This is why I hate what Christmas has become

[West Coast Sausage Maker]

Walmart is famous for rollbacks

I just didnt think the could possibly rollback morals

[Smoking Duck]

TBS,

I'm pretty sure they rolled back the morals a long time ago.  I'm so up in the air about Walmart....they provide a lot of jobs (albeit low-paying jobs but jobs nonetheless), however, they've run out a lot of the mom and pop-type variety and hardware stores that is what I thought was the backbone of our country and little towns across America.  I'm 42 now and really miss what I remember of my youth.  This is just another example, IMO, that we'll never get back what we once had.

SD

[Stargazer]

TBS,

I'm pretty sure they rolled back the morals a long time ago.  I'm so up in the air about Walmart....they provide a lot of jobs (albeit low-paying jobs but jobs nonetheless), however, they've run out a lot of the mom and pop-type variety and hardware stores that is what I thought was the backbone of our country and little towns across America.  I'm 42 now and really miss what I remember of my youth.  This is just another example, IMO, that we'll never get back what we once had.

SD

I hear ya on that one SD. I remember the old butcher shops that were family owned. Going to a family owned farm to pick out a hog or turkey, even old family owned drug stores when I was little... the kind with the big wooden soda stand to get hand made milk shakes.

It's like... change everything that was good and wholesome, that made life worth living into a fast paced, death trap.

I live close by a chain of supermarkets that has been around a long time. Remke market. Their butchers are the only ones I ever get meat from. They specail order fresh meats for me, from local farms at that, know me by name and always give me sale price.

However, not long ago, I say about a month, a huge commercial chain has been sending massive flyers out trying to soil Remke's reputation instead of focusing on their own products 'Kroger/Winn Dixie'. Saddly, alot of brain dead zombies will buy into this and Remke's will suffer because of the slandering.

I have been at this commercial market and shocked to see their over priced meats all stamped with 'From Canada, Argentina or Mexico'. Nothing about United States.

We have to suffer because of the ignorance of the zombied out sheep people is what it boils down to. Just because they don't care, we have to live with the consequences because of they were told what they wanted by corporate advertising. Once that happens, and it slowly does eventually, it just goes down from there.

If Remeke's goes out of business because of this tactic, that mega corporate company will just focus their pin sites on the next smaller butcher shop, and go from there.

I just never could understand why is their voice, of the sub-standard ignorant allowed to be heard and ours is not?

I guess thats one more reason I'm so bent on getting a Bradley. It's like their company actually still cares about the consumer as an individual and for their happiness, and not just about making a buck.

[Smokin Soon]

I have mixed feelings about the Walmart incident. What turns buyers into animals? My wife works there and and has been through about 9 black fridays and has seen people camping in line the night before with no acts of violence. There were more things during good times for people to get exited about than now. The Ps3, Xbox Wii, were all door busters, They waited but nobody was hurt. I looked at the items this year for Walmart and did not really see anything worth busting a door down. There must be something we don't know about that tragic situation.

[Stargazer]

I have mixed feelings about the Walmart incident. What turns buyers into animals? My wife works there and and has been through about 9 black fridays and has seen people camping in line the night before with no acts of violence. There were more things during good times for people to get exited about than now. The Ps3, Xbox Wii, were all door busters, They waited but nobody was hurt. I looked at the items this year for Walmart and did not really see anything worth busting a door down. There must be something we don't know about that tragic situation.

Only thing I can come up with SS, is its the gluttonous mentality that a good majority of the population has allowed themselves to become.

Personally, if I stepped back and seen myself like this, I would be appalled and ever so embarrassed at myself. However, these type of people seem to know care about anything except themselves.

I don't even believe for one second they are trying to buy gifts for loved ones. Due to their behavior and actions, I think they do this so they can brag about what they gotten their loved ones to their friends instead.

[Smokin Soon]

If the current downturn of our economy is the reason for this tragic situation, we are in trouble.

[Stargazer]

If the current downturn of our economy is the reason for this tragic situation, we are in trouble.

I don't think its so much that for a few reasons. One is that those people apparently had the money to shop and were not destitute.

The other is, I seen in older movies that would parody these situations. I can't remember the name of the movie, but starred Jamie Lee Curtis who was trying to make the perfect Christmas holiday. Her and some other woman were fighting over 'of all things' a canned ham in a super market.

I believe this has been going on with the certain consumer mind for along time but it has been swept under the carpet. The 'if we don't see it, it's not really happening, but lets make light of it in a movie' or self denial of the growing narcissistic personalities in alot of people, namely the ones we are talking about from the Walmart incident. Being the awareness has been made to be overlooked for so long, this attitude just escalated instead of rationalize and go away.