Just something I wanted to say

[Saber 4]

I wrote this a while back when there was some attitude and ugliness going on in a few threads, I decided to hold off on posting it until things had settled down so that I wasn't just commenting on any one thread but instead was just speaking to my friends here in general. Robert

Let me start by saying we have a great forum here, where else can you have a totally member handled 2 nation Christmas gift exchange like we experience here. Our members new and old can feel free to post their successes, failures, questions and ideas and know that they would get great feedback and support.

Until recently it hasn't mattered whether you had a stock Bradley or a hot rod modified Bradley, whether you foil or don't foil, or even whether you smoke with pucks or a pellet type accessory smoker. Then all of a sudden we have seen a rash of "new" members that seem to have both an axe to grind with Bradley (and the forum) and for a "newbie" an unusual amount of experience and detailed knowledge regarding common issues and solutions for various models of smokers. Bradley smokers aren't perfect; of course no major manufacturer is anymore but they do have great customer service and they do fund our playground.

I'm not saying that the forum is not the place to discuss problems and issues with our smokers, what I am asking is that we treat each other and Bradley with the respect we'd expect in our houses or businesses. I wouldn't walk into a Ford dealer and start ranting about how cheap and crappy their cars are and I wouldn't be happy if someone walked up to my booth and started berating me about something they think is wrong with my product at a horse show.

Thank you for bearing with me, I guess the main reason I felt compelled to write this post is to encourage the continued respectful and encouraging posting that the vast majority of our fellow members have always done, to ask those who have become discouraged with some of the things going on to come back and participate with us once again, and most importantly to respectfully ask that those who feel the need to use sarcasm and deceit to express their displeasure either be respectful in their discourse or show their displeasure in the best way possible, by not participating here if you are that upset with the product or forum. If you find yourself wondering what the heck I'm talking about then you probably aren't who I'm trying to reach out to.

[Tenpoint5]

I agree

[tailfeathers]

I wrote this a while back when there was some attitude and ugliness going on in a few threads, I decided to hold off on posting it until things had settled down so that I wasn't just commenting on any one thread but instead was just speaking to my friends here in general. Robert

Let me start by saying we have a great forum here, where else can you have a totally member handled 2 nation Christmas gift exchange like we experience here. Our members new and old can feel free to post their successes, failures, questions and ideas and know that they would get great feedback and support.

Until recently it hasn't mattered whether you had a stock Bradley or a hot rod modified Bradley, whether you foil or don't foil, or even whether you smoke with pucks or a pellet type accessory smoker. Then all of a sudden we have seen a rash of "new" members that seem to have both an axe to grind with Bradley (and the forum) and for a "newbie" an unusual amount of experience and detailed knowledge regarding common issues and solutions for various models of smokers. Bradley smokers aren't perfect; of course no major manufacturer is anymore but they do have great customer service and they do fund our playground.

I'm not saying that the forum is not the place to discuss problems and issues with our smokers, what I am asking is that we treat each other and Bradley with the respect we'd expect in our houses or businesses. I wouldn't walk into a Ford dealer and start ranting about how cheap and crappy their cars are and I wouldn't be happy if someone walked up to my booth and started berating me about something they think is wrong with my product at a horse show.

Thank you for bearing with me, I guess the main reason I felt compelled to write this post is to encourage the continued respectful and encouraging posting that the vast majority of our fellow members have always done, to ask those who have become discouraged with some of the things going on to come back and participate with us once again, and most importantly to respectfully ask that those who feel the need to use sarcasm and deceit to express their displeasure either be respectful in their discourse or show their displeasure in the best way possible, by not participating here if you are that upset with the product or forum. If you find yourself wondering what the heck I'm talking about then you probably aren't who I'm trying to reach out to.

Well said and I am in 100% agreement.


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[ragweed]

X3, Robert.  Very well said.  Thanks for posting my thoughts.

[NorthShoreMN]

Very good comment

[Smokin Sparky]

Very well put!  I have felt the same since all of this occurred.  Thank you and I too am in 100 % agreement.

Blake

[NePaSmoKer]

I wrote this a while back when there was some attitude and ugliness going on in a few threads, I decided to hold off on posting it until things had settled down so that I wasn't just commenting on any one thread but instead was just speaking to my friends here in general. Robert

Let me start by saying we have a great forum here, where else can you have a totally member handled 2 nation Christmas gift exchange like we experience here. Our members new and old can feel free to post their successes, failures, questions and ideas and know that they would get great feedback and support.

Until recently it hasn't mattered whether you had a stock Bradley or a hot rod modified Bradley, whether you foil or don't foil, or even whether you smoke with pucks or a pellet type accessory smoker. Then all of a sudden we have seen a rash of "new" members that seem to have both an axe to grind with Bradley (and the forum) and for a "newbie" an unusual amount of experience and detailed knowledge regarding common issues and solutions for various models of smokers. Bradley smokers aren't perfect; of course no major manufacturer is anymore but they do have great customer service and they do fund our playground.

I'm not saying that the forum is not the place to discuss problems and issues with our smokers, what I am asking is that we treat each other and Bradley with the respect we'd expect in our houses or businesses. I wouldn't walk into a Ford dealer and start ranting about how cheap and crappy their cars are and I wouldn't be happy if someone walked up to my booth and started berating me about something they think is wrong with my product at a horse show.

Thank you for bearing with me, I guess the main reason I felt compelled to write this post is to encourage the continued respectful and encouraging posting that the vast majority of our fellow members have always done, to ask those who have become discouraged with some of the things going on to come back and participate with us once again, and most importantly to respectfully ask that those who feel the need to use sarcasm and deceit to express their displeasure either be respectful in their discourse or show their displeasure in the best way possible, by not participating here if you are that upset with the product or forum. If you find yourself wondering what the heck I'm talking about then you probably aren't who I'm trying to reach out to.

Well said

We dont need the forum to be gone.

[WoodlawnSmoker]

Interesting.  I have only been a smoker and member here since Christmas, either I missed all the bad stuff or I haven't been reading the applicable sections.

I have found this forum to be a fantastic resource and good place to hang out.  The people here have been both friendly and helpful, nothing but praise for my entire experience.  Heck, I even was able to purchase a couple of beautiful, hand-turned pepper mills from a member.

One of the best forums of which I have been a member.

[iceman]

Nicely put.  :)

[RedJada]

Well said saber

[renoman]

Very well put. This is a great forum with many great knowledgeable members. There NEEDS to be a place for us to bring forward our concerns about our smokers. I post my "smokes" in the cooking/smoking section and my trials and tribulations with my smoker it the Digital Smoking section. Sometimes it gets very frustrating to try and figure these things out and most everyone on here is willing to lend a hand but sometimes when you get frustrated you need to vent. I have had most all my concerns dealt with with help from people on here even after I have "vented". All in all a great forum.

[TNRockyraccoon]

I think this place is great. I'm fairly new here and in such have not seen anything that seemed out of line.

My very first post was about a problem with my smoker. I got great advice from a member, I got incredible customer service from Bradley and within a few days I was good to go. IMHO Bradley went way above and beyond to fix my problem and I couldn't be happier.

Then I got to reading everything the Bradley veterans had to say, ranging from great recipes to known problematic issues with the Bradley. I think it's all great information and a lot of it can allow new owners to be proactive in preventable issues. I think for any forum to be worth a look it has to allow the good and the bad, even if a few people have really strong opinions. These bad reviews are still very small in comparison to all who love their smokers and who have never had a problem. Either way, I think all opinions should be welcome as long as these opinions are expressed with respect for one another.

[PapaC]

Thanks for posting that Saber. I'm not a veteran here by any means, but I have enjoyed immensely the spirit with which the members here have conveyed. I would hope that any one that chooses to take the time to register as a member would look at it with a "when in Rome" attitude. Sure, we can, and do have differences, but as for myself I hold to a personal commitment on this, and a few other forums I belong to that I will never post anything I wouldn't say to your face. Keeps things lined up pretty well I think.

While I'm at it, I'd like to thank Bradley for the forum, and the moderators for the time they put in. Your efforts are appreciated.

[TMB]

With you  100%

[manfromplaid]

have to agree  this site is the place to learn great and wonderful aspects of smoking meats and other goodies. we have all had some kind of negative experiance  in the retail world. the help here goes above and beyond. speak as you wish to be spoken to.
many thanks to those that look after the site and i hope to spend a lot of my time learning....
jeff