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too salty breakfast sausage

Started by kfin, December 19, 2011, 03:54:55 PM

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kfin

I am trying another recipe that I have had for a while and have a question. The recipe for 25 lbs is 1 cup salt, 1/2 cup pepper, and 1 tsp of cloves. I have eaten this and helped make it a number of times. Always with their ingredients, tastes awesome.

I went to try and reproduce it and it is a total flop with the salt taste.

I broke it down to a 5 lb batch. Weighed all of the ingredients and divided by 5. Have checked and rechecked my weights and also my calculations. The salt weighed 10.9 oz/5 is 2.17 oz of salt for 5 lbs. Tried a 5 lb batch and you could not taste anything BUT salt. So I just made another batch and fried a test patty. This time I only added 1.36 oz of salt (2 tablespoons) and it is much better, but still salt is the only thing you can taste.

I am using "purified salt" and they used some sort of Mortons. Is there that big of a difference in salt? I have already cut from 3.2 tbsp to 2.0 tbsp and it still is pretty stout. I never remember tasting the salt in the sausage I made with them.

Any ideas?


watchdog56

Most sausage recipes I have used and seen use canning or pickling salt. Not sure if they are the same or not but am sure someone will be able to answer that question.

Keymaster

Sausage must contain salt for a variety of reasons. Never reduce the amount of salt in a sausage recipe without professional advice. How much salt is needed in sausage? About 2% in fresh type sausage or 2 grams per 100 grams of meat. However, 2% used in fresh sausage, is simply not high enough for safety in a fermented ?dry-cured? sausage requiring up to 3%. Dry-cured sausages without starter cultures (called ?traditional? sausage), require even more? anywhere from 3 to 3.5%. Four to five per cent salt is unpalatable.

I come up with 1.6 oz of salt for five pounds of meat at a 2% salt to meat ratio.

micman

One recipe I tried I used a course salt and it was too salty, the next time same recipe I used a kosher salt, same amount and not a very salt taste then. It may be the salt product not the amount that you are using. Hope this helps a little.

Mick

CoreyMac

I haven't got my log book in front of me but 1.5oz of salt(I just use regular table salt) for 5 lbs rings a bell. I use this for all recipes that require salt an have never had any diappointments. I have been told that purified sea salt can be saltier tasting because it doesn't disolve as readily into what its mixed into. I have never done any comparisons but this may be your issue. Maybe just use regular salt next time and see. Start a 1oz and do test fries until its where you want it.

Just my 2 cents

kfin

Quote from: Keymaster on December 19, 2011, 04:18:12 PM

I come up with 1.6 oz of salt for five pounds of meat at a 2% salt to meat ratio.

As did I, so the first time I went with my calculation of 1.36.

Is it the "purified salt" that I am using giving it the strong salt taste? I make NEPAS breakfast sausage which calls for 2 tbsp for 5 pounds and it does not have this salty taste. (But it does have sugar added to it) I use this same salt for it and haven't noticed any problem.

On my second batch I tried 2 tbsp and it is better but still not good.

NePaSmoKer

For 10 lbs of uncured breakfast sausage you should use 4 Tbs non iodized salt

Keymaster

Kfin, My first post sounded like I was some kind of Authoritorian of salt, I am not :-[ I simply copy and pasted the salt formulation from a sausage site and came up with the calculations on my own. I cant answer your question about the purified salt but if it is to salty and unpalatible then yes, keep cutting back on the salt. I did that with english bangers one time and still have 10 pounds in the freezer im waitin to use for crab bait ;D

kfin

Quote from: NePaSmoKer on December 19, 2011, 04:46:47 PM
For 10 lbs of uncured breakfast sausage you should use 4 Tbs non iodized salt

And when making your recipe, I did and it is awesome. But with the other recipe, 3 tbsp for 5 lb, it was unedible (with my salt, theirs was fine) and with 2 tbsp for 5 lbs it was still really salty.

My salt came from sausage maker and is labeled "purified salt" in a white bucket. Is this the stuff I should be using for making sausage?


kfin

Quote from: Keymaster on December 19, 2011, 04:47:29 PM
Kfin, My first post sounded like I was some kind of Authoritorian of salt, I am not :-[ I simply copy and pasted the salt formulation from a sausage site and came up with the calculations on my own. I cant answer your question about the purified salt but if it is to salty and unpalatible then yes, keep cutting back on the salt. I did that with english bangers one time and still have 10 pounds in the freezer im waitin to use for crab bait ;D

I didn't take it that way. I had read the exact same formula though and thought I was well within "range" of normal. What is blowing me away is that I have mixed it with the original recipe and it tastes fine. I guess I need to find out what kind of salt they are using.

This sausage could well become trapping bait!

NePaSmoKer

Quote from: kfin on December 19, 2011, 04:49:40 PM
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on December 19, 2011, 04:46:47 PM
For 10 lbs of uncured breakfast sausage you should use 4 Tbs non iodized salt

And when making your recipe, I did and it is awesome. But with the other recipe, 3 tbsp for 5 lb, it was unedible (with my salt, theirs was fine) and with 2 tbsp for 5 lbs it was still really salty.

My salt came from sausage maker and is labeled "purified salt" in a white bucket. Is this the stuff I should be using for making sausage?

Yes you can use it. I have used the same and had to cut it back by 1 Tbs for a 5 lbs batch. I only use the pure salt when doing smoked sausage.

kfin

So apparently this "purified" stuff is much saltier tasting.

NEPAS you said to cut it back by 1 tbsp. If using my purified, should I only use 1 tbsp per 5lb or are you talking about cutting back from 4 to 3 on a 10 lb batch?

So what type of salt do you prefer to use when making non smoked breakfast sausage?

"regular" Morton salt but non iodized......????

Thanks NEPAS and all others who have assisted here.


kfin

I have now been to the store and purchased a container of Morton non iodized salt.

Here is a picture of the "purified" I have been using and the new Morton salt that I just purchased.

If a recipe calls for 2 cups of salt for a 5 lb batch......are these interchangeable or would the Morton be 2 tbsp and the purified be 1 tbsp?

I am really not a total moron, :-\ but guess I don't understand which salt I should be using for if a recipe calls for "salt" and does not specify a particular kind. And throwing away sausage does not appeal to me at all.  :'(


NePaSmoKer

If your making the breakfast sausage, use the mortons.

watchdog56