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Title: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 15, 2010, 09:43:14 PM
Hi everyone, did the manual for the new pid dual probes  WSD-1200CPH been post online somewhere? I did not received my pid yet and i have a couple of questions so instead of asking if the manual could be found online i would like someone giving me the link pls. THX
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 15, 2010, 09:45:33 PM
I got it and if you pm your e-mail I'll send it
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Post by: classicrockgriller on January 15, 2010, 09:59:00 PM
sent it.

Let me know if you got it.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 15, 2010, 10:06:52 PM
THX A MILLION CRG! it answered all my questions. :D :D
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Post by: classicrockgriller on January 15, 2010, 10:12:25 PM
Well it looked like spanish to me. :D
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Post by: Hoss on January 15, 2010, 10:23:07 PM
Well it looked like spanish to me. :D

You gotta flip it over!  Its enlish on the other side :P
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Post by: Quarlow on January 15, 2010, 10:29:11 PM
Me thinks the monkey is cross eyed. ;D
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Post by: classicrockgriller on January 15, 2010, 10:32:06 PM
Well at least I'm not standin by some trees and have a nazi flag wav'in
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 15, 2010, 10:57:03 PM
Anyway you mostly dont need to play with the settings exepted for the temp and foof internal. The rest is supposed to be already adjusted for the bradley smoker. Maybe for auto-tune once a while but not neccerarly.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 15, 2010, 10:59:59 PM
What if you have dual heaters?
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Post by: Toker on January 15, 2010, 11:01:48 PM
What is dual heater? A 2nd elements?
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 15, 2010, 11:04:01 PM
yep, do the values change?
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 15, 2010, 11:05:07 PM
Just did it today so that Gabi and the new Auber can start off right!
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Quarlow on January 15, 2010, 11:09:45 PM
that should help ya down there in the cold zone. ;D
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Post by: Toker on January 15, 2010, 11:10:16 PM
yes just do an auto tune do this
Press and hold SET key for 4 seconds until LED display “LCK” on the left window, then release the SET key. The display on the right window will show “0”. To get into parameters setting mode, you need to key in the pass code. Use “+” and “-“keys to adjust the display to 166 (which is the pass code) and press SET
You need to change the 0 for 1 Auto-tune function. Set AT to 1 then exit the menu. The display will start to flash alternately between AT and the current temperature, which indicates auto-tuning is in progress. When the display stops flashing, the auto-tuning is finished

Don't worry it's gonna take up to 30 minutes to process.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 15, 2010, 11:17:22 PM
I think I can do that.

maybe
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 15, 2010, 11:19:24 PM
But you need to turn GABI on and plug your auber pid in it 1st just set the GABI temp at the desired temp for at least  for 1hour to make sure it has enough time to make it, it could take about 30 to 45 min to do sowith something inside like foiled brick to make sure its working proportly. to simulate a load.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 15, 2010, 11:23:30 PM
I live in Texas and it gonna be 70 tomorrow.
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Post by: Toker on January 15, 2010, 11:25:15 PM
does not matter you can do it tomorow if you rather.
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Post by: Toker on January 15, 2010, 11:28:25 PM
oops i forgot, some members reported that is better to start auto-tune within 10 degres of the set point.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 15, 2010, 11:36:03 PM
toker, I'll probably run Gabi thru a non Auber cycle with her dual heat and just watch her.

By that time, you will probably have yours and you can help the not so fortunate.

I am not going to get in a hurry. I don't think.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 15, 2010, 11:41:01 PM
As you wish man but if you need help you know that im there if im not others will. ;)
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 15, 2010, 11:48:42 PM
But remember it is VERY UNADVISED RUNNING 2 ELEMENTS WITHOUT A PID WATCH OUT FIRE HASARD!!!!! its like having 2 motors in a car double speed check your slider bar VERY OFTEN PLEASE BE CAREFULL ITS DANGEROUS. :o
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 15, 2010, 11:54:18 PM
I just hope when you installed your 2nd elements you installed it too with the thermal fuse for more safety. http://www.yardandpool.com/Bradley-Smoker-Replacement-Temperature-Sensor-p/tempsensor.htm
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 15, 2010, 11:56:15 PM
toker, take a deep breathe.
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Post by: Toker on January 15, 2010, 11:58:27 PM
I will  :D i just passing you the advise that others passed me im curently waiting the pieces to do it too.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 15, 2010, 11:59:49 PM
All my wiring is hooked up to a fuse link.

I have no plans but to use it for pre-heat and recovery.

I am old. I am low and slow. I got nowhere to go. :D
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 16, 2010, 12:03:17 AM
Sorry through internet there is no way to see who we are talking with sorry did not want to take you for a wannabe didnt want to offence you.  :P
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 16, 2010, 12:10:00 AM
no offense toker

Appreciate your concern.

I have a DBS and it will be a step process.

Don't ever want to hurt Gabi!

I will monitor it with maverick ET-73

oven therm

aux thermo

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Post by: Quarlow on January 16, 2010, 12:11:26 AM
Your ok toker Sonny is one of the coolest guys you'll meet on here. He's the salt, man.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 16, 2010, 12:14:43 AM
You know CRG once you figure out how to autotune you could use your maverick to make your pid remote cordless you sure knew but i just figured it out.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 16, 2010, 12:17:58 AM
the thing I see about the new Auber is that it will make me lazier than what I already am.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 16, 2010, 12:20:00 AM
But for me it will be perfect im in wheelchair ;D
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 16, 2010, 12:31:22 AM
You know CRG once you figure out how to autotune you could use your maverick to make your pid remote cordless you sure knew but i just figured it out.

say that one more time.

But for me it will be perfect im in wheelchair ;D

well you sound kewl to me!
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Quarlow on January 16, 2010, 12:33:40 AM
"ahh, group hug, big group hug"
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 16, 2010, 12:37:39 AM
toker watch out for Q. He wants to hug. :D
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 16, 2010, 12:40:56 AM
You know CRG once you figure out how to autotune you could use your maverick to make your pid remote cordless you sure knew but i just figured it out.

So with my maverick ET-73 and my Auber I can make my Auber remote thru my Mvaerick?
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Quarlow on January 16, 2010, 12:42:37 AM
You know CRG once you figure out how to autotune you could use your maverick to make your pid remote cordless you sure knew but i just figured it out.

So with my maverick ET-73 and my Auber I can make my Auber remote thru my Mvaerick?
this sounds interesting. I would like to hear this process.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 16, 2010, 12:43:36 AM
Yes you could use your Maverick to remote your pid if you want to; you just place your tower probe next to the auber tower one and you place your meat probe next to your auber meat probe this way you could monitor it from inside your hose. This way it's more lazy way to use your Maverick lol ;D

BTW i don't know if I'm so cool I'm just trying to have a passion wheelchair or not
with the bradley its not so difficult i think i became addicted to it that's it. :D
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 16, 2010, 12:49:37 AM
In other words the auber act like a Maverick but it controll your GABI and not only monitor it and the Maverick is your remote.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 16, 2010, 12:50:57 AM
toker, I'm not a rocket scientist, but what would be remoting is the temps from the maverick probes, right?
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 16, 2010, 01:08:52 AM
yes the maverick would remote and the auber would controll ok but most members who use both of them say its about 1-2 degrees difference only for the meat and the smoker. so lets say your meat read 120 with auber and 119 with maverick, just take it under consideration if you place them next to each others you know each time it increase 1 deg it should do the same with the other so when your auber beep to tell you that the meat is ready your maverick should be 1 deg about ready. Thats what others memebers said at least ex your desired IT is 195 for brisket when its 195 with the auber its 194 with the maverick if you put the really close to each others. Same thing with your gabi temp.
Did you understand sorry im from quebec Canada english is my 2ng language.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 16, 2010, 01:15:27 AM
I might have to re-read this tomorrow.

I think my brain tonite is Canadian Crown Royal

Are you French?
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Post by: classicrockgriller on January 16, 2010, 01:20:21 AM
So you are saying insert the maverick meat probe and the Auber meat probe side by side and I would know by remote what my Auber is thinking.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 16, 2010, 01:24:36 AM
yes im french canadian. what i said is there is only 1-2 deg difference from each other all the way from bigining until the end of the cooking  process if you place them really close from each other it will stay this way same for meat and for tower so the maverick should remote about the same temp than the auber at 1-2 deg diffrence. same for meat and for tower. at 1-2 deg difference its a pretty good remote
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Post by: Toker on January 16, 2010, 01:25:58 AM
At maybe 1-2 degres difference et voila you understood my pretty bad english. :P
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 16, 2010, 01:28:46 AM
Well that makes good sense and is worth a try. Have you done this?

This would be a great experiment.
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Post by: classicrockgriller on January 16, 2010, 01:31:20 AM
toker, you have great english,

I have a hard head. :D
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 16, 2010, 01:31:59 AM
did not tried it i did not received my pid yet but others here in the forum did and they said that its working if you place them close to each others. But i sure will try.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 16, 2010, 01:34:26 AM
But its better than paying about 700$ for a procom 4 ( pid with remote)
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 16, 2010, 01:37:50 AM
I will call Auber tomorrow and ask the how close a metal object can be place to their probes and still get an true reading and I'll e-mail you what he told me.

If you like I will send it in french.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 16, 2010, 01:39:26 AM
Sure go ahead  :D but did you installed a fan in the tower? cause in the back, you know its warmer than in the front. And habanero once told me that a piece could have different degres depending where you put the probe in the meat thats why i suggested you close from each others.
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Post by: classicrockgriller on January 16, 2010, 01:41:30 AM
ok, thanks
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Post by: Toker on January 16, 2010, 01:44:05 AM
just reread reply 51 pls i made modifications.
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Post by: Toker on January 16, 2010, 05:06:51 PM
As far as how close from each others should they be the cloest as possible as long as they dont touch each other i've been told.
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: GusRobin on January 17, 2010, 01:11:09 PM
I have the "old" auber and I have run it with the probe wall mounted under the second rack (OBS) and the maverick probe about 1/2 inch from it. I had about a max 1-2 degree difference (depending on when I checked) but otherwise every thing worked fine.
I am waiting for one of the innovators on this forum to figure a way to hook the PID to the maverick  :)     --maybe using the extra relays on the $195 version?
Title: Re: pid dual probes manual
Post by: Toker on January 17, 2010, 01:27:05 PM
No you only use your Maverick to tell you the Auber temp since its only 1 degree difference between the Auber and the Maverick its pretty much the same temp eventhough the maverick remote is temp you can assume it the same at 1 degree difference you do not plug the maverick into the Auber.