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Title: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 14, 2008, 03:27:17 PM
SD,

Here are the pizza recipes that I use.   They are all from the pizzamaking.com - another forum with a wealth of information. 

Lehman NY Pizza - this is the recipe that I use the most,  needs  to be made at least one day in advance http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,576.msg7407.html#msg7407  It is reply #86

NY Pizza - here is a link to a roadmap of the Lehman NY pizza recipes - you can find different sizes, stand mixer vs food processor, yeast vs. wild yeast, different flours, etc     http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,1453.0.html

Jerry Mac's NY Pizza - start in the morning - uses a poolish - http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,6515.0.html

NY - Steve's quick & easy - I make this when I haven't planned ahead http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,2790.0.html

Chicago -- http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,5402.0.html 

http://www.pizzamaking.com/dkm_chicago.php


Sicilian -  It's in the sicilian section, styled after a PA pizza place, not sure how close to an actual sicilian it is  http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,5656.0.html

Greek Pizza - this is what I grew up on - standard pizza in parts of New England - not a greek pizza as in feta & olives but named this because there are many Greek pizza owners in New England  page 2, reply #20  http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,691.20.html

Apple Dessert Pizza   http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,3904.0.html


I don't use the one below - not my style of pizza but the recipe is a good one:


American - thin http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,1707.0.html
               
                reply 19  http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,1698.0.html


In the recipes above you will see percents next to the ingredients - you can take those and use them in these calculators - change the size, thickness factor , quantity and get a printable recipe   http://www.pizzamaking.com/dough_tools.html

Deb






Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 14, 2008, 03:29:13 PM
Hokey Cats, Deb!  Thanks for going above and beyond!

SD
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 14, 2008, 03:36:28 PM
No problem,  sitting here not really watching Batman Begins.  It really didn't take any time,  kind of like you going to find Kummok's Salmon or Nepas fatty recipe, etc.  You can cruise the sections or search & pull them up quick because you know what you are looking for  ;).   
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 14, 2008, 04:05:46 PM
SD,

I put the Chicago links in.  I didn't check the links in the post - if they don't make sense let me know

Deb

My summer sausage has 14 degrees to go !
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 14, 2008, 04:11:01 PM
Cool, Deb.  Thanks again.  Looking forward to seeing the finished product if you get an opportunity.

SD
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Gizmo on December 14, 2008, 09:17:51 PM
Thanks Deb,
Interesting reading.
After reading through several of those threads and seeing all the different conditions, sure does sound real complicated with friction factors, pane tests, bakers windows and the such.
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 15, 2008, 03:57:05 AM
Giz,

Pizza doesn't need to be that complicated.  I have read the friction factor stuff but ignore it.  Pizza doesn't need to pass the windowpane test.  I do weigh my ingredients to produce more consistent results (you guys get that I'm sure). 

If you have questions let me know,  I have made all the ones I linked to just some more than others. 

Deb
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: pensrock on December 15, 2008, 01:35:45 PM
Deb,
Can you suggest one for a true beginner? Keep in mind I will have to mix by hand.
I like a chewy crust and crisp on the outside. So I'll look for the KA bread flour you mentioned in another post.
Also which is your favorite.
Thanks,
pens
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 15, 2008, 01:44:10 PM
Pens,
The one I posted for you had the exact crust you were asking for.  It was thick but plenty chewy!

SD

PS.  How bout them Stillers?!!!!!
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: pensrock on December 15, 2008, 01:55:03 PM
Great SD. As soon as I can find some of the KA flour I hope to try it out.
The Stillers are going to give me a heart attack! Man they pulled it out at the end again.
I hope they get more out of the offense next week. I do not think 13 points will win that game.
I'm glad no one could see or hear me during the game, I would have looked nuts! Screeming at the television.  ;D
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 15, 2008, 01:59:14 PM
I was the same way!  I'm talking to my brother on the phone (he's a diehard fan as well) and screaming at the TV at the same time.  The wife and Yardapes were just looking at me in shock!  Whenever the Steelers play in a SuperBowl, my brother and I have a standing agreement that we get together for that no matter where each of us may be at that time.  In 95, he even travelled to North Dakota (it was -60F at the time) so we could watch it together.
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 15, 2008, 02:20:14 PM
Quote from: pensrock on December 15, 2008, 01:35:45 PM
Deb,
Can you suggest one for a true beginner? Keep in mind I will have to mix by hand.
I like a chewy crust and crisp on the outside. So I'll look for the KA bread flour you mentioned in another post.
Also which is your favorite.
Thanks,
pens


It's a white & light blue bag.   
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: HCT on December 16, 2008, 05:30:39 PM
Thanks for the links Deb.
When you wrote about Greek pizza I thought of that place all the way up West Main near the Greek church. Don't know if it's still there. :)
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 16, 2008, 05:47:35 PM
Quote from: HCT on December 16, 2008, 05:30:39 PM
Thanks for the links Deb.
When you wrote about Greek pizza I thought of that place all the way up West Main near the Greek church. Don't know if it's still there. :)

I'll have to look for it.  I don't know that area well,  I've only been up that way a few times for dr appts.  I live closer to the East End. 

Antonelli's ad tonight has pork butt for 1.19 lb  (pd 1.59 last week) but you have to buy a case (50-60 lbs). 
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 16, 2008, 05:51:06 PM
That should just be enough to feed that son of yours Deb  ;D
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 16, 2008, 05:56:06 PM
He enjoys the single serve bags of pulled pork that I put in the freezer.  It's an afternoon snack.   I wish I could eat like he can. 


I probably will get a case since I asked for a sausage stuffer for Christmas. 
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: HCT on December 16, 2008, 05:59:47 PM
Deb, I still have a huge butt in my freezer otherwise I'd split it with you. I'm the only one here so meat doesn't disappear that fast, fast, but not that fast. :D :D :D Give me a month or 2.  Is that boneless? That is a good deal.
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 16, 2008, 06:03:52 PM
It doesn't say whether it's boneless but I doubt it.  They only sell bone-in in the case. 

Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 16, 2008, 06:07:42 PM
I actually prefer the bone in pork butt and never take the bone out prior to smoking.  For some reason it seems that the ones with bone in come out much nicer than de-boned for me.  Probably the way I do them but it always comes out better for some reason.

I can eat like your son, Deb.  The problem is I can't burn it off like him  ;D
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 16, 2008, 06:15:24 PM
Quote from: pensrock on December 15, 2008, 01:35:45 PM
Deb,
Can you suggest one for a true beginner? Keep in mind I will have to mix by hand.
I like a chewy crust and crisp on the outside. So I'll look for the KA bread flour you mentioned in another post.
Also which is your favorite.
Thanks,
pens

Pens,

I use this dough whisk to mix my dough before I use the dough hook.  It does an incredibly good job of mixing, much better than a wooden spoon.  It's funny looking and I had my doubts when I first got it  but I love it.  I also have a smaller version for pancake/muffin type batter.  If you don't have a stand mixer or food processor it might be worth the small investment.  Though mixing with a spoon & then hand kneading does work, I did it for years.  

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/detail.jsp?select=C81&byCategory=C153&id=5568

Favorite pizza recipe is the first link but it uses King Arthur Sir Lancelot which isn't available retail. You would have to order on-line from King Arthur or buy a 50lb bag from a bakery or restaurant supply store.  It would also be harder to knead by hand. 


Deb


Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: HCT on December 16, 2008, 06:17:29 PM
Deb, Price-rite up here sells the bone-in for .89. The store is in the k-mart plaza.
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 16, 2008, 06:18:16 PM
Quote from: Smoking Duck on December 16, 2008, 06:07:42 PM


I can eat like your son, Deb.  The problem is I can't burn it off like him  ;D

Well, I could also but I can't burn it off either and it's not all about the weight anymore.  Good cholesterol does not run in my family :(
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 16, 2008, 06:20:19 PM
Quote from: HCT on December 16, 2008, 06:17:29 PM
Deb, Price-rite up here sells the bone-in for .89. The store is in the k-mart plaza.

Butt not picnic?   
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 16, 2008, 06:21:48 PM
Hey Deb,

Does it make a difference in the way the dough turns out doing it by hand versus a food processor?  Reading the KA website leads me to believe that hand mixing turns out a better dough or are they just trying to sell the whisks?

Thanks!

SD
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 16, 2008, 06:32:33 PM
SD,

I'm not sure.  I didn't see that the hand mixing is better.  I think that you can get the same quality,  it just takes a little longer & more muscle to hand knead.

I don't think I would use one if I was using the food processor because the machine will combine the ingredients then knead.  I use a stand mixer and I need to either mix by hand first or use the whisk to combine the ingredients before I can use the dough hook.  It's easier to use the whisk - I don't have to put in on & take it off the mixer.  Saves a minute or so  :D 

Deb
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: HCT on December 16, 2008, 06:34:22 PM
it's a picnic, Deb. .79, not a bad price.
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 16, 2008, 06:39:49 PM
Quote from: deb415611 on December 16, 2008, 06:32:33 PM
SD,

I'm not sure.  I didn't see that the hand mixing is better.  I think that you can get the same quality,  it just takes a little longer & more muscle to hand knead.

I don't think I would use one if I was using the food processor because the machine will combine the ingredients then knead.  I use a stand mixer and I need to either mix by hand first or use the whisk to combine the ingredients before I can use the dough hook.  It's easier to use the whisk - I don't have to put in on & take it off the mixer.  Saves a minute or so  :D 

Deb

Thanks Deb........I might have to try making one of the doughs in the mixer tomorrow and see if it makes any difference.  I also have a hand mixer that has a whisk attachment......might have to give that a try for kicks and grins.  My right hand and arm aren't working so good these days so hand mixing is kinda difficult for me these days.  I sure am glad I'm not Amish  ;D 
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 16, 2008, 06:41:18 PM
Quote from: HCT on December 16, 2008, 06:34:22 PM
it's a picnic, Deb. .79, not a bad price.

antonellis had picnic in their ad too but I don't remember the price.   
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 16, 2008, 06:42:43 PM
SD,

I never tried it in the food processor, I'll have to try that.

Deb
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 16, 2008, 06:52:45 PM
It's a thing of beauty and ease, Deb.  I think they actually sell an adapter for some food processors that assists with making bread, dough, etc., but the mixing/chopping blade works very well also.

My wife also told me to tell you thanks......it was your posts that led me to believe that even I could make GOOD homemade pizza.  She really likes the stuff I was able to put out last time.

SD
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on December 16, 2008, 07:03:37 PM
SD,

My food processor has the plastic dough blade.  I bought the food processor the day after Thanksgiving - got a Cuisinart 14 cup for 1/2 price.  I never thought I needed one before but have changed my mind now.


Deb
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Habanero Smoker on December 17, 2008, 01:59:47 AM
Quote from: Smoking Duck on December 16, 2008, 06:52:45 PM
It's a thing of beauty and ease, Deb.  I think they actually sell an adapter for some food processors that assists with making bread, dough, etc., but the mixing/chopping blade works very well also.

My wife also told me to tell you thanks......it was your posts that led me to believe that even I could make GOOD homemade pizza.  She really likes the stuff I was able to put out last time.

SD

I have the 11 cup Cuisinart, and when I purchased it the machine came with a stainless steel dough blade. It looks exactly like the cutting blade, but he edges are blunt.
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 17, 2008, 05:48:12 AM
I've got a Cuisanart as well but no dough blade  ???

In the words of George Lopez... "I don't get nothing!"  ;D
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: HCT on December 17, 2008, 06:35:15 AM
If I remember correctly in Giada's pizza dough recipe she said to use the chopping blade.

My Cuisinart came with a plastic dough blade.
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 17, 2008, 06:40:46 AM
I'm sure mine probably did as well, however, I fear the female yardape may have grabbed it to use as some sort of accessory for her Barbie or Hanna Montana or whatever else type of doll is in right now. 
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on January 04, 2009, 05:58:39 AM
pens-

Here is the post with the pizza links.



Deb
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: pensrock on January 04, 2009, 09:29:56 AM
Thanks Deb!

Here is my first attempt to making my own pizza from scratch.
I used one of the dough recipes that S.Duck got from Deb.
I had to mix by hand because I do not have a stand mixer or food processor.
I did not know I had to allow the dough to rise so as soon as it was mixed I made the pizza.
I probably did not kneed it like I should have also.
But for my first time it came out pretty good.  :)

Assembled and ready to go into the hot oven.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/pensrock/pizza/pizza003.jpg)

In the oven, just about ready to come out.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/pensrock/pizza/pizza006.jpg)

Out of the oven, ready to eat.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/pensrock/pizza/pizza008.jpg)

Thanks Deb and SD for the help.
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: seemore on January 04, 2009, 09:55:24 AM
pens good job! I just had pizza last night now Iwant more :P
seeemore
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: westexasmoker on January 04, 2009, 09:59:37 AM
MMMmmmmmmmmm.......Pizza!

C
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on January 04, 2009, 10:46:07 AM
Dude.......that looks great!  Very well done for the first try...much like smoking, even when things don't work out exactly as planned, still some pretty darn good grub!

SD
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: pensrock on January 04, 2009, 12:26:56 PM
QuoteDude.......that looks great!  Very well done for the first try...much like smoking, even when things don't work out exactly as planned, still some pretty darn good grub!

SD

Thanks,
I couldn't have done it without Deb and you coaching me on.
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on January 04, 2009, 12:45:59 PM
Really, Deb was my inspiration as well.  All the credit is due to her  ;)  Once you get it down, you won't buy another one, unless you're just too dang tired to cook!

SD

Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Gizmo on January 04, 2009, 08:35:25 PM
Pens I only see two things missing there,
Me eating a piece with a beer.   ;D
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on January 05, 2009, 03:33:41 PM
Pens,

It's beautiful!!!!!!  :)

Deb
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: pensrock on January 05, 2009, 05:22:07 PM
Thanks Deb,
Coming from a master means a lot.  :)

Next try a NY style pizza.
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on January 05, 2009, 05:41:21 PM
If you're looking for NY style, take a look at this guy's site........it reminds me of anatomy and physiology class......most of it was blah, blah, blah until they brought in the female model.  He gets very technical but shows some incredible pizza and pizzarias.

SD

NY Style Pizza (http://www.varasanos.com/PizzaRecipe.htm)
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Gizmo on January 05, 2009, 08:47:12 PM
Quote from: Smoking Duck on January 05, 2009, 05:41:21 PM
If you're looking for NY style, take a look at this guy's site........it reminds me of anatomy and physiology class......most of it was blah, blah, blah until they brought in the female model.  He gets very technical but shows some incredible pizza and pizzarias.

SD

NY Style Pizza
(http://www.varasanos.com/PizzaRecipe.htm)

Thanks for the post Duck,
Some good research material.
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: pensrock on January 06, 2009, 02:17:53 AM
Thanks for the link. Good information.  :)


Ummm I'm still waiting for the female model?  ???
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on January 06, 2009, 04:11:18 AM
Quote from: Smoking Duck on January 05, 2009, 05:41:21 PM
If you're looking for NY style, take a look at this guy's site........it reminds me of anatomy and physiology class......most of it was blah, blah, blah until they brought in the female model.  He gets very technical but shows some incredible pizza and pizzarias.

SD

NY Style Pizza
(http://www.varasanos.com/PizzaRecipe.htm)

Is Evelyne the model you were referring to ;)?  She is a true pizza master - she wrote the original pizza book  "The Pizza Book".  Unfortunately she wrote it before the internet made it easier to get ingredients.  The publisher made her dumb it down for the average person -All all-purpose flour instead of using higher protein flours where appropriate.  She learned from all the old pizza masters.  SD - she has a sicilian  recipe in her book.   - I'll try to remember to get it for you.  PM me in a week if I haven't done it.

Jeff's site is good.  I haven't read through it in a couple years so some things may have changed but... He believes in autolyse (letting the flour & water set for awhile after mixing) and long fermentation. If I remember correctly he has a good dough shaping section.   One of the other things that you will learn there is that NY Style is better with high heat.  His way to achieve this was to snip the lock off his oven so he could cook using the cleaning cycle of the oven.  Something I would not recommend.  It's a disaster waiting to happen. 

He is opening a pizza place in Atlanta,  not sure if it's open yet. 
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on January 06, 2009, 04:35:16 AM
Absolutely....Evelyne looks like she knows her way around making a pizza.  Actually, I was referring to the pizza as well.  They are things of beauty but the technical jargon was the blah, blah, blah for me.  Don't get me wrong.....I was amazed at how much he put into the making of the pizza dough....shows an incredible amout of passion but I have a habit of getting caught up in it and forget about the end goal.

Yea, when he first mentioned temps of 800F to do the pizzas, I figured he was doing them in a restaurant oven.  When I saw he had bypassed the oven's security feature to get temps he does, I saw a house fire in my future and I've been through one of them...one is enough.

I do think he would be extremely successful in opening a restaurant though........you can tell he has a passion for pizza!

I still enjoyed the post and will start looking for more as NY Style to me, is the best pizza  ;D

SD
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on January 06, 2009, 04:41:52 AM
Don't get me wrong,  there is a lot of good info on his website.  I just don't like the whole oven thing.  If I'm ever in Atlanta I will make a point to get pizza because I also think he will be very successful.   


Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: pensrock on January 06, 2009, 01:17:34 PM
Deb,
  At the bottom of his site he lists his favorite pizza places. There are several in New Haven. I'm not sure how far that is from you but it may be worth a road trip. One of them is his #3 of the best.
pens
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on January 06, 2009, 03:53:07 PM
Been to Pepe's but not the others. It's really good.    My cousin & I are due for a trip down that way.  I'm hoping to try Modern or Sally's next.   Lines at these places are usually a couple of hours long.  So even though it's only 45 minutes away it is a good 1/2 day trip just for pizza. 

Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on January 06, 2009, 05:17:48 PM
Deb,

If they take your name down for the waiting list, tell them your last name is Stallone.  I guarantee you that you'll get a seat faster and everyone kind of looks at you like you COULD be a movie star.  It always works for me.

SD
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on January 06, 2009, 05:28:26 PM
SD,

Not sure if the movie star thing would help.  It's a line,  no names, when you get close to the front they might ask how many in your party.  Don't try to go to the front it could be dangerous -  though you are a little bigger & maybe scarier than I am :D. 

Deb
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on January 06, 2009, 05:35:05 PM
I'm quite certain I'm bigger and scarier (looking anyways).  ;D

Well, if you ever get to a place that takes names, give it a try.  Embarrases the heck outta my wife when I do it, but that's never really stopped me before  ;D

I sure wish I lived close enough to a great NY pizza place as you did.  We have a few decent pizza joints here but nobody around here does a NY style pizza.  :(
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on January 06, 2009, 05:40:21 PM
I wish I had more time to do the pizza thing.  NYC is a day trip from here but it's hard to find the free time to do it...    :(

Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Habanero Smoker on January 07, 2009, 02:14:11 AM
There are quite a few NYC style pizza restauraunts located above NYC.
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on January 23, 2009, 04:28:51 AM
A couple of years ago there was alot of talk in the bread world about Jim Lahey's no-knead bread recipe, now he has a no-knead pizza dough.  I haven't tried this yet but figure I would post just in case someone wants it.   It is a no machine needed recipe! 

http://tastingtable.com/entry_detail/99/Jim_Lahey_reveals_his_recipe_for_no-knead_pizza_dough_.htm

Wed. 21 Jan '09
Company Man
Jim Lahey reveals his recipe for no-knead pizza dough

Everything about Jim Lahey's new Chelsea restaurant, Co. (short for "company"), is meant to challenge your notion of a pizzeria. In fact, the word "pizza" appears only once at the restaurant, in a menu disclaimer stating "our pizzas are not always round."
Toppings inspired by non-Italian dishes like croque-monsieur, tarte flambé and pan con tomate spill over the edges of Lahey's bubbly, misshapen crusts. He's also experimenting with a tomato-less marinara made from red bell peppers.
It's no surprise that Lahey, the founder of Sullivan Street Bakery, would open a spot that feels more bread bar than pizza parlor. His breads appear in almost every dish, including soups (ribollita in winter, gazpacho in summer), salads and a rotating selection of crostini. "Pizza and bread are brothers, but have been separated over time," he says. "I'm trying to reunite them."
Even Lahey's pizza dough is based on his foolproof recipe for no-knead bread, which triggered a home-baking revolution when The New York Times published it in 2006. Here, he's adapted it for our readers, with one admonition: "Making the dough is easy," he says. "Handling it, tossing it—that's the tricky part."

No-Knead Pizza Dough
Adapted from Jim Lahey, Co.
Makes four 12-inch pizza crusts

3 cups all-purpose or bread flour, more for dusting
¼ teaspoon instant yeast (such as SAF brand)
1½ teaspoons salt
1½ cups water
1. In a large bowl, mix the flour with the yeast and salt. Add the water and stir until blended (the dough will be very sticky). Cover the bowl with plastic wrap and let rest for 12 to 24 hours in a warm spot, about 70°.
2. Place the dough on a lightly floured work surface and lightly sprinkle the top with flour. Fold the dough over on itself once or twice, cover loosely with plastic wrap and let rest for 15 minutes.
3. Divide the dough into 4 pieces and shape each piece into a ball. Generously sprinkle a clean cotton towel with flour and cover the dough balls with it. Let the dough rise for 2 hours.
4. Stretch or toss the dough into the desired shape, cover with toppings and bake on top of a very hot pizza stone.
Co., 230 Ninth Ave. (at 24th St.); 212-243-1105 or co-pane.com


Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: seemore on January 24, 2009, 01:47:41 PM
Deb, I am going to make a pizza dough for next weekend.  Which one of the links that you sent do you recommend for a beginner dough-maker?  THANKS!!
Mrs Seemore
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on January 24, 2009, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: seemore on January 24, 2009, 01:47:41 PM
Deb, I am going to make a pizza dough for next weekend.  Which one of the links that you sent do you recommend for a beginner dough-maker?  THANKS!!
Mrs Seemore

Mixer, Food Processor or Hands?

What kind of pizza do you like -- NY,  American,  Chicago, Sicilian ? 
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on January 24, 2009, 05:57:43 PM
Made some sicilian pizza for all of the wife's family today.  They raved about it and I've been officially named the head chef for my wife's family  ;D  Also made some mozza cheesesticks.  I'm not sure the family would ever let her divorce me now  ;D  See, there is always a method to my madness!
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: pensrock on January 24, 2009, 07:49:58 PM
QuoteI'm not sure the family would ever let her divorce me now. See, there is always a method to my madness!

Sly, like a fox eh?  ;D
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on January 25, 2009, 05:29:05 AM
You always gotta be one step ahead of them, Pens ;D  Never let em see you sweat  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: HCT on January 25, 2009, 05:51:48 AM
Too funny, Duck :D :D :D
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: seemore on January 25, 2009, 12:43:24 PM
Deb, I have a stand-up mixer, but it does not have a working bread hook.  I also have a food processor, and the hands the Good Lord gave me.  I also have a bread machine.  I tried to make pizza dough with that once, but for whatever reason - operator error, I am sure -  the flour did not mix completely with the water and the yeast......
I don't know if the food processor has to have a "blade" for dough making.  If so, I don't have one of those.
I think I would like to try a deep dish crust.  I have never been successful at making one of those, and I would sure like to give it another try.
I am going to make my own sauce for the pizza too.  Nothing fancy - just tomatoes and some seasonings and cook it down.
I will take pictures of the entire process - at least if it turns out!
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: deb415611 on January 25, 2009, 01:13:48 PM
Seemore,

Try either of these.  I bet you can do in it the food processor with the regular blade.  I would process just until everything comes together take out and hand knead just until things are a ball and smooth.  The second one has a very short mix time so it would be easy to do by hand if you wanted to go that way. 

http://www.pizzamaking.com/dkm_chicago.php    --   click on the pictures in this one to enlarge.

http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,5402.0.html

Sauce is a personal thing but when I do NY or Chicago I use 6-1 crushed or Pastene Ground tomatoes.  For chicago I drain a little and for NY from the can.  I add some oregano, garlic & crushed red pepper.  Simple sauce but good. 

I have done both and they are both great.   

Deb
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: seemore on January 25, 2009, 01:34:42 PM
Thanks, Deb!  I will let you know how it turns out!!
Title: Re: Pizza recipe links for Smoking Duck
Post by: Smoking Duck on January 25, 2009, 03:56:44 PM
Hey June and Scott,

I routinely use the food processor for making pizza dough (my mixer doesn't have a dough hook).  I simply use the chopping blade in my food processor and it comes out great every time.

Marc
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