I just bought a pork butt and was all jazzed up to smoke it this weekend. Then I started reading on here about pork butts, when the mention of bones came up. I said wait a minute, there is no bones in my butt, yuk yuk. So I go take a look at my butt,(no mirror required) and it turns out I need glasses, as I ended up with a leg of pork roast butt portion. So now I thinking it's all out the window and all I can do is ask you guys what the heck did I get myself into and can I still end up with pulled pork bunwich's. Or am I off on some weird adventure that nobody has a clue as to what I can do with 6 1/2lbs of pork I'm going to have to hire some french chef to cook it for me.
Hi there Quarlow,
I cant help you there but soon some one with more experience will be reading your post soon and will offer help. Don't dispare, I am sure some one will come up with a great way to smoke that.
HR
When you see "leg" mentioned when buying a piece of meat it is from the hind quarter of the animal. What you purchased is really a boneless fresh ham cut for the upper part of the leg. That cut does not make for good pulled pork. You would be better off smoking it as a fresh ham roast, and slicing it. For seasoning just season it with your favorite pork seasoning, such as the same seasoning you would put on a loin. For ham cuts I generally bring them up to 152°F, loins I only go to 140°F - 145°F.
By the way, if you see a reference to arm or shoulder that cut is from the front leg of the animal.
Habs I would like to thank you for the explanation.
I just purchased what seems to be a whole side of pork including the from the upper part of the front leg (actually 2 of those) and it seems that I am over my head on this one. I placed in the freezer here in Syria to be shipped to me back in Jordan next week. It is very hard to find pork in Jordan especially now that swine flu got every one scared.
I was wondering if, when I receive them next week, I could take some photos and post them and get some instructions of how to cut those things apart and know which section is what.
HR
Yes.
And I have some "meat maps" around here somewhere.
Hi HR,
Did a short search and found this page:
http://baygourmet.tripod.com/pig.html#5 (http://baygourmet.tripod.com/pig.html#5)
Scroll past the part about picking out and slaughter your hog :D
And look at the part about primal cuts and making smaller cuts.
Google "butchering a hog", and you'll see a lot on the killing part but there are some sites that have the cutting up part.
I buy half a hog from a friend every year but have it processed so it comes to me all cut up and wrapped.
But I think now after being on this forum I have learned that probably next go around to have it cut into large pieces that are funner to smoke.
Carolyn
Quarlow
That would make some killer Ham
Quote from: Caribou on September 10, 2009, 05:29:23 AM
Hi HR,
Did a short search and found this page:
http://baygourmet.tripod.com/pig.html#5 (http://baygourmet.tripod.com/pig.html#5)
Scroll past the part about picking out and slaughter your hog :D
And look at the part about primal cuts and making smaller cuts.
Google "butchering a hog", and you'll see a lot on the killing part but there are some sites that have the cutting up part.
I buy half a hog from a friend every year but have it processed so it comes to me all cut up and wrapped.
But I think now after being on this forum I have learned that probably next go around to have it cut into large pieces that are funner to smoke.
Carolyn
Thanks Carolyn,
I visited the link you sent me and have saved the site to do more reading later. It seems I have the whole side and according to the chart on the site you sent from the shoulders inclusing the front feet all the way to half the ham.
I have no idea what I am going to do with all that but no worries I will figure it out and I am stuck I will be calling on you and the rest of the group.
Thanks again
HR
When in doubt:
Brine or cure
Rub
Smoke
Eat
repeat.
Quote from: FLBentRider on September 10, 2009, 09:23:13 AM
When in doubt:
Brine or cure
Rub
Smoke
Eat
repeat.
I like the way you think FLBR.
HR
Ok you convinced me, Ham it is. But I was really looking forward to a pork butt. Oh well that just leaves something else to look forward to. I am also going too smoke some old cheddar and 4 lbs of almonds. Man those almonds are good. Any suggestions on the cheese.
You can just about smoke all types of cheese (except probably cottage and Philadelphia). I have smoked white and sharp cheddar, Edam and Gouda and Swiss.
It is a bit tricky when it comes to smoking cheese as you should keep the temp under 70 F. It would help a great deal if you had a smoke box and filling a big ball with ice and place it in the smoker. Most members would tell you to start with 1.5 - 2 hours max and then adjust the time of smoke according to your taste. Apple Adler are great for that but some would go with hickory and Westexasmoker might even recommend mesquite.
The down side of smoking cheese is that you will have to wrap the cheese in plastic after smoking and keep it in the fridge for a couple of days to allow the smoke to permeate in the cheese. Oh an in case you notice some sweat on the cheese during the smoke, don't panic and just wipe it off.
Enjoy
HR
Ok my block of cheese is 3" by 2 1/2" by 5 1/2" would you cut this down in size or just smoke it longer. Also if I put a bowl of ice in the bottom of the smoker would this help to keep the temp down.
I generally cut my cheese to 1 1/2" thickness. You can leave it 5 1/2" long or cut that in half to increase the surface that is exposed to smoke.
The best way is to use the cold smoke setup, and make sure your heating element is unplugged.
Example of Cold Smoke Setup (http://www.johnwatkins.co.uk/personalpages/coldsmoking.htm)
Cold Smoking With the Digital (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showpost.php?p=774&postcount=17)
Bradley also sells a Cold Smoking Setup for around $100 (U.S.)
Quote from: Habanero Smoker on September 11, 2009, 01:27:41 AM
I generally cut my cheese to 1 1/2" thickness. You can leave it 5 1/2" long or cut that in half to increase the surface that is exposed to smoke.
The best way is to use the cold smoke setup, and make sure your heating element is unplugged.
Example of Cold Smoke Setup (http://www.johnwatkins.co.uk/personalpages/coldsmoking.htm)
Cold Smoking With the Digital (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showpost.php?p=774&postcount=17)
Bradley also sells a Cold Smoking Setup for around $100 (U.S.)
I a with Habs on this one and the cold smoke setup from Bradley is great.
HR
Quarlow,
After you smoke the cheese either wrap in plastic wrap or vac seal and don't open it for at least 10 days. Freshly smoked cheese straight out of the smoker tastes like licking a dirty ashtray. The smoke needs time to "ripen". The longer you can hold off, the better the cheese will taste but a minimum of 10 days is necessary.
KyNola
Ok, I will rig up a cold smoker box and give it a try. I know Bradley has one but I like to tinker, so I will use a cardboard box this weekend, but I will build a real nice one out of stainless and maybe even insulate it. Thanks Ky I will resist the temptation to sample it and aged it in the fridge for 2 weeks. You know everybody wants to sample as they go, But not with an ashtray haha.
I have some white cheddar that has been vac sealed for 6 months. Every time I open a package folks want to know where they can buy it.
It just gets better and better. Smoked gouda? OMG!!!!!
:) :) :)
KyNola
Yeah, I am thinking that if I am going to the trouble of building a cold box, I might as well put some other cheese's in and fill the thing.
Quote from: Quarlow on September 11, 2009, 04:44:57 PM
Ok, I will rig up a cold smoker box and give it a try. I know Bradley has one but I like to tinker, so I will use a cardboard box this weekend, but I will build a real nice one out of stainless and maybe even insulate it. Thanks Ky I will resist the temptation to sample it and aged it in the fridge for 2 weeks. You know everybody wants to sample as they go, But not with an ashtray haha.
I don't think I would insulate it because you want to let the heat dissipate before it gets into the smoker.
Quote from: HawkeyeSmokes on September 11, 2009, 07:09:48 PM
Quote from: Quarlow on September 11, 2009, 04:44:57 PM
Ok, I will rig up a cold smoker box and give it a try. I know Bradley has one but I like to tinker, so I will use a cardboard box this weekend, but I will build a real nice one out of stainless and maybe even insulate it. Thanks Ky I will resist the temptation to sample it and aged it in the fridge for 2 weeks. You know everybody wants to sample as they go, But not with an ashtray haha.
I don't think I would insulate it because you want to let the heat dissipate before it gets into the smoker.
TOUCHE
HR
Oh, I see what your saying, would there be any benefit to putting ice in this box or is that just too cold.
Haven't heard of anyone putting ice in the cold smoke box but they do use it in smoker chamber. Here's a link to a pic of Nepas doing it. http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/stlthy1/DSCF4360.jpg
And here's a link to a picture of a cold smoke box that pensrock made. http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/pensrock/bradley_setup029-1.jpg
thanks guys again my questions are answered