Why no smoke ring?

veggieman · June 03, 2004, 10:37:59 PM

This may be a stupid question, but why is there no pink smoke ring on any of the meat I have done so far? I have smoked Turkey Breasts, Baby Back Ribs,Chicken, Pork Roast, and Rump Roast. I have yet to have a smoke ring like when I used my offset pit smoker. Everything has turned out great, but I was just wondering why no smoke ring appeared on the meat.

Fuzzybear · June 04, 2004, 12:01:50 AM

I don't know...I've not seen that pink/red ring either using the Bradley

"A mans got to know his limitations"
Glendora, CA - USA!

PAsmoker · June 07, 2004, 05:16:02 PM

I, too, wondered about this. I've seen varying explanations, but here's one I may go with. I saw this very discussion on another board. It seems that charcoal has some form of nitrate/nitrite (do not remember which)in it & when burned it helps to make the smoke ring. These people using the "other brand" of elec smoker can achieve a smoke ring by adding 1 charcoal brisquette to their wood plate while smoking. I haven't tried this yet in the Bradley.

MallardWacker · June 07, 2004, 06:13:17 PM

Just a thought here guys.... The idea of maybe putting a half a charcoal (cut in half with my bandsaw)on the begining of the smoke cycle. Any idea what adverse reactions this might have???? It might add something to the flavor.......

SmokeOn,

mski
Perryville, Arkansas
Wooo-Pig-Soooie

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whitetailfan · June 08, 2004, 04:57:59 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by MallardWacker
 Just a thought here guys.... The idea of maybe putting a half a charcoal (cut in half with my bandsaw)on the begining of the smoke cycle. Any idea what adverse reactions this might have???? It might add something to the flavor.......<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Mallard,
My thoughts would be:
a)You would need more than one at the beginning of the cycle to have any noticeable effect on flavour
b)Charcoal is built to produce heat (and gases) which is what the Bradley is designed to avoid
c)When we toss on charcoal to our propane grills, it is to replicate smoke which we are already doing with the Bradley, so it seems redundant.

I am sure that if you used enough it would certainly alter the flavour and that might be a nice flavour, but IMO it would not be worth the hassle and could take away from the awesome BBQ that we can do with our smokers. Like I said somewhere else I am excited about hot smoking a roast this year because I was so pleased with how a charcoal flavoured one come off the grill last year I know I can do better[:p]

whitetailfan
"Nice Rack"
Lethbridge, AB

Oldman · June 08, 2004, 05:55:56 AM

Well now you got me to thinking. In the pork that we use for Cuban sandwiches it is very slow roasted and it has that ring. Maybe it is the spices. Going to have to look into this more.

MallardWacker · June 08, 2004, 02:07:17 PM

WHite,

I think you correct here. I get to thinking, I love steaks over charcaol, that is the only piece of meat (a big honkin' Porter House, medium rare, man-thats meat) that I like better than anything done in my BS. Not that I wanted the grill flavor but chrcoal might have it's place once in a while. Another thought here, the juices that drip on the charcoal is probably makes the flavor also, something you cannot do inside our BS.

SmokeOn,

mski
Perryville, Arkansas
Wooo-Pig-Soooie

If a man says he knows anything at all, he knows nothing what he aught to know. But...

PAsmoker · June 08, 2004, 06:29:05 PM

Here's a link that may help (or just confuse even more).

http://forum.cookshackamerica.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=16;t=000152#000000

MallardWacker · June 08, 2004, 08:03:44 PM

PA,

Great read, I kind of think that settles it. Really, the idea of using tender-quick to creat a smoke ring is great idea.

SmokeOn,

mski
Perryville, Arkansas
Wooo-Pig-Soooie

If a man says he knows anything at all, he knows nothing what he aught to know. But...

Fuzzybear · June 08, 2004, 08:35:03 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">a big honkin' Porter House<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">[?][?]
Mallard: Are you confused? Don't you mean a goose? [?][:D]LOL!

"A mans got to know his limitations"
Glendora, CA - USA!

Oldman · June 09, 2004, 12:06:18 AM

See what happens when you only eat duck stuff....

Chez Bubba · June 09, 2004, 01:35:28 AM

Eventually, taste will surpass appearance.[;)]

http://www.chezbubba.com
Ya think next time I check into a hotel & they ask "Smoking or Non?" they would mind?

veggieman · June 09, 2004, 02:58:56 AM

Thanks for the replies. I agree Chez Bubba taste is what matters most.

MallardWacker · June 09, 2004, 02:07:54 PM

My wife says I confused quite often. Sometimes I switch from my other forum that I read and things get a bit jumbled. Here is a snippette from the other forum I subscribe to.

"The problems with the linear momentum formula is forgetting the basic premise that it should only be used when there are NO OUTSIDE FORCES. So linear momentum works great in outer space with point masses, no gravity and no friction. Fortunately when the masses (cars) are not point masses, on earth and with friction collide the OUTSIDE FORCES tend to balance each other during the impact phase and cancel each other out or not large enough to effect the formula."

Man I love this forum!!!!

SmokeOn,

mski
Perryville, Arkansas
Wooo-Pig-Soooie

If a man says he knows anything at all, he knows nothing what he aught to know. But...

whitetailfan · June 09, 2004, 03:57:02 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by MallardWacker
 My wife says I confused quite often. Sometimes I switch from my other forum that I read and things get a bit jumbled. Here is a snippette from the other forum I subscribe to.

"The problems with the linear momentum formula is forgetting the basic premise that it should only be used when there are NO OUTSIDE FORCES. So linear momentum works great in outer space with point masses, no gravity and no friction. Fortunately when the masses (cars) are not point masses, on earth and with friction collide the OUTSIDE FORCES tend to balance each other during the impact phase and cancel each other out or not large enough to effect the formula."
Man I love this forum!!!!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
"Linear momentum" - the bisquette advance
"Outside Forces" - wife nagging you to mow the lawn
"Outside forces tend to balance each other" - mow your lawn after you have stocked the smoker, and it can be left unattended for an hour or so
"Linear momentum works great in outer space with point masses, no gravity and no friction" - smoker works even if you've had too many wobbly pops

Gee Mallard, your other forum fits right in with ours, I see how you can easily swich between the two, they operate on the exact same principals....LOL[:D]

whitetailfan
"Nice Rack"
Lethbridge, AB