Something to watch for using Cellulose casings.

[Sailor]

A few weeks ago I used the cellulose casing and hung in 1/2 rounds and did not have any trouble.  Today I hung straight and I had several that have pushed the bottom knot off and had meat fall out.  I tied and then cut the casing pretty close to the knot.  Don't do that.  DUH!  I think to make sure that this never happens again is once you tie off the bottom then pull out a little extra and double it back over and tie it again.  I think this will keep the bottom knot from slipping.  Just wanted to let you guys that bought these casings that you need to be careful on the bottom knot.  I stuffed pretty tight so I guess the weight caused the knot to slip. 

[Keymaster]

I've always hoped that did not happen to me. I need to get some hog rings I guess :)

[Sailor]

I've always hoped that did not happen to me. I need to get some hog rings I guess :)

Yep....I think I will order some.  I need to order some high melt cheese and some hog casings so I recon that hog rings and pliers will fill the order out. 

[cobra6223]

I was just wondering if hog rings would be better than tying, I have tried hog rings on some thing once where they didn't hold, I guess the casing was to small, never had it happen when making SS. I remember mow it was some beef rounds with liver sasuage and those dang things fell off just as fast as I could put them on, as far as hog pliers don't spend the extra money for the spring loaded paair, a good friend on here (Curt) told me to get the nonspring loaded ones and just use a rubberband on them, works great and way cheaper. Thanks again Jm.
Tim
PS do we soak these first?

[pikeman_95]

I have been meaning to show how to tie a grease knot for a long time. This thread seems to be a good time to show the process. I have seen single tied casings that look like they could slip off and leak. This is the way the old time sausage makers tied the knot to keep grease from dripping in their smokers and the sausage slipping out of the casings.

First you pinch the casings together. You tie a simple knot on the casing.



Now fold the casing back over the string  and tie a square knot.




this is the side view.

This sausage casings is dry but the wet casings will  tie much tighter. If you have a hog ring pliers set and are worried about them still slipping off you could also fold the casing like this and clamp it with a hog ring.

[GusRobin]

thanks Kirby

[cobra6223]

ditto what Gus says Kirby

[SamuelG]

Thanks Kirby


SamuelG

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[Sailor]

Thanks for the education on the knot. The cellulose casings will need that type of knot if you want to be sure not to have a knot slip and dumping meat.  I will be using that type of knot next time around for sure.

[Sailor]

I was just wondering if hog rings would be better than tying, I have tried hog rings on some thing once where they didn't hold, I guess the casing was to small, never had it happen when making SS. I remember mow it was some beef rounds with liver sasuage and those dang things fell off just as fast as I could put them on, as far as hog pliers don't spend the extra money for the spring loaded paair, a good friend on here (Curt) told me to get the nonspring loaded ones and just use a rubberband on them, works great and way cheaper. Thanks again Jm.
Tim
PS do we soak these first?

Thanks for the heads up on the piliers.  As for the casings.....you don't need to soak them.  They stuff great just off the horn and pack solid.  They are almost like glass after you stuff them.

[OU812]

This rubber band trick will save you $20.00 on a set of spring loaded pliers.

[viper125]

I've also had a problem with slipped knots. Maybe that will work. One question any one have any split up the side. I have and they wasn't stuffed to tight. Just wondering if any one knew why?

[Sailor]

I've also had a problem with slipped knots. Maybe that will work. One question any one have any split up the side. I have and they wasn't stuffed to tight. Just wondering if any one knew why?

What type of casings were you using?

[OU812]

I've also had a problem with slipped knots. Maybe that will work. One question any one have any split up the side. I have and they wasn't stuffed to tight. Just wondering if any one knew why?

Were they collagen casings?

If so it sounds like the casing dried out, you need to store collagen casings in an air tight container and keep cool.

I store mine in a zip lock bag and in the veggie drawer in the fridge.

Edit; Fibrous casings will split if there not soaked in warm water long enough.

[viper125]

No they were cellulose casings and I had just received them. Just trying them out never used before.