Cure #1 and Tender Quick The Same?

Started by Reboot, March 20, 2011, 01:50:31 PM

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Reboot

I was gonna try out that soy jerky recipe everyone here seems to like, and was curious if cure #1 and Morton's Tender Quick are the same thing.  I made a batch last weekend using the HM stuff and although it came out pretty good is was a bit too salty. 

The bag states the contents are salt, sugar, 0.5% Sodium Nitrate and 0.5% Sodium Nitrite

NePaSmoKer

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Quote from: Reboot on March 20, 2011, 01:50:31 PM
I was gonna try out that soy jerky recipe everyone here seems to like, and was curious if cure #1 and Morton's Tender Quick are the same thing.  I made a batch last weekend using the HM stuff and although it came out pretty good is was a bit too salty.  

The bag states the contents are salt, sugar, 0.5% Sodium Nitrate and 0.5% Sodium Nitrite

No they are not the same.

Cure #1 use 1 level tsp per every 5 lbs of meat, Whole or GB
MTQ 7.5 tsp for the same.

IMHO Cure #1 is a much better product.

muebe

So Nepas I have a question...If I do 5lbs of cubed stew meat for jerky nuggets in Teriyaki marinade can I mix the cure#1 with the marinade or do I apply it to the meat and let it sit for 24 hours before adding the marinade? I plan on smoking the nuggets in the Bradley and then into the dehydrator....sorry Reboot for the thread hi-jack
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Reboot

Thanks Nepas, glad I asked - where's a good place to score cure #1?  Do you use cure in that soy jerky recipe?

NePaSmoKer

Quote from: Reboot on March 20, 2011, 02:12:47 PM
Thanks Nepas, glad I asked - where's a good place to score cure #1?  Do you use cure in that soy jerky recipe?

YW

If your going to be smoking yes use cure in the soy marinade.

You can get cure at these links. Or if you have a Basspro or Gander mountain close by you can get cure there.

http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/1465

http://www.sausagemaker.com/11000instacureand153no11lb.aspx

http://www.lemproducts.com/product/169/seasonings_cure_spices

NePaSmoKer

Quote from: muebe on March 20, 2011, 02:05:19 PM
So Nepas I have a question...If I do 5lbs of cubed stew meat for jerky nuggets in Teriyaki marinade can I mix the cure#1 with the marinade or do I apply it to the meat and let it sit for 24 hours before adding the marinade? I plan on smoking the nuggets in the Bradley and then into the dehydrator....sorry Reboot for the thread hi-jack

I always mix the cure into the marinating liquid. Normally with one or two cups of water this way i know its dissolved. Add the cure water to the marinade. Really no need to sit 24 hours. Teriyaki has ginger in it and its a natural tenderizer.

I dont dry sprinkle, To easy to get clumps.

muebe

Natural Gas 4 burner stainless RED with auto-clean
2 TBEs(1 natural gas & 1 LP gas)
OBS(Auberins dual probe PID, 900w finned element & convection fan mods)
2011 Memphis Select Pellet Smoker
BBQ Grillware vertical smoker(oven thermostat installed & converted to natural gas)


Reboot

Quote from: NePaSmoKer on March 20, 2011, 02:56:29 PM
Quote from: muebe on March 20, 2011, 02:05:19 PM
So Nepas I have a question...If I do 5lbs of cubed stew meat for jerky nuggets in Teriyaki marinade can I mix the cure#1 with the marinade or do I apply it to the meat and let it sit for 24 hours before adding the marinade? I plan on smoking the nuggets in the Bradley and then into the dehydrator....sorry Reboot for the thread hi-jack

I always mix the cure into the marinating liquid. Normally with one or two cups of water this way i know its dissolved. Add the cure water to the marinade. Really no need to sit 24 hours. Teriyaki has ginger in it and its a natural tenderizer.

I dont dry sprinkle, To easy to get clumps.

Thanks for the links.  I was going to try the dehydrator this time since I'm waiting on a heating element  :'(

Habanero Smoker

Quote from: Reboot on March 20, 2011, 01:50:31 PM
I was gonna try out that soy jerky recipe everyone here seems to like, and was curious if cure #1 and Morton's Tender Quick are the same thing.  I made a batch last weekend using the HM stuff and although it came out pretty good is was a bit too salty. 

The bag states the contents are salt, sugar, 0.5% Sodium Nitrate and 0.5% Sodium Nitrite

Besides the amount used, Morton's TQ has added salt and sugar; so you need to adjust those ingredients if you exchange TQ for Cure #1. The following links give a description and comparison of most commonly used cures:

Curing Salts

Bradley Cures



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RFT

Quote from: NePaSmoKer on March 20, 2011, 02:51:18 PM
Quote from: Reboot on March 20, 2011, 02:12:47 PM
Thanks Nepas, glad I asked - where's a good place to score cure #1?  Do you use cure in that soy jerky recipe?

YW

If your going to be smoking yes use cure in the soy marinade.

You can get cure at these links. Or if you have a Basspro or Gander mountain close by you can get cure there.

http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/1465

http://www.sausagemaker.com/11000instacureand153no11lb.aspx

http://www.lemproducts.com/product/169/seasonings_cure_spices

So if I didn't use cure in the marinade what is the shelf life to be expected of the Jerky?

"Some world views are spacious and some are merely spaced."
N.P.

muebe

I just ordered Cure#1 from Amazon of all places. It is from The Sausage Maker and is the same price with shpping as their website. I already have an Amazon account so it made ordering easier.
Natural Gas 4 burner stainless RED with auto-clean
2 TBEs(1 natural gas & 1 LP gas)
OBS(Auberins dual probe PID, 900w finned element & convection fan mods)
2011 Memphis Select Pellet Smoker
BBQ Grillware vertical smoker(oven thermostat installed & converted to natural gas)

NePaSmoKer

Quote from: RFT on March 21, 2011, 06:22:47 AM
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on March 20, 2011, 02:51:18 PM
Quote from: Reboot on March 20, 2011, 02:12:47 PM
Thanks Nepas, glad I asked - where's a good place to score cure #1?  Do you use cure in that soy jerky recipe?

YW

If your going to be smoking yes use cure in the soy marinade.

You can get cure at these links. Or if you have a Basspro or Gander mountain close by you can get cure there.

http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/1465

http://www.sausagemaker.com/11000instacureand153no11lb.aspx

http://www.lemproducts.com/product/169/seasonings_cure_spices

So if I didn't use cure in the marinade what is the shelf life to be expected of the Jerky?



Lots of factors here. Like house temps, humidity.

If your lucky 3-4 days. But it prob will not last that long cuz you will eat it all  ;D

RFT

Sealing it and freezing it will it last a decent amount without cure?

I should of thought about this before I smoked the batch.
"Some world views are spacious and some are merely spaced."
N.P.

NePaSmoKer

Quote from: RFT on March 21, 2011, 04:43:40 PM
Sealing it and freezing it will it last a decent amount without cure?

I should of thought about this before I smoked the batch.

If your going to just dehydrate the jerky then you really dont need cure. Start the jerky on 150 and go to 160 if your dehydrator has those settings. Cool, vac seal and it will last around 4-6 months.