PID Workings

Started by Cajun, April 10, 2007, 09:09:07 AM

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Cajun

    Ok Gang,     I had a friend of min build me a PID and it works fine except (there always seems to be an except) I plug my PID into the wall socket and my BS into the other end of the with the PID in the middle. When it comes up to temp the PID shuts the whole unit until off the temp drops down and the Pid tells it to come on again.. My problem is the smoke generator turns off also so it interupts the smoke time. It does make the wood pucks last longer, but I didn't get the good smoke ring on my brisket.... I wonder if I could put the PID in line on the short cord between the smoke gererator and the cabnet?, and if so could I buy an extra short cord because I don't want to use my PID all the time so I could go back to the regular cord ???........Man I love this thing     Cajun
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Mr Walleye

Hi Cajun

I don't know if you have a OBS or DBS. I have a DBS with a PID. My PID is plugged into the wall and then into the tower heater. The Smoke Generator is also plugged into the wall outlet. I think guys with the OBS have the option of powering the PID separately or through the generator.

If you power it separately you want to make sure you built a fuse into the PID. If it's powered from the generator it will be protected by the fuse in the generator.

Mike

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Wildcat

 ??? Smoke Ring?  ???
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NePaSmoKer

Wow thats weird, my pid did that the 1st time i used it. Unplugged it plugged it back in and it worked? But now i have a guru/raptor, works every time ;D

nepas

3rensho

I have an OBS and PID add-on.  It is set up so the PID just switches the box heater off and on.  The generator is plugged directly into 220V and I use the on/off switch on the generator to control that.  Have never seen a DBS so don't know what is required for that setup.

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Cajun

To add to my post you don't want the PID running the etire unit (Smoke Generator and tower). You only want it running the tower. That way it will have no effect on the Smoke Generator.

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hillbillysmoker

I also like the guru/raptor that nepas mentioned.  More expensive but in my opinion worth it especially with the ramp feature to prevent over cooking.  Just my 2 cents.
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Mr Walleye

If you purchase the correct PID you can have the ramp/soak feature as well. I believe it is Outlander that set his up that way.

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MRH

Cajun,

The PID needs to be plugged in between the power and the heater on the cabinet, so it runs the heater in the cabinet.  If I remember right by your other post you have a original model.  I plug it (pid)  into the smoke generator on mine then plug the cord from the cabinet into the output of the pid, it is a original model too.

Mark

Tiny Tim

Some generator to tower cords have funny lookin' ends on both ends (male and female, but both funny lookin')...mine has this setup.  I'm either going to have to sacrifice an old computer cord and run off of 2 outlets, or buy a longer cord with the funny lookin' ends to run the PID between the smoke gen and tower.

Between that and not being able to decide between 2 different boxes to use, I have everything rounded up to build mine, but waiting on my decision(s).

Habanero Smoker

You don't want to interrupt the power to the generator. I have the Raptor/Guru, and when they were first made they did not come with installation directions. The first time I hooked up the Raptor to the generator, the power to the generator got disrupted during the 20 minute cycle and the pucks got jammed up pretty good. It also cuts off the power to the heating pad, and you bisquettes will not smoke efficiently, and you will not get a "smoke ring". :)

The different cord that Tiny Tim mentioned is what is generally called a computer power cord extender if you purchase it at a computer supply store. That type of cord has a "hood" surrounding the prongs on the male end of the cord, making it impossible to plug that cord into an outlet.



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Cajun

 OK Hab Where can I get one of the longer cord to go between the generator and the smoke box (" with the funny little ends")  I really don't want to cut my origional cord for (emergencies) ;D  Someone said a computer cord but I'M a little slow in that area ??? Who, where, or what do I ask for??? Please bare with me :o   Thanks   Cajun
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Tiny Tim

That cord is an IEC cord with C13 and C14 ends.  I found a guy on ebay with 7 of 'em to sell, $8.95 + $8.26 shipping.  Leaning that way myself, unless I can find something cheaper in the next couple of days.

Mr Walleye

Here is a link to a site that sells them. There is also a picture of the ends.

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=914&sku=03141

The simple thing to do is supply power directly from your wall outlet, into your PID, then into your tower heater. Plug the smoke generator into the wall outlet as well. By doing it this way you don't need the above cord.

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Habanero Smoker

Quote from: Cajun on April 10, 2007, 04:36:23 PM
OK Hab Where can I get one of the longer cord to go between the generator and the smoke box (" with the funny little ends")  I really don't want to cut my origional cord for (emergencies) ;D  Someone said a computer cord but I'M a little slow in that area ??? Who, where, or what do I ask for??? Please bare with me :o   Thanks   Cajun

Sorry for any confusion. I did not mean that is the cord you need, I was just clarifying what the cord TT was talking about. There was a lot of confusion when it was first mentioned that Bradley had changed the cords. So one day while at Gander Mt. I took a look at one and immediately recognized it.

If your Bradley came with the a power cord that is generally referred to as a computer power cord extender (extension), you will need to change it to a regular computer power cord if you wanted to plug the heating element directly into a standard outlet. If you already have the regular computer power cord, you are all set. If you don't, you can get the regular computer power cords from many stores such as Radio Shack; Staples, or off the net.



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