Hot Stick Time

Started by NePaSmoKer, May 02, 2010, 06:24:38 AM

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NePaSmoKer

Casings you can get online at Cabelas, BPS, LEM, SausageMaker, Allied Kenco.

I buy them by the box 19mm here http://www.globecasing.com/stuffingchartsnackstick.htm

Gizmo

Quote from: DarqMan on May 03, 2010, 06:44:24 PM
Where do you get the casing? I'm consdering the sausage stuffer attachment for my Kitchen-aide.

Don't bother. You will get tired of trying to push the meat down when doing small tube snack sticks. The hopper is small and it is an arm workout to get the meat pushed through.  
Spend a hundred bucks or so and get a 5 lbs vertical stuffer. You will be glad you did.

NEPA,
I recently read somewhere that the store bought Nonfat Dry Milk was not the same as the binder quality from the sausage places.  I have used the grocery store bought and didn't notice any problems but then I haven't processed that much or many varieties.  I was wondering what your take (or others) is on the subject, but maybe a new thread or PM me so as to not hijack this thread.
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Quote from: Gizmo on May 03, 2010, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: DarqMan on May 03, 2010, 06:44:24 PM
Where do you get the casing? I'm consdering the sausage stuffer attachment for my Kitchen-aide.

Don't bother. You will get tired of trying to push the meat down when doing small tube snack sticks. The hopper is small and it is an arm workout to get the meat pushed through.  
Spend a hundred bucks or so and get a 5 lbs vertical stuffer. You will be glad you did.

Thanks for the tip.
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NePaSmoKer

Hey Giz


I have used the store bought with great results. The powder milk you buy from the sausage stores is exactly the same but only ground fine.

Darqman

Get a 5 pound stuffer it will save you loads of time over the KA.

Gizmo

Thanks NePa,
Now that you mention it, I seem to recall something about a finer ground as well.
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NePaSmoKer

Quote from: Gizmo on May 03, 2010, 08:57:10 PM
Thanks NePa,
Now that you mention it, I seem to recall something about a finer ground as well.

Anytime my friend  ;D

Habanero Smoker

Quote from: DarqMan on May 03, 2010, 06:44:24 PM
Where do you get the casing? I'm consdering the sausage stuffer attachment for my Kitchen-aide.

The grinder works well for batches of 10 pounds or less, but don't waste the extra $12.00 on the stuffing tubes. As pointed out, it does not work well.



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JF7FSU

Thanks for posting the recipe.  Is there a substitute for powdered dextrose?

Also have you ever made any snack sticks with CT in it?
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classicrockgriller

Quote from: DarqMan on May 03, 2010, 06:44:24 PM
Where do you get the casing? I'm consdering the sausage stuffer attachment for my Kitchen-aide.

If you want one for free. PM me

Habanero Smoker

Dextrose powder is made from corn. It is 70% as sweet as white sugar. A good substitute would be plain corn syrup; which I am finding harder to find. When you purchase corn syrup avoid the type that has fructose added to sweeten it. Karo is usually the one that has a pure corn syrup, but read the label because they also make corn syrup with fructose and some brands with vanilla. The substitution will be the same, if the recipe calls for 1/4 cup dextrose powder, use 1/4 cup corn syrup and reduce the liquid in the recipe by 1/4 cup.

Or for this recipe, you can use white sugar and reduce it by 30% (or multiply the amount by 70%). For example if the recipe calls for 1/4 cup (4 tablespoons), add 3 (2.8) tablespoons of white sugar.



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JF7FSU

Thanks Hab,

Think there would be a problem substituting g CT for water  in most recipes say for examples Pens sticks?
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squirtthecat


I'm curious about using CT in sticks myself..   I wonder what the vinegar would do to it?

Habanero Smoker

I've never used CT so I'm not sure how it would work. Since it is vinegar based, I would not use more then 1/4 cup for a trial run and reduce the water to 1/2 cup. I have used 1/4 red wine vinegar for 5 pounds in some certain types of chorizo to give it a tang, but in this recipe you already will be using ECA to create the tang. It just may be too much acidity.



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NePaSmoKer

When you add vinegar to the marinade for the jerky what your doing is making Kippered jerky. If using CT dont add any fermento or ECA.

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JF7FSU,

Sorry! I misunderstood your post. I though your were referring to adding the CT to the sausage recipe that NePas posted in this thread.



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