temperature controller

nsxbill · September 08, 2005, 02:54:34 AM

The advantage of the P.I.D. is the ability to adjust the voltage to the application. (I think) The one I have is an Omega, and has a rating of 100-240 VAC to 132 to 240 VDC. (Remember it was used on Espresso Machine with a thermocouple and Solid State Relay. The PID's come in many configurations. Lasse has used, no doubt, the correct one. As long as you can vary input and output, the PID will adapt within the range and learn to control the temp with the voltage supplied. (That's my lay interpretation, anyway.)

Bill

There is room on earth for all God's creatures....on my plate next to the mashed potatoes.

Lasse · September 08, 2005, 05:31:07 AM

Hi,

I got my controller from Hong Kong but for you in USA I think that this link might be better:
http://stores.ebay.com/ColdfusionX-Electronics

I saw that they have different types and the one I use is the:
"Celsius 999C Digital PID Temperature Control controller" 220 Volt.

They are available in both 115 and 220 Volt and in Fahreheit or Celcius.
You need knowledge about electricity to install it.

The controller has an Alarm Out that can be connected to a wireless doorbell or something else. By this I mean that you connect the output to the sender unit of the doorbell and have the doorbell unit with you. Follow this link to a doorbell:
http://www.impexol.cn/2004/11-3/1559257530.html

/Lasse

Oldman · September 08, 2005, 07:30:14 AM

Given my history of smoking... learned how to feel the smoke to control the temp, and how to taste the smoke for cure, I guess I've just gotten lazy in my older age.

This unit has kind of caught my eye:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Universal-Digital-PID-Temperature-Control-Controller_W0QQitemZ7543861078QQcategoryZ50974QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

I'm sure it would not take me long to figure out how to set it up, but my problem is now time. Just too much work coming in.

Olds

Kamanodental · September 08, 2005, 07:57:47 AM

Aloha Lassie

How would you connect the door bell sender to the controller.? As you can see I am not too knowledgeble about electricity. Hope you dont mind the questions. I purchased the controller...not knowing with in the world Im doing...so I have to rely on the experts for advice. I have made more sawdust sausage...then a wood mill. I need to have something to help me with the temp settings...
Mahalo @ Aloha (thank you)
Kamano

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lasse
 Hi,

I got my controller from Hong Kong but for you in USA I think that this link might be better:
http://stores.ebay.com/ColdfusionX-Electronics

I saw that they have different types and the one I use is the:
"Celsius 999C Digital PID Temperature Control controller" 220 Volt.

They are available in both 115 and 220 Volt and in Fahreheit or Celcius.
You need knowledge about electricity to install it.

The controller has an Alarm Out that can be connected to a wireless doorbell or something else. By this I mean that you connect the output to the sender unit of the doorbell and have the doorbell unit with you. Follow this link to a doorbell:
http://www.impexol.cn/2004/11-3/1559257530.html

/Lasse
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Onipaa/Ku'oko'a
Steadfast Freedom

Kamanodental · September 08, 2005, 08:00:22 AM

Opps sorry...I mis-spelled your name...ya know us Hawaiians are poor spellers......lol..I flunked spelling in Dental School too...lol

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Kamanodental
 Aloha Lassie

How would you connect the door bell sender to the controller.? As you can see I am not too knowledgeble about electricity. Hope you dont mind the questions. I purchased the controller...not knowing with in the world Im doing...so I have to rely on the experts for advice. I have made more sawdust sausage...then a wood mill. I need to have something to help me with the temp settings...
Mahalo @ Aloha (thank you)
Kamano

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lasse
 Hi,

I got my controller from Hong Kong but for you in USA I think that this link might be better:
http://stores.ebay.com/ColdfusionX-Electronics

I saw that they have different types and the one I use is the:
"Celsius 999C Digital PID Temperature Control controller" 220 Volt.

They are available in both 115 and 220 Volt and in Fahreheit or Celcius.
You need knowledge about electricity to install it.

The controller has an Alarm Out that can be connected to a wireless doorbell or something else. By this I mean that you connect the output to the sender unit of the doorbell and have the doorbell unit with you. Follow this link to a doorbell:
http://www.impexol.cn/2004/11-3/1559257530.html

/Lasse
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Onipaa/Ku'oko'a
Steadfast Freedom
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Onipaa/Ku'oko'a
Steadfast Freedom

3rensho · September 08, 2005, 09:47:54 AM

Hi Lasse,

Can you please post the link to the site where you bought the controller in Hong Kong? Thanks

Tom

Smokin' in Switzerland

manxman · September 08, 2005, 09:58:33 AM

Hi Lasse,

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Can you please post the link to the site where you bought the controller in Hong Kong? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

3rensho took the words right out of my mouth!![;)]

Manxman.

Lasse · September 08, 2005, 12:41:40 PM

I have the link in my email at home. Will post later. It's still e-bay so the Coldfusion linked earlier has the same controller and he has shipped to UK before.
The controller that Old's linked to looks interesting too but it's a bit more pricy. Just a bit and it was not available at the time I looked for one.

With the controller inside a box it can be aken elsewhere and used in different other projects. Keeping the oil in the frying machine at the correct and accurate temp.[:D]

Kamanodental. Voff-voff. [:D] I even got a credit card with the name Lassie so you are not the only one mistaken.[:D] (And I'm not a female either)

I have not connected the alarm to anything myself so I don't know if the signal out is steady as long as the temp is above the temp set for the alarm or if the signal is pulsed. Yet to be investigated.
I have a wireless temp meter that I check the temp on so I haven't seen the need to investigate the alarm output, yet.

Hypothetic:
Let the alarm out trigger a relay. Either an on/off or a type that goes on for a second to "press the button" and then wait for 5-10 seconds before it "press the button" again as long as the output from the alarm is on.
It depends on how the output from the alarm is before you can decide how to use it.

Sorry I didn't had more info on the alarm thing.

/Lasse

Oldman · September 08, 2005, 02:55:45 PM

Lasse

On the unit I linked here which of the therocouples would you use?
Thanks
Raye

Olds

Kamanodental · September 08, 2005, 05:08:16 PM

Aloha Lasse

Is this schematic wiring the wiring of your plastic box controller.? Hmmmm that question does't sound correct.... in other words is this schematic a duplicate of the wiring in your controller box.?

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lasse
 Hi,

I saw that one picture was very unsharp but still usable.[:D]
3 pix, front, back and a quick sketch, power.jpg, that may be used by people that can make the right conclusions of the drawing.
http://smoker.americats.com/rex/

I connected the generator to one outlet and the control box to another outlet and from the control box to the smoke box.
Is this what you wanted?

/Lasse
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Onipaa/Ku'oko'a
Steadfast Freedom

Lasse · September 08, 2005, 05:25:38 PM

Hi,

The link to Hong Kong E-bay is:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7543565805&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BID
Don't overbid each other.

Old's: Follow the link above to see wich one I have.

Kamanodental: Mostly yes[:)] I might have taken the black to the relay out instead of the red. Leave the unit to a friend that can hook it up for you if you are unsure what to do.
I have all the wiring inside the box. I just connect from a wall outlet to the control-box and from the control-box to the smoker box.

Makes sense?

/Lasse

RJR1876 · September 09, 2005, 01:02:40 AM

Dear Smokers,

Please tell how to attach pic into the reply in here. Thanks.

Regards,
Tai

Oldman · September 09, 2005, 01:53:33 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RJR1876
 Dear Smokers,

Please tell how to attach pic into the reply in here. Thanks.

Regards,
Tai
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http://www.bradleysmoker.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1166

Olds

pick · September 10, 2005, 12:47:58 AM

I found this controller (Ranco Digital)on the web for ~$70.00. It looks like it would control the heater easily. The links I found were for greenhouse and aquarium heat/cool controlling.

http://www.automatedaquariums.com/ranco.htm

Norbert · September 10, 2005, 11:20:50 AM

Hi!

I have modified my smoker by adding an extra heating element and yes I was able to go over 200F with a boll of water inside. I used and old bread maker heating element, But the temps was very difficult to control so I found this controller.

http://www.mod-tronic.com/Love_Temperature_Controllers_TS.html

16 Amp with the probe and you can pick the color of the digit. $85.00 Canadian.
It will control the temperature to 300F or 150C.
I was aiming for 225F to 250F which gave me the best result before on my old smoker. It's also the temp that Paul Kirk does the briskets, ribs and Pork but.

This is the spec sheet.

http://www.mod-tronic.com/Love_Temperature_Controllers_TS.html

Can't wait to try it!

Keep on smoking!
[:p]