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Smoking Techniques => Sausage Making => Topic started by: Caribou on May 30, 2009, 03:30:24 PM

Title: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Caribou on May 30, 2009, 03:30:24 PM
Hi Everyone!
I just stuffed 4 pounds of sausage using sheep casings for the first time.
The ones I used are made by Eastman Outdoors.
I noticed that they smelled quite a bit stronger than the hog casings that I buy do.
Is that normal?
They didn't smell rotten and they were salted and sealed like they should be.
I soaked and washed them thoroughly, too.  But I could still slightly smell them if I put them close to my nose.
Thanks for any insight,
Carolyn
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: NePaSmoKer on May 30, 2009, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: Caribou on May 30, 2009, 03:30:24 PM
Hi Everyone!
I just stuffed 4 pounds of sausage using sheep casings for the first time.
The ones I used are made by Eastman Outdoors.
I noticed that they smelled quite a bit stronger than the hog casings that I buy do.
Is that normal?
They didn't smell rotten and they were salted and sealed like they should be.
I soaked and washed them thoroughly, too.  But I could still slightly smell them if I put them close to my nose.
Thanks for any insight,
Carolyn

Carolyn

If they were rotten you would know. Sheep is just a tad different in the smell. As long as they were salt packed and you soaked them good your ok.

But

If your finished sausage smells bad.....................chuck it.

nepas
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Gizmo on May 30, 2009, 05:31:17 PM
Would a quick dip in vinegar water help out?  It does great for taking the gamey flavour out of other strong meats.
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Tenpoint5 on May 30, 2009, 08:25:05 PM
Quote from: Caribou on May 30, 2009, 03:30:24 PM
But I could still slightly smell them if I put them close to my nose.
Carolyn

Then don't hold them close to your nose!!!!! Sorry Carolyn I couldn't resist. Haven't had the pleasure of using sheep casings yet. I use collagen for the smaller sizes.
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Smokin Soon on May 30, 2009, 10:34:38 PM
I do prefer the sheep casings for breakfast sausages that are stuffed and not smoked. No cure added. Gives you the freedom of tuning your tastes for sage, maple, garlic or whatever taste you like. I am in the mode now where I will only do a 3 pound test batch. Nothing goes to waste as I do quite a few bean dishes that welcome my leftover smoked stuff. Lots of fun!
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Habanero Smoker on May 31, 2009, 02:13:20 AM
Though for me they are a pain to use, I use sheep casing for hot dogs, breakfast sausage etc (I don't like collagen casings, unless I intend to remove the casings after cooking).

Sheep casings do seem to have a stronger odor then hog casings. That odor seems to dissipate after soaking, stuffing and cooking. As Gizmo has pointed out, use some vinegar in the water when you soak them. The vinegar will also make the casings softer, and more translucent.
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Caribou on May 31, 2009, 10:49:30 AM
Thanks for all the replies,
We had some of the sausage and it tasted fine...thank God!
Yeah, they weren't rotten just strong smelling.
I guess it's just part of trying something new.
But I'll try the vinegar thing next time around...good idea!
Other than that, I liked working with them and they were the perfect size for making breakfast sausage.
10.5, I'll keep my nose farther next time, too.  :D
Carolyn
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Up In Smoke on May 31, 2009, 11:46:16 AM
I still have not done any sausage,
other than size what would the difference be between the hog casings and the sheep casings?
should one be used over the other?
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Habanero Smoker on May 31, 2009, 02:21:49 PM
Quote from: Up In Smoke on May 31, 2009, 11:46:16 AM
I still have not done any sausage,
other than size what would the difference be between the hog casings and the sheep casings?
should one be used over the other?


One should be used over the other for the diameter of the sausage. Sheep casings are smaller in diameter and use for sausage such as hot dogs, pepperoni, small link breakfast sausage. Sheep casings run from around 20mm up to about 26 mm; while hog casings start around 29mm up to around 60mm, but 32mm to 35 mm is the most common size hog casing for sausage.

I like sheep casings, but they are not long in length; at least the batches I have gotten. They are usually 6 feet to 8 feet in length, and for 5 pounds of sausage you have to four to six of them. They are difficult to load on to my smallest sausage tube. Another thing is that I tend to tear sheep chasing on occasion, but never have that problem with hog casing.
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Up In Smoke on May 31, 2009, 04:29:43 PM
Habs,
so as a beginner the hog casings would be the way to go as they are more forgiving?
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Caribou on May 31, 2009, 04:48:11 PM
Hello!
the sheep casings that I used were about the size of a regular hot dog in diameter.
I was using them for breakfast sausage and I liked the size.
A little more generous that the regular breakfast links you see at the store.
I used the 20mm tube on my 5lb stuffer and had no problems getting them on the tubes which I lube with a little Crisco before I put a casing on it.
They wanted to tear in just a couple spots so I would agree they are a little less strong than hog casings.
But the collagen casings I tried once that were specifically made for fresh sausage were way more delicate than the sheep casings were for me.

Up in smoke,
You will love making sausages, it's a lot of fun!
Hope you give it a try sometime,
Carolyn
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: NePaSmoKer on May 31, 2009, 07:50:12 PM
Quote from: Up In Smoke on May 31, 2009, 04:29:43 PM
Habs,
so as a beginner the hog casings would be the way to go as they are more forgiving?

yes


nepas
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Habanero Smoker on June 01, 2009, 03:32:33 AM
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on May 31, 2009, 07:50:12 PM
Quote from: Up In Smoke on May 31, 2009, 04:29:43 PM
Habs,
so as a beginner the hog casings would be the way to go as they are more forgiving?

yes


nepas

That's a double yes! :)
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Up In Smoke on June 01, 2009, 05:03:57 PM
Carolyn,
sorry if i interrupted. i will try sausages soon.
i plan on ordering some stuff in the next week or two so i can get started.
my problem is that i need food safe lubricant, casings, spices, etc,etc,etc.
it seems never ending.
do i really need to buy a special lubricant for the gears on the stuffer and mixer
or can i use something available at the store? maybe save a little $$$.??
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Caribou on June 01, 2009, 06:07:02 PM
Hi Upinsmoke!
Here's what Nepas recommended for a food safe lube:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat602009-cat20099&id=0022024516093a&navCount=1&podId=0022024&parentId=cat20099&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=2UG&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat601233&hasJS=true

But probably where ever you order your stuffer will most likely carry a food grade lube, too.

I bought an LEM 5# stuffer, which I am very happy with so far and they have a starter kit available, too.  Though you probably would rather buy things a la carte.
http://www.lemproducts.com/product/2120/90
Carolyn

Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Up In Smoke on June 01, 2009, 06:50:20 PM
thanks carolyn,
added to the shopping list!
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: brianl on July 20, 2009, 03:34:56 PM
Hi all

Didn't want to start a new thread for this, but I just bought some sheep casings, and I have a question.

They do not appear to be salted.  They are slipped over a strip of plastic (which kind of looks like the top of a Zip-Loc bag).  I also bought some hog casings at the same time and they are definitely salted.

Should I be salting them?  No immediate plans for using them, and apparently I've got about 200 yards worth (seems like a lot, but that's what they told me - maybe they meant feet?).

Thanks,

Brian
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Caribou on July 20, 2009, 05:24:44 PM
Hi Brian,
I have sheep casings from Eastman Outdoors.
They are slipped over the plastic just as you mention but they are definitely cover generously in salt,
You may want to call your supplier and ask what to do but I'm sure someone on the forum will know what you should do also.
Carolyn
Title: Re: First Time Using Sheep Casings
Post by: Habanero Smoker on July 21, 2009, 02:35:41 AM
Quote from: brianl on July 20, 2009, 03:34:56 PM
Hi all

Didn't want to start a new thread for this, but I just bought some sheep casings, and I have a question.

They do not appear to be salted.  They are slipped over a strip of plastic (which kind of looks like the top of a Zip-Loc bag).  I also bought some hog casings at the same time and they are definitely salted.

Should I be salting them?  No immediate plans for using them, and apparently I've got about 200 yards worth (seems like a lot, but that's what they told me - maybe they meant feet?).

Thanks,

Brian

Without seeing the package it is hard to tell. Both hog and sheep casing can be purchased unsalted. Unsalted casings are in a small amount of liquid, and are vacuum sealed, usually in a re-sealable bag. The benefit of purchasing them unsalted is that they don't have to be soaked, and are more tender. The down side is that they have a limited self life. You can extend the self life by salting any left over casings.