Topless Overnight Refrigeration Treatment?

ceeuawlsune · December 04, 2006, 09:30:24 PM

Does anybody have any experience with leaving things overnight, uncovered, in the refrigerator to create a "skin" that has a name I'm forgetting right now? Particularly for butt?

Can this be done simultaneously while the rub is being "applied" during those overnight hours or should it be rubbed, left overnight covered in the fridge, rinsed, towel dried, air-dried overnight (in fridge), re-rubbed and then smoked?

I've heard that fans and hair dryers are good fast alternatives, but fail to yield the same "skin" effect. Anyone? I'm looking for some love.

West Coast Kansan · December 04, 2006, 09:37:18 PM

You have a way of wording questions.

You may be mixing up curing process posted from salmon, and dry aging beef with pork butts.

I refer to any of ICERAT4 posts on slathering on butt rubs. Several other real good posts as well. In anycase, mine spend the night in the fridge with see through plastic wrapped tightly.

Gizmo · December 04, 2006, 09:49:34 PM

Was wondering how topless in a fridge was going to fit in. The "skin" I think you are referring to is called a pellicle and is more commenly referenced when brining and drying after a brine as in fish. Usually meats are rubbed and store covered in the fridge overnight. This allows the flavor to penetrate but you want to keep out any bacteria that may cause you to worship the porcelin gods later on. When to wrap tightly in plastic or losely in foil is still a mystery to me.

For me, I have usually used dry rubs with tight wrap plastic and wet marinades in plastic, stainless steel, or glass containers with covers. Brines and cures get washed off, rubs do not.

ceeuawlsune · December 04, 2006, 10:05:22 PM

Just curious as to whether anybody had any experience with hot smoking meats combined with this process of cold overnight air-drying.

I've never tried this method before, and I always protect my marinated/rubbed/brined/other meat with plastic.

manxman · December 05, 2006, 04:50:00 AM

QuoteI always protect my marinated/rubbed/brined/other meat with plastic.

I would always put the meat in some plastic wrap / bag, vacuum seal it or put it in a sealable box to protect it from being contaminated and stop the possibility of it cross contaminating other foods when putting it in the fridge.

If I need to put anything in the fridge uncovered (eg. trays of salmon for pellicle formation) I use my beer/wine fridge..... of course that means drinking the contents first but that is hardly a chore! ;D ;D ;D

That means there is no other food to contaminate it then I just give the fridge a wipe out afterwards.

iceman · December 06, 2006, 02:45:05 PM

Manx, we really do think alike! ;)

Chez Bubba · December 06, 2006, 06:47:18 PM

Quote from: ceeuawlsune on December 04, 2006, 09:30:24 PM
Topless Overnight Refrigeration Treatment?...........I'm looking for some love.

Well IMO, that ain't gonna make it happen, but I have never tried it personally.

Good luck & let us know the results! ;D ;D ;D

Kirk

iceman · December 06, 2006, 09:13:15 PM

Gotta agree with ya Chez :D ;)

manxman · December 07, 2006, 10:55:37 AM

QuoteManx, we really do think alike!

You bringing up that liver again Ice??!! ;D ;D ;D :-[

iceman · December 07, 2006, 12:05:23 PM

Quote from: manxman on December 07, 2006, 10:55:37 AM
QuoteManx, we really do think alike!

You bringing up that liver again Ice??!! ;D ;D ;D :-[

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHH :D ;D I did do liver and onions the other night after buying a bunch of different livers for Boudin sausage. Good Stuff!!!

manxman · December 07, 2006, 12:40:57 PM

QuoteI did do liver and onions the other night

Yes, I can eat liver again now without heaving, took a while though! ;)

QuoteI use my beer/wine fridge..... of course that means drinking the contents first but that is hardly a chore!

Now I guess this is what you were really referring to! :D ;)

owrstrich · December 07, 2006, 07:00:49 PM

i have had that topless overnight refrigeration treatment before...

it always cost a few hundred and must have been worth it because i cant remember a thing...

you gotta eat...

owrstrich

West Coast Kansan · December 07, 2006, 09:59:55 PM

wondered what happened, is it true the light goes out?

manxman · December 08, 2006, 11:35:42 AM

Quotei have had that topless overnight refrigeration treatment before...

it always cost a few hundred and must have been worth it because i cant remember a thing...

Next time we need you to try and remember a few details owrstritch, sounds interesting!! ;) :D

iceman · December 08, 2006, 12:53:40 PM

Quote from: West Coast Kansan on December 07, 2006, 09:59:55 PM
wondered what happened, is it true the light goes out?

I had way to much rum one night and crawled in the fridge to see if the light did go out. Well shoot I passed out and fell out on the floor with a head of lettuce in one hand. The boss lady didn't say much about it. She just stepped over me and mumbled something about some idiot that forgot the salad dressing. ::) :D I guess I'll never know. ??? ;D