if i had done this.......

Up In Smoke · March 06, 2009, 05:15:52 AM

Cherokee county Ga. school locked down because of some knuckleheads!
15 and 17 years old bringing a gun to school, and 2 more stolen guns at home,
some pretty serious equipment!
i never EVER thought of touching a firearm when my father was not around for fear
of calling down some serious thunder!
much less taking one to school.
i was born and raised in west Virginia, my father started me at age 5 learning how to hunt
and fish, i was around firearms all the time and completely understood the devastation they
could bring.
am i wrong in asking, where were the parents?
kudos to the father that called the police and alerted them to the stolen guns because it stopped
something that could have been horrific!
sorry, just wondering what the h@%$.

3rensho · March 06, 2009, 05:29:39 AM

I hear ya. I too was brought up around guns with gun safety and proper handling emphasized. Never in a million years would I have thought to bring one to school. If I had tried I shudder to think of the consequences when my dad found out.

Wildcat · March 06, 2009, 05:49:24 AM

Amen to that guys. Nothing wrong with guns when properly handled with respect and for the right reasons. I have found in recent years that very few parents rear their children correctly. Many of them think it is the school teachers job.

HCT · March 06, 2009, 08:56:52 AM

Ya know, the closest weapon anyone had when I was that age was a zip-gun. Times are scary.

Caneyscud · March 06, 2009, 09:01:24 AM

I guess, I grew up in a different age and world - small town in Texas. We all carried pocket knives - no one cut anybody in school - but there might have been an initial or heart or two carved into a desk or two! Many of us brought guns to school - in the racks on the back windows of our pickups. Part of our life - part of how we lived - they were simply tools used for hunting or protecting ourselves and our livestock from vermin and snakes - oh and plinking! They certainly did not end up inside the walls of the schools except possibly for a show and tell in class. Nobody was ever threatened - nobody was ever shot - nobody was hurt by the guns. Why?

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I have edited my first response. I have reeled myself in. I confess I get my mouth, or rather in this case my fingers in gear before reasoning. My deleted verbosity can be reduced to acknowledging the difference in schools from prior to the 40's-1963 (Abington Case) era, and what has been taught after 1963. Major difference - and it has much more to do than simply removing prayer, but that has certainly aggravated the situation.

I'll stop now!

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Kummok · March 06, 2009, 02:41:52 PM

Pretty much a given that times have changed. The real question is what we are individually doing about it?

Personally and locally, I'm refusing to participate in the media driven economic crisis, I've called the RNC and told them not to call me again for donations UNTIL they grow a backbone and real leadership, I'm cranking up the donations to NRA (Life member, thanX to my Dad!) because the ARE doing something, I'm teaching the young 'uns in my life the same things I was taught about gunfun/gunresponsibility/gunsafety, I'm picking up the phone/keyboard/checkbook and letting my good and bad politicians know what I think, I'm showing up / speaking up at local assembly/school board mtgs when necessary, and so on.

I just refuse to play along with the hyphenated society that is always trying to change things that don't need changing and restrict freedoms in the name of diversity. I prefer freedom and they can keep their "Change". From what I've read on this forum, I know I'm not alone in doing these things and it does pay off. We have one local school principal that wears camo and takes his kids hunting, another teacher in a different school that shows kids pictures of his moose kill, and more that are well adjusted, principled personalities in the face of the anti-everythings. While I recognize that guns and hunting/fishing aren't for everybody, I'm not sitting still and letting them dictate that it it isn't for ANYBODY! And dictate, they will....we just had a good third generation Alaskan homesteader family invaded by a group that exists primarily to raise money and bases their existence upon lies designed to evoke emotion. Some so-called humane society group strong-armed their way onto these folk's property (while the husband was away...one of their tried and true tactics), and along with a local state trooper for effect, without a warrant, stole the horse that this family had actually rescued a couple months earlier (and were trying to get back it back into healthy condition)!?!?! The "rescuers" actually took the horse from the hay and special feedgrain that the horse was feeding on when they arrived....then they go back and brag about how they rescue starving animals but need more money to do more of it....sheer lunacy! But I digress...... :-\

Caneyscud, you're a good person for putting reason ahead of emotion, (as opposed to those on the other side of this argument ::) ), but I'm doing my best to crank up both reason AND emotion in my own effort to help hang on to the many good things about our society...Responsible ownership and use of weapons is one of those things that I can really get my arms around and I appreciate this post SR. ;)

car54 · March 06, 2009, 05:05:31 PM

Thank you Kummok for your post. You know the charges that my grandson may have been charged with. When I was younger then him I exposed my self to a girl and she did the same to me. Nothing more then childhood curiosity. I am not ashamed of it . Today you would go to prison for that. Things are just too politically correct. When my grandson was about 7 years old he was kicked out of day care because he picked up a stick and pretended that it was a gun. Things are out of perspective.

Brad

Roadking · March 06, 2009, 05:30:20 PM

This might be off subject but it might be something you might want to watch.

GO TO THIS SITE AND WATCH THE MOVIE OF THE MARINE..
http://patdollard.com/2009/03/patriot-or-traitor/

HCT · March 07, 2009, 04:22:12 AM

Noah didn't wait for the rains to build the Ark.
There is a huge storm heading this way, is your ark built?

Kummock, nicely worded. Family first, friends and community next.

Oldman · March 07, 2009, 10:54:20 AM

Of all of us that posted here who is under 45 years of age... not me... I'm almost 60.

HCT · March 07, 2009, 11:08:52 AM

Great post RoadKing. This morning when I clicked on the link I got Vanilla Ice, go figure.
So I'll step up to the plate and reply, I support these troops 100%.

Roadking · March 07, 2009, 11:30:26 AM

It's to bad but true. My father (90 yrs. old) still alive says we're getting closer to it.

I still say everyone out of high school should put 4 yrs. active duty into the military. Then they can go to college when done.

Kummok · March 07, 2009, 02:01:11 PM

Quote from: HCT on March 07, 2009, 04:22:12 AM
Noah didn't wait for the rains to build the Ark.
There is a huge storm heading this way, is your ark built? ....

Ouch HCT! Ya got me where I live.... still don't have a replacement boat yet!! ;) ;) ;D Fortunately, I have very good friends that take me out fishing in theirs....

Quote from: HCT on March 07, 2009, 04:22:12 AM
.....Kummock, nicely worded. Family first, friends and community next.

Put a little differently for me, its Father, faith, family, friends, in that order.... hard to keep balanced sometimes, but that's the "strived for" mission ;)

Car 54
I know what you mean...back in my Fire Captain days, one of my FC friends (on his night off) had finished off "more than one" beer and had the driver (his wife!) pull over on a side street at 0:dark 30 and he "got rid of" a few of those beers. Unfortunately for him, someone saw him, turned him in, and he ended up on the official law enforcement's Paul E. Pervert list for "indecent exposure" for several years. The REALLY crazy part is that this was in a N. California mining/cowtown. I could understand giving him a ticket for "waste disposal w/o a permit" but sheeeeesh, "indecent exposure"??? ::)

Wildcat · March 07, 2009, 06:47:36 PM

Quote from: Oldman on March 07, 2009, 10:54:20 AM
Of all of us that posted here who is under 45 years of age... not me... I'm almost 60.

I'm about a step and a half behind you Olds. Big 6 0 just around the bend.

Caneyscud · March 09, 2009, 12:12:18 PM

I'm quickly approaching 53!

Kummok - next time I'm on the Peninsula (hopefully this year) we have to bend an elbow or two in the Salty Dog - or somewhere. I'm dying to go after some of those 'bows as big as my leg! or even a steelhead or two! Or I'd just settle for a few salmon and a halibut or two and some razor clams!

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