the operating system and office away for free and i said sun microsystems...
need i say more?
Everyone is more than allowed to use whatever they want. In my world WWWF, DSS, JPAS, & CCR only support IE.
Personally I get real tired of people bashing MS. Let me ask those who think it is good to do so just how many millions of dollars has Sun Microsystems, Mozilla Firefox, Netscape & the rest given to help the world?
Bashing Bill & Melinda Gates is just a weak poor-man's sport. You want to use something else that is find, but stop with the trash talking about a company / family that has given millions and millions to this world in effort to releave suffering.
If MS was to go poof then all of these hackers would then turn their attention to the rest....
Quote from: Oldman on December 18, 2008, 06:16:09 PM
Everyone is more than allowed to use whatever they want. In my world WWWF, DSS, JPAS, & CCR only support IE.
Personally I get real tired of people bashing MS. Let me ask those who think it is good to do so just how many millions of dollars has Sun Microsystems, Mozilla Firefox, Netscape & the rest given to help the world?
Bashing Bill & Melinda Gates is just a weak poor-man's sport. You want to use something else that is find, but stop with the trash talking about a company / family that has given millions and millions to this world in effort to releave suffering.
If MS was to go poof then all of these hackers would then turn their attention to the rest....
Oldman I meant no offense and I am definitely not bashing Bill and Melinda Gates or Microsoft. If it weren't for them I may not have had the job I had for the last ten years. I have all the respect in the world for their altruistic endeavors... I've been a Windows guy for years and still jump in to defend Microsoft and Windows when I see or hear folks taking unfair pot-shots. If it weren't for Microsoft we just may not have the opportunity to have this discussion, in this format.
That being said I am a major tinkerer. I've been in IT for quite a few years and that's just what I do to amuse myself and learn. I am very impressed at the amount of quality, free, open source software available for the linux platform, however there is also a great deal of quality free software for windows also if you look for it. I'm a total computer geek so I spend a lot of time building systems and breaking systems as well as trying out the new stuff; Windows, Linux, Unix, Solaris, or Mac OS... This competition drives innovation...
In a nutshell: Use what works best for you..... and keep on smokin'!!!!
Cheers
~Nick
Quote from: Oldman on December 18, 2008, 06:16:09 PM
Everyone is more than allowed to use whatever they want. In my world WWWF, DSS, JPAS, & CCR only support IE.
Personally I get real tired of people bashing MS. Let me ask those who think it is good to do so just how many millions of dollars has Sun Microsystems, Mozilla Firefox, Netscape & the rest given to help the world?
Bashing Bill & Melinda Gates is just a weak poor-man's sport. You want to use something else that is find, but stop with the trash talking about a company / family that has given millions and millions to this world in effort to releave suffering.
If MS was to go poof then all of these hackers would then turn their attention to the rest....
Not seeing any connection between MS and the Gates Foundation, I don't see how that's germane. Bill can be all the sweetheart he wants now, but how did he get that money in the first place, and how many folks did his company ruin to get there? A man's charity is in no way relevant to the products produced by the company he founded.
As far as "security through obscurity," that's a a fairly hackneyed and bankrupt argument. Windows in general (and IE in particular) have been ridden with holes since day one. It's not because there are so many installations out there, its because it's so easy. More systems across the globe are *nix-based than Windows-based, and rarely hit with the number of successful attacks that MS products have. There's a reason that the Unix kernel has been powering the world for 40 years.
Quote...how did he get that money in the first place...
He worked hard, was / is a smart man that applied all of his talents in a open market place to attain what he has today.
Quotehow many folks did his company ruin to get there?
From the direction of this statement I take it that next you will be upset with Honda, Toyota etc. for the big threes' problems.
QuoteThere's a reason that the Unix kernel has been powering the world for 40 years.
The last time I talked with a friend who owns his own IT consulting business he told me that the vast majority of his clients' servers are Window based.
Quote from: Oldman on December 19, 2008, 05:02:52 AM
Quote...how did he get that money in the first place...
He worked hard, was / is a smart man that applied all of his talents in a open market place to attain what he has today. Quotehow many folks did his company ruin to get there?
From the direction of this statement I take it that next you will be upset with Honda, Toyota etc. for the big threes' problems.
QuoteThere's a reason that the Unix kernel has been powering the world for 40 years.
The last time I talked with a friend who owns his own IT consulting business he told me that the vast majority of his clients' servers are Window based.
All I can base my observations on is being directly involved in the industry since before there was a Microsoft, and watching closely (and being affected by) their practices in the early and middle years. As much as they have "promoted" personal computing to the masses--most of whom that shouldn't be within 100' of a computer, they have also ravaged and stifled growth, innovation, security, thousands of businesses, and any hope of true standards-based computing for years to come. The current executive team has demonstrated that they would prefer to continue the hegemony they enjoyed throughout the 80's & 90's. Thankfully, most of the world is finally catching up and passing beyond the sad state of affairs in Redmond. MS's last five years in particular have been anything but promising, and only their sheer size, cash position, and inertia have allowed them to hold any measure of market dominance.
QuoteAll I can base my observations on is being directly involved in the industry since before there was a Microsoft
Oh the punch card days uh?
Olds, I wonder now many here even know what a punch card Is? ???
Quote from: Oldman on December 20, 2008, 03:18:47 PM
QuoteAll I can base my observations on is being directly involved in the industry since before there was a Microsoft
Oh the punch card days uh?
IBM 026/029's. Played 5200-card pickup on more than one occasion. ;)
"Do not bend, fold, spindle, or mutilate."
Oh, those hanging chads :D
Well I bet the folks 40 and under do not know what punch card system were unless they looked it up.
1970 I went into the resturant business instead of the punch card business... stupid uh? The reason I did was in those days all employee meals were free.
Oh yeah, as a young student I used to carry all my Fortran programs around in boxes of punch cards. Glad those days are long gone.
Quote from: 3rensho on December 22, 2008, 04:44:28 AM
Oh yeah, as a young student I used to carry all my Fortran programs around in boxes of punch cards. Glad those days are long gone.
I accidentally mixed up projects between my Fortran (can't remember if it was IV or '77) and COBOL classes. Hilarity ensued.
Quote from: 3rensho on December 22, 2008, 04:44:28 AM
Oh yeah, as a young student I used to carry all my Fortran programs around in boxes of punch cards. Glad those days are long gone.
Man, I'm glad I'm not the only one here old enough to have done Fortran on punch cards!
I kinda miss the mainframe at work!
C
Wow, way before my time. Did yinz guys use the abacus or did they have calculators? ;D
Slide rules. The personal hand held battery powered calculators were just coming out and some of us couldn't afford them. Besides a Prof. or two (esp. Engineering. Profs.) required the use of slide rules. In 1972 or thereabouts Texas Instruments introduced their first useful pocket calculator (I think it had 8 functions) and the bargain price of about $220.00 - a fortune in those days. Their first was a 4 function (+,-,*, and /) a year or two earlier for $150.00 or so. HP put out their first pocket calculator and first scientific calculator (it could do simple trig) in 1973 or 74 I believe, for right at $400.00, but they were in short supply and often sold for quite a bit more than that. IMHO - even $400 was way too much for something that used Reverse Polish Input ;D I got my first - a TI SR10 for I think $160 in 1975 (by that time the price had come down and it had 8 or 10 functions - no trig. Ahhhh the good ole days! :o
QuoteSlide rules
LOL... man is that not the truth~~! Personally I use to used my fingers and toes. Heh he he he~~!
QuoteSlide rules. The personal hand held battery powered calculators were just coming out and some of us couldn't afford them.
Same situation I was in. Still have my 12" yellow metal slide rule complete with carrying case and belt loop. Talk about a nerd!!