Question About Vacuum Sealers.

Oldman · March 02, 2005, 02:10:43 AM

Kummok,
You are not going to believe this and I could kick myself now for it, but last year when I got that grill the guy had a chamber unit that looked almost as new as the grill for only $750.00!

<hr noshade size="1">I've tried the "freeze first" method and don't like it because the meats aren't soft enough to lay flat for storage. I use the rolled paper towel at the mouth of the bag and it works great for trapping liquids.<hr noshade size="1">

Nice idea on the paper towel. However, on the steaks for example the full Prime Rib, after ageing I will bone it out then freeze the whole piece of meat for a few hours then make my cuts.

<hr noshade size="1"> I believe I read where the new model Food Saver has a seal-on-demand feature, so as the liquid approaches, you can just seal it then. Even claimed you could do soups.

I'll have to look for a link.<hr noshade size="1">

Please do Chez Ole Boy~~!

Olds

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SMOKEHOUSE ROB · March 02, 2005, 03:02:46 AM

Instant Seal stops the vacuum process to prevent crushing delicate items. this is the key feature you are looking for.
go here. http://www.foodsaver.com/ or some really good deals go here, http://www.foodsaver.com/products.ad2?catalogID=1016

Oldman · March 02, 2005, 04:41:50 AM

Interesting,
I see that Food Saver sell there Professional III for more than their dealers....
FoodSaver Professional III Vacuum Sealer Kit from Ace Hardware Outlet--$229.00 & Free Shipping. <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">All Items are Brand New - We Do Not sell Used, Rebuilt or Refurbished Products....Normally Ships Same Day if Ordered Before Noon (Item in Stock) <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">This company does not offer bulk rolls of 12. However, what is interesting is they sell their two pack rolls 8" or 11" for $18.29 which is the cheaper per roll then the 12 roll pack.

If you are willing to take one larger roll of 8" X 22' or 11" X 18' the cost goes down to $12.99 per roll.

Given that on the FoodSaver site that 2 rolls of 11" X 9' cost $20.99 I think this is one heck of a savings of $8.00 a copy!

It looks like they also carry the full line: Accessories

Given that Ace is a large company I feel pretty good about ordering from them.

EDIT: I just E-mailed FoodSaver to make sure these larger rolls will fit. I also E-mailed Ace with the same question.
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Kummok · March 02, 2005, 07:32:04 AM

Yup...I can validate that even my 3 year old Costco model Foodsaver has the manual "seal it now" feature......

Olds:
Ouch!! I don't reckon he also had an old Harley still wrapped in the cosmoline (sp?) for $150 in his old barn too?!?![:0][;)][:D] That was a STEAL!! It's worth mentioning that, if you get that close to a chamber unit again, make certain that the pump is "wet" e.g. lubricated, instead of "dry". (Walk away Kirk, jes walk away![:D][;)])

35 years of extinguishing smoking stuff and now I'm wondering WHY!
Kummok @ Homer, AK USA

Oldman · March 02, 2005, 07:38:03 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">if you get that close to a chamber unit again, make certain that the pump is "wet" e.g. lubricated, instead of "dry". <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I'm not certain what you are saying here???

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nsxbill · March 02, 2005, 08:29:33 AM

Thanks for the source on Foodsaver supplies. Good old Ace Hardware...didn't think about them.

Bill

There is room on earth for all God's creatures....on my plate next to the mashed potatoes.

SMOKEHOUSE ROB · March 02, 2005, 01:43:54 PM

olds the 11" bags will fit. 11"x18' rolls fpr $9.99 click here http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=11839967

birdboy · March 02, 2005, 06:01:57 PM

I'll have to see if I can find some info on the unit that was at our state fair, it looked better than most of the units you find in stores, it bordered on being a commercial unit.

I'll be in the market for one as well shortly.

Kummok · March 02, 2005, 07:33:10 PM

Olds:
Dry is unlubricated and/or sealed vacuum pump, just like the Foodsaver style. Wet has lubrication sump. As you might guess, "wet" is more expensive. Check with seller or product specs before purchase. (I've got this mental picture of Kirk trying to wrap chains around his mouth, hopping about the room yelling a muffled, "WON'T GO THERE, WON'T GO THERE....")[:D][:D][;)][:D]

Birdboy:
Ain't no such thing as bordering on commercial....it IS or it AIN'T and, IMHO, if it doesn't have a vacuum chamber, it ain't! [:D][;)] I've seen the little suckers (pun intended!) that look like a Foodsaver on steriods, (see http://www.cabelas.com/products/Cpod0015243.jsp ), but the true commercial/industrial food sealers seal in a separate pressure environment/atmosphere than our breathing space (the chamber), they use different non-embossed/lower cost/high volume bags, they seal multiple bags at once, they can seal liquids (like soup!), they use bigger/better/faster/longer lasting pumps, and on, and on...See http://www.officezone.com/vacuum_sealers.htm for examples. I think the stores use "commercial" as a marketing ploy to get us testosteroned-up cooks/smokers to think we're getting the Binford 5000, when we're in fact just getting a bigger/better Foodsaver with a few more features and get the "commercial" label by using a "commercially rated" pump.....ain't NOTHING wrong with Foodsaver mind you, I use one myself for the last several years and love the little hard working sucker (there I go again[:D]). But when I finally have it together enough to get the ultimate food sealer, it'll be jes like the ones in the pictures at officezone.com[:p][:p][:D][:D][:D]

Also, check out http://www.texastastes.com/p1682.htm These guys carry all kinds of household and TRUE commercial sealers, including some sealers that use the cheaper, non-embossed bags in $169 range!![:p][:D][:D]

35 years of extinguishing smoking stuff and now I'm wondering WHY!
Kummok @ Homer, AK USA

Oldman · March 02, 2005, 07:49:21 PM

The reply from FoodSaver.
<hr noshade size="1">Dear Raye Minor,

Thank you for contacting Tilia Direct, Inc.

We appreciate your interest in the FoodSaver Professional III.

The Professional III is a full-sized FoodSaver unit and is capable of using all sizes of FoodSaver pre-cut Bags and all sizes of FoodSaver Rolls.

Our Customer Service department offers a full array of FoodSaver machines and accessories. Accessories include FoodSaver pre-cut bags, rolls of bag material, universal lids, jar sealers, bottle stoppers, and canisters. If you would like to purchase a FoodSaver machine or additional accessories, or if we can be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us. Our toll free number is 1-800-777-5452. Our hours are 8 am - 8 pm Monday through Friday, and 9 am - 6 pm Saturday, Eastern Time.

Sincerely,

Ann Savacool
Tilia Consumer Services

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Oldman · March 02, 2005, 07:51:09 PM

SMOKEHOUSE ROB
Thanks for the link...great price!

EDIT: Ace has a link if you find a better price. I linked them up...maybe they will do better~~LOL!
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Oldman · March 02, 2005, 11:47:04 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ace Hardware Outlet" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: 'FIND A LOWER PRICE' EMAIL

>i have lowered the price on our website.
>
> Angelo
> sales

Reply from Ace and my reply....
<hr noshade size="1">Thanks... but give us a reason to purchase it from you... I'm part of a food smoker's site that is interested in any offer that best what we already have. If you cannot best this offer we understand.

Here is the site: http://bradleysmoker.com/forum/default.asp I believe we have over a 1000 members and are ghosted several times that traffic.

If you want our business we are looking for a better price.... The member who brougth this up likes the other site...as they are timinly and the cost and free shipping is great! Do better or we will stay with them..... Your call.
Raye Minor.

 Let's see what their reply is.... If they take off a buck then let's do business with them.<hr noshade size="1">
> www.acehardwareoutlet.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 3:18 PM
> Subject: Spam: 'FIND A LOWER PRICE' EMAIL
>
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> SKU: 6069645
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> Description: FoodSaver VacLoc Roll 8X22 1 ROLL
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> Website Link:
> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=11839975
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> Price Found: $9.99
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> Email Address: [email protected]
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> Contact Telephone Number: 727.455.3030
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> Customer Name: Raye Minor

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Kummok · March 03, 2005, 03:17:29 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Oldman
 .... If they take off a buck then let's do business with them.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

If you're trying to squeeze them for $1, you'll probably want to look REAL close at the cost of bags if you've got your heart (and wallet) set on Talia's Foodsaver at around $229ish with Foodsaver bags at around $10 for one 8"X22" roll (which cuts up into 22 ea 12" bags). That's US $.45/bag (You might also want to consider their roll cutter or even cooler Foodsaver Center with cutter...$19-$25. I've used the scissor routine for a few years and it sucks...I now have the Foodsaver Center and my fingers are saved for fishing.)

http://www.texastastes.com/p1682.htm has a "Heavy Duty Vacuum Sealer for US$169.99.; Commercial bags in that same 8"X12 size run US $14.99 PER 100. That's US $.15/bag!!

They also show a really cool looking "Binford 1000" SS model for US $299.99 that uses special bags (just like Foodsaver does) that run US $29.99 for 100 8"X12" bags...that's US $.30/bag v.s Foodsaver's US $.45/bag

Ace definitely AIN'T my place for the money on this one..............[8D][:(][xx(]

35 years of extinguishing smoking stuff and now I'm wondering WHY!
Kummok @ Homer, AK USA

Chez Bubba · March 03, 2005, 03:52:19 AM

K-man,

Can these other bags be boiled & microwaved like the Food Saver's claim to be? We're planning on upgrading our suck machine but due to Smokehouse Rob's great idea regarding our Indy effort, they would need to be boilable. (Is that a word?)

Kirk

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Ya think next time I check into a hotel & they ask "Smoking or Non?" they would mind?

simmy · March 03, 2005, 03:55:35 AM

boilable sounds like a word to me Chez[:)]

Steve